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[jlarson]

I've told you guys many times over the last few years that Flugar's BTM is a made believe character. Doesn't exist. All he does is read articles, reads message boards, etc, and comes up with his own dumb theories. Remember he used to pimp Cincy and UCONN as locks to the Big 12?

He and Dude of WV got in a heated battle a few years ago and when they "broke up" Flugar created this character called BTM to work around having people think his realignment tweets were his even though BTM is his own thoughts.

Houston donation numbers is public info. Easily found with Google and message boards.

I can even share Flugar's username on the Minnesota message boards if you all want to see who he is.

 

[CL82]

I've told you guys many times over the last few years that Flugar's BTM is a made believe character. Doesn't exist. All he does is read articles, reads message boards, etc, and comes up with his own dumb theories. Remember he used to pimp Cincy and UCONN as locks to the Big 12?

He and Dude of WV got in a heated battle a few years ago and when they "broke up" Flugar created this character called BTM to work around having people think his realignment tweets were his even though BTM is his own thoughts.

Houston donation numbers is public info. Easily found with Google and message boards.

I can even share Flugar's username on the Minnesota message boards if you all want to see who he is.

Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. From now on we should just stick all of his and the Dude's tweets in a single thread specifically labeled as not being key information.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
According to BTM this morning it looks like some forces in P5 & G5 are starting to gather together to attempt to push complete deregulation of how Conference decides it Champion.

Example: Conf can go with no divisions and teams will no longer have to play everyone in their Conf.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush @NebGradDubDub Because of this push for complete deregulation I will now pull back on my criticism toward Christopher’s belief WVU could end up ACC 2025. I now believe Christopher is correct that this is a possibility if this deregulation passes.

‏ @Expansion_Crush 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @flugempire @theDudeofWV @NebGradDubDub
Full number 15? ND as 16?

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
With this deregulation ACC would no longer need ND to join the conference if they want to add a 15th school.

ACC wanted deregulation in the past...now its being reported in public AAC wants deregulation..and we know BTM broke news 2 months ago Big Ten was looking at no divisions

‏ @Expansion_Crush 3h3 hours ago
3, 5 team pods seems a workable solution for scheduling purposes.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
It would...although I do believe it would be more of just 1 Conference/Div and have a couple of protective rivalries for each team. FSU & Miami will be protected..WVU/Pitt if WVU moved to ACC...Indiana/Purdue...Neb/OU..or Neb/Iowa..Wis/MN..UCF/USF...UVA/VA Tech...etc.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @flugempire @Expansion_Crush
Uh.... they already can.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 2h2 hours ago
No they can’t Christopher.

If you consolidate the 2 divisions into 2 Conference you need to play all the teams in your conference. Obviously any conference above 10 members this is impossible to do.

The rules do not allow at this time for Big Ten, SEC, ACC, AAC..etc to go 1 div

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 2h2 hours ago
I meant to say consolidate 2 divisions into 1 div/Conf.

Big Ten/SEC/ACC is not allowed at this moment to go into 1 div/Conf of 14 teams in Football. It’s not allowed under current rules of needing to play everyone Round Robin inside Div/Conf.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 56m56 minutes ago
Funny since the Big Ten was the conf against complete CCG deregulation in 2016. The votes are there for it as the SEC & ACC would love to be able to go to pods & correct competitive imbalances. I’m sure the Big 12 would go along too. But it might create more issues.

 

[Vowelguy]

why would the ACC want WV?

 

[CL82]

Why would any of that mean WVU to the ACC? WVU made clear its desire to join when it was in the Big East and the ACC took a hard pass.

 

[billybud]

The ACC should pick up Houston, not WVU...if it's about money.

Adding Texas footprint for the ACCN... footprint $$ X a bunch of TV households.

 

[CL82]

The ACC should pick up Houston, not WVU...if it's about money.

Adding Texas footprint for the ACCN... footprint $$ X a bunch of TV households.

Big mistake to leave your footprint. Not sure that anyone but Texas would be worth it.

 

[upstater]

why would the ACC want WV?

Especially since there is no need to balance divisions?

 

[billybud]

Big mistake to leave your footprint. Not sure that anyone but Texas would be worth it.

Big mistake to leave your footprint. Not sure that anyone but Texas would be worth it.

Already left it when BC was picked up years back...and then Cuse...

I guess they could add Cincinnati for the Ohio in-state fee add.

But I like Houston's energy, ambition, and possible growth potential.

WVU would be good for rivalry games with Pitt, VT...but really adds little draw for a network

 

[CL82]

Already left it when BC was picked up years back...and then Cuse...

I guess they could add Cincinnati for the Ohio in-state fee add.

But I like Houston's energy, ambition, and possible growth potential.

