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That was what I was wondering. I'm old but want what is best for UConn and from what I can see the Big 12 is a step up in all sports. But I'm just a fan so what do I really know.
 
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CoastAtlantic said:
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BREAKING: Is Yormark going coast to coast in one fell swoop with the #Big12 and grabbing both #UConn and #SDSU before taking #Buffs and #BearDown? That's what some are predicting this morning.

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#Pac12 teams are noe fully aware their share is $19.5M each before the Comcast and Holiday Bowl lawsuit reimbursals. To add more mouths to feed dilutes the payout even further, so with additions of #SDSU and #SMU, the P12 annual payout will be roughly one-third of the #Big12.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
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#Pac12 teams are noe fully aware their share is $19.5M each before the Comcast and Holiday Bowl lawsuit reimbursals. To add more mouths to feed dilutes the payout even further, so with additions of #SDSU and #SMU, the P12 annual payout will be roughly one-third of the #Big12.
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Amazing that Internet Realignment Guy knows this and the Pac 12 has not budged yet.
 


Seem to back up what was previously said here ..... . Apparently, in the comments, a few people are backing it up. Long story short there are academics on the board who don't want to leave the PAC12 and downgrade to BIG12 regardless of the money and the longer this can gets kicked the closer to the July budget deadline they get. From what I've heard not sure if its true the academic money they get from PAC12 and research far out weighs any sports TV contracts.
 
Forte said:


Seem to back up what was previously said here ..... . Apparently, in the comments, a few people are backing it up. Long story short there are academics on the board who don't want to leave the PAC12 and downgrade to BIG12 regardless of the money and the longer this can gets kicked the closer to the July budget deadline they get. From what I've heard not sure if its true the academic money they get from PAC12 and research far out weighs any sports TV contracts.
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I think as of now Colorado will stay. As long as the league gets a TV deal before the July 21st media days, the Buffs will stick around.
 
shizzle787 said:
I think as of now Colorado will stay. As long as the league gets a TV deal before the July 21st media days, the Buffs will stick around.
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I’m just amazed that a media deal is taking this long. Yipes.
 
NEforceUConn said:
I’m just amazed that a media deal is taking this long. Yipes.
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The Pac-12 messed up. They are a more valuable property than the Big 12 even with the time zone disadvantage on a fair playing field. However, with the Big 12 getting a deal first, and the TV monies now shrinking, the league is in a hard spot. As much as I would like UConn to join a P5 league, I do think it is very important that we keep five major conferences in football and six major conferences in basketball. It is better for college sports to not be as concentrated as professional sports.
 
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shizzle787 said:
The Pac-12 messed up. They are a more valuable property than the Big 12 even with the time zone disadvantage on a fair playing field. However, with the Big 12 getting a deal first, and the TV monies now shrinking, the league is in a hard spot. As much as I would like UConn to join a P5 league, I do think it is very important that we keep five major conferences in football and six major conferences in basketball. It is better for college sports to not be as concentrated as professional sports.
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We don't need to martyr ourselves to try to save college sports.
 
Forte said:


Seem to back up what was previously said here ..... . Apparently, in the comments, a few people are backing it up. Long story short there are academics on the board who don't want to leave the PAC12 and downgrade to BIG12 regardless of the money and the longer this can gets kicked the closer to the July budget deadline they get. From what I've heard not sure if its true the academic money they get from PAC12 and research far out weighs any sports TV contracts.
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On the surface the research funding totals are hundreds of millions and the athletics revenues are tens of millions. But it is far more complex than that as the connection between research funding and an athletic affiliation is unclear. Personally I would be surprised if there was any connection at all. But if there is, that may be one of the dirty little secrets out there, the elephant in the room that no one talks about. I am skeptical. I suspect we are talking about institutional image.
 
There is little to no connection between athletic conference and research funding. Faculty collaborates with anyone and everyone that will help them get more research funding. Look at all these nomad schools that improving greatly in research:

USF
Cincinnati
UAB
Houston

etc.

Those teams have been changing conference non-stop and it hasn't hurt their research funding at all.
 
Slasher said:
There is little to no connection between athletic conference and research funding. Faculty collaborates with anyone and everyone that will help them get more research funding. Look at all these nomad schools that improving greatly in research:

USF
Cincinnati
UAB
Houston

etc.

Those teams have been changing conference non-stop and it hasn't hurt their research funding at all.
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Agreed.
 
shizzle787 said:
The Pac-12 messed up. They are a more valuable property than the Big 12 even with the time zone disadvantage on a fair playing field.
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I disagree. The numbers say the Big 12 is a more valuable media property than the Pac 12. Look at the conference football and basketball championships:

Football:
Big 12: Kansas State vs TCU 9.41 million viewers
Pac 12: Utah vs USC 5.97 million viewers

Basketball:
Big 12: Kansas vs Texas Tech 2.48 million
Pac 12: Arizona vs UCLA. 1.30 million

The Big 12, with schools that are remaining in the Big 12, crushed the Pac 12 TV conference championship ratings which included their top football brand (USC) and top basketball brand (UCLA) that are leaving the Pac 12.
 
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jostar1 said:
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This is why UConn needs to get into the B12. B12 gets it, and Brett Yormark is a forward thinking making genius with his plans. In order to build a true coast to coast conference, you can't not be involved in the East Coast.

B12 has some time until 2031 (next TV deal) to establish itself as the true national number 1 basketball conference, which is why they need to get UConn now to set the flag in the area. By then, B12 should be ready to pick off teams they want from the ACC once FSU and Clemson leave the conference.
 
RSTuthill said:
On the surface the research funding totals are hundreds of millions and the athletics revenues are tens of millions. But it is far more complex than that as the connection between research funding and an athletic affiliation is unclear. Personally I would be surprised if there was any connection at all. But if there is, that may be one of the dirty little secrets out there, the elephant in the room that no one talks about. I am skeptical. I suspect we are talking about institutional image.
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The PAC just lost 2 of their top research institutions.

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Billion-dollar business: These are higher ed's top 30 R&D performers

Innovation is alive and well on campus as research and development on campus see increasing investment by college and university leaders.
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metsfan2323 said:
You might be right, but nobody thinks of Cincinatti or Morgantown as being on the east coast.

and these teams do not capture the NYC market that Yormark covets.
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Bingo. The Big12 isn't getting any east coast attention without us. That's a huge market left unserved. UCF doesn't intrigue anyone outside of alums and a few people in Orlando and Cincy is a great, midwestern program. WVU has some pull in the east, largely because they get a nice handful of students from NJ, CT, MD and PA, but it isn't an east coast school and it certainly isn't pulling in much interest in NYC, Hartford, Providence and Boston.

UConn offers the opportunity for the B12 to accomplish a few things:

1. Get on the east coast's radar in football and basketball.

2. Provide another fairly nearby partner for UCF and WVU.

3. Allow the B12 to strengthen the basketball they covet by adding a blueblood and accessing the deep pool of talent in the Northeast prep system.

4. UConn gives the B12 a similar reach in the Northeast to the ACC and B10 in one easy move, yet they get to do it with the biggest brand in the Northeast after Penn State. Rutgers, Cuse and BC aren't even close to competing with us on a national stage at this point. UConn is one Jim Mora away from dominating major sports in the Northeast.
 
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