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Isn't Miami's two decades of suck one reason for the "disappointing contract"? That's chutzpah.

Mayhe sucky for Miami...but they won 10 games in 2017 and have had four other seasons in the last ten that were 8 wins or better.
 
Mayhe sucky for Miami...but they won 10 games in 2017 and have had four other seasons in the last ten that were 8 wins or better.
also 10 of the last 16 with 7 or fewer wins. Not quite Ivy League now is it. Looks like University of Illinois!

If the ACC wanted to add a school for basketball, soccer, baseball it would be Uconn not WVU. But that's not gonna happen. The next thing that will happen is that a football only conference will form with all the big boys. The other sports will remain in their regional conferences. Sort of like Hockey East.
It would be great if that were the next thing to happen. If only the power mongers cared about the student athletes and the fans.
 
If Miami left the conference (not going to happen, but we're playing what ifs), their only option is the Big 12. I think the ACC would take Cincinnati over WVU every day of the week. But would they even go?
 
I think the ACC would take Cincinnati over WVU every day of the week. But would they even go?

Yes they would. They'd much rather associate their basketball program with the ACC schools & Notre Dame and the money in the ACC will be better than the remodeled Big XII
 
Yes they would. They'd much rather associate their basketball program with the ACC schools & Notre Dame and the money in the ACC will be better than the remodeled Big XII
I'm not sure either of those statements are true. I do think culturally they fit better in the ACC. But the basketball is better in the Big 12, and financially it'll likely be close to a wash (assuming the ACC didn't get a renegotiation.)
 
If Miami left the conference (not going to happen, but we're playing what ifs), their only option is the Big 12. I think the ACC would take Cincinnati over WVU every day of the week. But would they even go?
You think so? WVU was a much bigger football name, state flagship. ACC already has Louisville which hasn't turned out great. I think Cincy would go to just because of location but it would eventually get sucked down the black hole like all the other additions.
 
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You think so? WVU was a much bigger football name, state flagship. ACC already has Louisville which hasn't turned out great. I think Cincy would go to just because of location but it would eventually get sucked down the black hole like all the other additions.
WVU is one of the smallest growing states, with a poorer than average populace and no major markets. The closest thing they have to a decent market is Pittsburgh which is already clearly in the fold with Pitt. The entire state of WVA has a smaller population than metro Cincinnati. Their academics are also worse (if that actually matters.) Plus Cincy helps connect the pieces of the ACC between Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Louisville. Plus there's no close major airport which makes travel crappy and believe it or not, that's a factor.
 
WVU is one of the smallest growing states, with a poorer than average populace and no major markets. The closest thing they have to a decent market is Pittsburgh which is already clearly in the fold with Pitt. The entire state of WVA has a smaller population than metro Cincinnati. Their academics are also worse (if that actually matters.) Plus Cincy helps connect the pieces of the ACC between Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Louisville. Plus there's no close major airport which makes travel crappy and believe it or not, that's a factor.
WVU is still a better football program, which is what the ACC needs. What exactly does Boise have going for it, and yet that football program does well every year. I'd take Pitt vs WVU over Cincy vs L-ville. Besides, everyone knows Ohio is the buckeye state.
 
WVU is still a better football program, which is what the ACC needs. What exactly does Boise have going for it, and yet that football program does well every year. I'd take Pitt vs WVU over Cincy vs L-ville. Besides, everyone knows Ohio is the buckeye state.
Strange timing calling WVU a better football program when Cincinnati is in the playoff and 152-61 since 2006 including 4 Big East championships and 3 AAC championships. WVU has 3 Big East championships and 0 Big 12 championships during that time with a 131-70 record during that time. They had a great run under RickRod but not much before or after.
 
Strange timing calling WVU a better football program when Cincinnati is in the playoff and 152-61 since 2006 including 4 Big East championships and 3 AAC championships. WVU has 3 Big East championships and 0 Big 12 championships during that time with a 131-70 record during that time. They had a great run under RickRod but not much before or after.
You are equating the AAC with the Big 12 now. Cincinnati must be better than Texas too I suppose. I guess you are right if you exclude the '90s.

And to think the ACC took every program from Miami to BCU before considering the mighty cincy.
 
You are equating the AAC with the Big 12 now. Cincinnati must be better than Texas too I suppose. I guess you are right if you exclude the '90s.

And to think the ACC took every program from Miami to BCU before considering the mighty cincy.
I just don't think if you ask 50 people on the street who has a better football program today, that more than a handful of people would say WVU is the better football program. You speak of the 90s, WVU went 65-49 in the 90s. Not exactly world beaters (Cincy was abysmal in the 90s to be fair.)
 
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But,,,WVU has 19 National Championships in Rifle...LOL

Of course, if it isn't football or basketball, it doesn't count.
 
For instance...we all know that Clemson football is down some this year having won only 9 games...I'll bet few on the board knew that they won the NC in Men's Soccer.

Few really care or follow other than their team in...soccer, field hockey, volleyball, etc.

Cincinnati is in the CCP Four and everyone knows about Cincinnati...if they were in the Final Four of the CWS, some might know, final four of Women's Volleyball...few would know.
 
I just don't think if you ask 50 people on the street who has a better football program today, that more than a handful of people would say WVU is the better football program. You speak of the 90s, WVU went 65-49 in the 90s. Not exactly world beaters (Cincy was abysmal in the 90s to be fair.)
I would agree. Wvu football program has really sunk back into mediocrity, and likely may be hunting for a new coach sooner rather than later. Ad extended Brown's contract which looks like a very bad move, but Brown has shown little to think he can make a turnaround.
 
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I find actually seeing these guys talk to be a little disappointing.

In any event our interim president should immediately call the Big Ten and our interest in joining. Apparently, the Big Ten would have no choice but to invite us in order to keep us out of the hands of the SEC.
 
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I feel like there are a solid dozen people that would by a shirt that says “I know the BTM”.
There only way that guy exists and is in the same position at the Big Ten Commissioners office is if he empties the waste baskets and mops the floors.
 
"I had dinner at a restaurant this weekend with BM. It was not a pretty sight."
 
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV · 10h
You don't have to be an insider or have any connections to know the Pac 12 is in trouble. The issues the conference has are on full display. It's a dangerous time for the Pac 12. They are up first for renegotiating their TV contract.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV · 10h
You don't have to be an insider or have any connections to know the Pac 12 is in trouble. The issues the conference has are on full display. It's a dangerous time for the Pac 12. They are up first for renegotiating their TV contract.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV · 9h
Just for giggles, a thought experiment. If you are the Big 12 and the B1G would add USC if they could also add Kansas... do you let Kansas go knowing you can replace the Jayhawks with better football programs from the Pac 12?


Good gawd! How delusional are these Big 12 fans? Any PAC program would give their left nut to join the B1G before entertaining anywhere else.
 
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