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Your case is weak. Aresco lost schools to P5 so he’s a failure? Aresco failed to lure P5 schools to the AAC, so he’s a failure?
That's what I called strawman arguments. I they are generally considered disingenuous since you are creating arguments to shoot down. I never talked about the failure to quote lure P5s did I?

Now, I did talk about the fact that every single school in the conference wanted to leave the conference every single minute they were a member. Do you know any other organization that can make that claim?

Aresco failed miserably as president of the conference. And it seems like the only argument anyone can make in his favor is "well, I doubt anyone else would've done better." Faint praise, indeed.
 
OK are the low value TV contracts and indictment against him? How about the fact that he gave away Connecticut tier 3 rights is that an indictment? How about the fact that he sold off the conferences are you single most valuable property, the Big East name? How about the fact that he sold conference USA's playbook and essentially re-created conference USA? Are any of those indictments?
The Big East name was not a positive for football, just hoops. And not allowing UConn to profit from its women BB rights for non-national games was simply using the asset for the benefit of the whole conference, and not us specifically. We would have all screamed bloody murder if Aresco allowed Rutgers, say, in the beginning, to profit from the sale of its wrestling rights to a local station when we weren’t allowed to do that.
 
The Big East name was not a positive for football, just hoops. And not allowing UConn to profit from its women BB rights for non-national games was simply using the asset for the benefit of the whole conference, and not us specifically. We would have all screamed bloody murder if Aresco allowed Rutgers, say, in the beginning, to profit from the sale of its wrestling rights to a local station when we weren’t allowed to do that.
The Big East name was a positive for football when compared to the American brand. The Big East name gives credibility in the eyes of casual fans that don’t pay close attention to conference realignment. At least people have heard of the Big East.

That said, I often visit with a former FSU football player at my local sports bar. He’s 68 years old. When he asked me what conference UConn was in these days and I told him Indy football and the Big East for basketball he said, “The Big East still exists? I had no idea”. That shows you what football guys think about non P5 conferences.
 
The Big East name was not a positive for football, just hoops. And not allowing UConn to profit from its women BB rights for non-national games was simply using the asset for the benefit of the whole conference, and not us specifically. We would have all screamed bloody murder if Aresco allowed Rutgers, say, in the beginning, to profit from the sale of its wrestling rights to a local station when we weren’t allowed to do that.
Disagree. The Big East name gave us a recognized brand. It was just a brand that was inconsistent with Aresco's "conference USA" style plan. Once that name was lost to the C7 the conference redefined itself as a G5 start up conference. It was a "new coke" level move.

You are absolutely correct that the movement of what had been individually held T3 rights from Connecticut to ESPN was a move that was intended to benefit the entire conference at Connecticut's expense. It directly precipitated our move out of the conference. Aresco never seemed to value Connecticut, probably because our name was linked to the big east conference in the us inconsistent with his conference USA style plan. Yet, no school in the American generated more national championships in Connecticut did while it was there. He should have promoted us and looked after our interests. He did just the opposite.

Your Rutgers analogy is based on a false premise that ownership of T3 rights applies to one school only. I don't see us complaining at all with T3 rights being preserved for every institution. If Rutgers benefited from that, all the better for them, it wouldn't impact us negatively one way or the other. (Your low-key insult of UConn women's basketball brand by equating it with Rutgers wrestling is duly noted.)

I'll also point out that Aresco didn't appear to get any material benefit from the release of our T3 rights. He got a deal that was barely better, on a net basis, than the big East's media deal that did not include football. Hardly a show of competency.

Essentially Aresco's entire career at the helm of the big east was taking whatever scraps ESPN decided to throw his way, expanding the conference questionably, giving up the conferences brand value and pretending to have a seat at the big boy table, a claim that was universally mocked.

But, but, but… no one else could've done any better say his supporters. No one claims that he did a good job, just that anyone else would have done as bad a job. In my world that's failure.
 
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BREAKING: The #Pac12 "will NOT have a media deal" before their annual "media days", according to a P12 school athletic administrator. Not 100% sure I'm the first to report this, so if someone else had it first, my apologies.
 
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BREAKING: The #Pac12 "will NOT have a media deal" before their annual "media days", according to a P12 school athletic administrator. Not 100% sure I'm the first to report this, so if someone else had it first, my apologies.

Then UConn is cooked. It is amazing how many posters are celebrating the Pac12’s demise when it would be the final nail in UConn’s P5 coffin. It is like this board is rooting for UConn to fail.
 
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#Buffs administration has finally had enough. Expect news to break in the next few days. #Big12

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Arizona and Colorado have both spoken to Yormark this week.
 
Then UConn is cooked. It is amazing how many posters are celebrating the Pac12’s demise when it would be the final nail in UConn’s P5 coffin. It is like this board is rooting for UConn to fail.
Wrong. If any PAC schools leave for the Big 12, UConn will be involved. Yormark has a hard on for UConn. Plus Kansas wants UConn.
 
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Then UConn is cooked. It is amazing how many posters are celebrating the Pac12’s demise when it would be the final nail in UConn’s P5 coffin. It is like this board is rooting for UConn to fail.
You could be right and you could be wrong. We get it. We were always a long shot regardless of what happens and regardless of what our true value is. The horse you keep beating passed away three weeks ago.
 
Wrong. If any PAC schools leave for the Big 12, UConn will be involved. Yormark has a hard on for UConn. Plus Kansas wants UConn.