WVU would be good for rivalry games with Pitt, VT...but really adds little draw for a network

Pretty sure it goes by dma not by geography,

 

[bobbyinaz]

So last week he told us that he was having dinner w BTM. Today he says BTM told him this morning.

Could the BTM actually be the blow up doll he sleeps with?

 

[billybud]

Pretty sure it goes by dma not by geography,

The BTN and SECN get paid different subscriber amounts for "in market" and "out of market" subscribers. Big Ten states are considered "market" except for New York (NYC is "market" but not upstate). Maryland's footprint includes a small strip od Northern Virginia and DC.

The SECN has all of Texas in their defined footprint

Adding Houston over WVU would be a monetary plus.

In expanding its scholastic footprint, the Big Ten also increased the value of the BTN's New York and D.C. subscribers. According to SNL Kagan data, cable operators pay an estimated "in-market" rate of $1 per sub per month, more than double the $0.44 fees charged outside the conference's home markets.

 

[CL82]

The BTN and SECN get paid different subscriber amounts for "in market" and "out of market" subscribers. Big Ten states are considered "market" except for New York (NYC is "market" but not upstate). Maryland's footprint includes a small strip od Northern Virginia and DC.

The SECN has all of Texas in their defined footprint

Adding Houston over WVU would be a monetary plus.

In expanding its scholastic footprint, the Big Ten also increased the value of the BTN's New York and D.C. subscribers. According to SNL Kagan data, cable operators pay an estimated "in-market" rate of $1 per sub per month, more than double the $0.44 fees charged outside the conference's home markets.

Yep, so DMA, right? Cinci would draw the Cinci DMA not all of Ohio. That's why Rutgers got the Big 10 the NYC DMA not just NJ.

 

[Guapo]

None of Houston, Cincy or WVU will ever be in the ACC.

Houston and Cincy will never be “Power 5” schools

 

[CL82]

None of Houston, Cincy or WVU will ever be in the ACC.

Houston and Cincy will never be “Power 5” schools

He knows that he's just trolling.

 

[billybud]

Yep, so DMA, right? Cinci would draw the Cinci DMA not all of Ohio. That's why Rutgers got the Big 10 the NYC DMA not just NJ.

All of Texas is SEC "in market"....All of Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina....

 

[CL82]

All of Texas is SEC "in market"....All of Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina....

That's not my understanding of how it works. Here's a link to the DMA's.

 

[baggerbob]

why would the ACC want WV?

From an athletic standpoint, football, basketball, footprint they fit. Any Academic idea went out the window. Which school was put on probation by the accreditation body for academic problems, Louisville, West Virginia, or North Carolina?. We all know who and that ends any resemblance of the ACC being concerned about academics.

 

[Vowelguy]

From an athletic standpoint, football, basketball, footprint they fit. Any Academic idea went out the window. Which school was put on probation by the accreditation body for academic problems, Louisville, West Virginia, or North Carolina?. We all know who and that ends any resemblance of the ACC being concerned about academics.

Who said anything about academics? What does WV add in terms of revenue to justify everyone getting a smaller piece of pie?
They are of decent quality so they add _some_ value in terms of improved matchups. But they bring almost nothing in terms of TV as their 'best' markets Pittsburgh (Pitt) and DC (UVa) are already covered.

 

[billybud]

That's not my understanding of how it works. Here's a link to the DMA's.

SEC Network landed its biggest fish Friday, announcing a long-term carriage deal with the country's biggest distributor. Comcast will carry the channel at its Aug. 14 launch on its expanded basic tier within SEC territory and digital basic outside of it. Sources say the channel's rate card is at $1.40 per subscriber per month within the SEC's 11-state footprint and $0.25 per month outside of it. (FOXSPORTS.com, 7/17).

 

[billybud]

Note..."within 11 state footprint"....

 

[Slasher]

WVU is not desirable at all to the ACC or anyone really. Tiny state with very low aging population that is actually decreasing:

https://blog.stewart.com/stewart/2018/12/21/u-s-state-population-changes-2017-to-2018/

They were ranked #51 out of 51 in population growth. Most city DMAs are bigger than the entire state population of West Virginia. The only plus for them is geography, but as everyone knows that's pretty much out the window in conference realignment. They're fine in the Big 12 because they don't have a network.

 

[SU1968]

I don't think the ACC will expand until ND decides to go all in as #15. #16 will be whoever ND wants.

 

[billybud]

That's common "board think"...

But I think it will be who the President's agree on...with the guidance of their media partner.

 

[JeepCSC]

That's common "board think"...

But I think it will be who the President's agree on...with the guidance of their media partner.

That’s correct. You are just leaving off the part where the Presidents and media partner agreements will be made with two eyes on the Irish to give a nod of approval.