This position is completely devoid of logic. There will be a PAC 12 stampede for the exit if these reports are true. UConn will not make the cut.
 
Seeing more and more about Yormark valuing the northeast market. It makes perfect sense if you want top dollar long term. If Mora has UConn playing good football, UConn’s value will immediately increase exponentially. That would be a real coup for the B12.

Also, remember Yormark’s background. He’s seen the power of New York first hand running Barclay’s Center and the associated businesses. He’s now visiting B12 cities and he’s probably thinking, “Man, we need the Northeast. We’ve got a bunch of small and or redundant markets”.
 
Arizona and Colorado will be the first 2. If 2 more, maybe UConn gets in as a 4th. They could stop at
2, and wait for acc to fall apart.
 
This position is completely devoid of logic. There will be a PAC 12 stampede for the exit if these reports are true. UConn will not make the cut.
From many accounts/suppositions, there are a handful of PAC schools that don't want much of anything to do with the Big12: Cal, Stanford, Utah, ASU, WA, and OR. That's 6 of the 10 right there.
 
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Seeing more and more about Yormark valuing the northeast market. It makes perfect sense if you want top dollar long term. If Mora has UConn playing good football, UConn’s value will immediately increase exponentially. That would be a real coup for the B12.

Also, remember Yormark’s background. He’s seen the power of New York first hand running Barclay’s Center and the associated businesses. He’s now visiting B12 cities and he’s probably thinking, “Man, we need the Northeast. We’ve got a bunch of small and or redundant markets”.

Then why hasn’t the Big 12 invited UConn if they value us so much? Could they be waiting to see if something better is available?
 
Man I remember Aresco pretty much giving us a big ephu when we left. I guess he's used to it now.

In any event Aresco should be remembered as the man who took a seven-figure paycheck and ran the conference into the ground. Some will say no one could've done better and while that may or may not be true it's hard to imagine someone doing significantly worse.

He gave away the best branding asset he had, the Big East name, and blue the dust off of the old CUSA game plan and rammed with it. It should've been no surprise that what he ended up with was a replication of CUSA. Leaving that conference was one of the best things conference realignment moves we have made.
I have 2 words for you: John Marrinato
 
Then why hasn’t the Big 12 invited UConn if they value us so much? Could they be waiting to see if something better is available?
Yes. but they could also want to make a final decision and announce new additions at once. It would seem disorganized and unprofessional to add schools one at a time over the course of a 6 month period. It looks far stronger to announce your new schools together and then claim you got exactly the ones you wanted all along.
 
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Then why hasn’t the Big 12 invited UConn if they value us so much? Could they be waiting to see if something better is available?
nothing is moving until the Pac12 media deal is resolved. it stinks, but that's the deal.
once that is resolved everyone essentially is showing their cards.

I can't see any school making a decision without all the facts, and that includes the Pac 12 media deal...
 
Yes. but they could also want to make a final decision and announce new additions at once. It would seem disorganized and unprofessional to add schools one at a time over the course of a 6 month period. It looks far stronger to announce your new schools together and then claim you got exactly the ones you wanted all along.
Agreed - almost always in pairs or fours.
 
They don't need to take 4 PAC 12 schools with BYU already out there. They could easily get away with Colorado, Arizona and then take your pick. We would be the "natural" fourth. West pod of 4, east pod of 4, and then you have two pods of 4 in the middle for football "natural" rivalries.
 
This position is completely devoid of logic. There will be a PAC 12 stampede for the exit if these reports are true. UConn will not make the cut.
Yeah, this makes total sense...as long as you can show us the PAC team that gives Yormark the NE/NYC presence he's obviously seeking. Which you can't...so actually, no, your post doesn't make sense.

Here's the thing about the schools in the current PAC...they really aren't that valuable. If they were they'd be getting at least the same media deal the Big 12 got. They're not getting this deal because west coast teams simply don't command the same eyeballs as comparable midwest and east coast teams. Adding PAC schools would certainly feel good to Big 12 twitter folks because they can puff their chests out about poaching another power conference. And while the perception that brings could be something Yormark might value, he doesn't need to grab all of the PAC teams looking to leave in order to achieve this perception. One PAC school will be enough for that...

UConn was a power conference team a decade ago. Had UConn moved out of the Big East along with or instead of any of BC, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Rutgers, or Louisville, UConn would have bever been considered a G5 team. Being in the American and now current Big East for a decade created that perception. But a smart executive like Yormark isn't going to let that perception dictate his decisions. He's not going to rank Colorado, Zona, ASU, Cal, Stanford, Utah, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington, and WSU ahead of UConn just because UConn spent some time in the G5. UConn profiles like a power conference school, and you can make the argument UConn is a better add than any of the current PAC schools. In fact, a number of those PAC schools - even the ones that may be rumored to the B1G - might find themselves in an eventual G5-ish merger with the mountain west. This is what happened to UConn...who's to say it can't happen to Washington?
 
Then why hasn’t the Big 12 invited UConn if they value us so much? Could they be waiting to see if something better is available?
When has a conference expanded with one school??
 
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When has a conference expanded with one school??


The ACC added Louisville on 11/28/2012 after Maryland left.

The Big East expanded to nine football teams on 11/29/2010 when they added TCU.

There is nothing stopping the B12 from inviting UConn tomorrow, it would be a show of confidence and strength, while the PAC 12 continues to publicly piss on their own leg.
 
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