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[DarthGrumpy]

I completely agree. While I want you all to have a great home, MSG isn’t going to be the deciding factor.

I agree. Was just noting that MSG's new Big E opt-out in 2022 is right around when the current P5 confernece TV contratcs begin to expire. MSG will not be a deciding factor; but, could be a data point, especially if the ACC survives the P5 consolidation into the P4.

 

[Dooley]

Yeah, agree. Where a conference basketball tournament is played won't be enough of a driving force to create a CR ripple. The only things that could create more CR within the next 5 years are 1) paying players; 2) Notre Dame.

 

[djct1999]

Let’s say the SEC goes out and has too much to drink and decides to make a bad decision and corner South Carolina.

They call Clemson and invite them to join (clearly UCONN is 16 for NYC).

Is Clemson tired of going to the playoff every year? Are they going to build a more ridiculous football facility? They want to spend years in court fighting their GOR which goes until like 2033?

Checks out.

I was kidding. It was a bad attempt to make fun of how bad ACC football is becoming, outside of Clemson.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Greg Flugaur@flugempire 19h19 hours ago

BTM just now. “Look for Oklahoma to have a new 3rd Tier deal done with an RSN owned by FOX by end of 2019. Length of deal will be relatively short term.”

 

[ScottBonz]

Stick this thread directly into my veins baby.

 

[Vowelguy]

The round of conference realignment that ends the ACC? The round caused by the sun swallowing the Earth?

If the SEC ever got UNC (w Duke), that might destabilize the conference. But the Heels have too much of a good deal in the ACC that I can't ever imagine them wanting to leave.

 

[billybud]

The GOR runs through 2036....who knows what the landscape will look like 17 years in the future?

 

[BlueHen]

Go back to sleep.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

If the SEC ever got UNC (w Duke), that might destabilize the conference. But the Heels have too much of a good deal in the ACC that I can't ever imagine them wanting to leave.

The worst case scenario for the ACC, I think, if if there is another round of conference realignment, is for the B1G and SEC to gang-up on the ACC with UVA, UNC, and Duke going to the B1G and V Tech and NC State going to the SEC. The Academics within UVA, UNC and Duke would love this. UNC Alumni, less so.

 

[JeepCSC]

UNC would never go SEC, and I can’t see how they’d allow State to go SEC. They’ll go down with the good ship. UVA is likely tied to UNC as well, and the value of Duke without UNC is questionable. The low-hanging fruit that could cause an earthquake are Georgia Tech, Clemson, and Florida State, which is probably a bridge too far for the B10 and a bridge too close for the SEC.

 

[Irishfan]

UNC would never go SEC, and I can’t see how they’d allow State to go SEC. They’ll go down with the good ship. UVA is likely tied to UNC as well, and the value of Duke without UNC is questionable. The low-hanging fruit that could cause an earthquake are Georgia Tech, Clemson, and Florida State, which is probably a bridge too far for the B10 and a bridge too close for the SEC.

Georgia would fight letting Georgia Tech back in, S. Carolina would fight Clemson and Florida would fight Florida State. Would be an interesting battle. People forget that Georgia Tech was in the SEC until 1964. They thought being an independent was the way to go. (And they hated Alabama).

 

[Vowelguy]

Fun to speculate, but

I fail to see why ND goes to the ACC. Because IF there's a 1-loss Irish team it MIGHT not get in the playoff? That's a bunch of low probability events to give up a century of independence. And how would being the ACC help? This year, not being in the ACC gives them a shot at the playoffs. If they were in the ACC, they'd lose to Clemson in the conf title game and not even make the CFP.

And how exactly does the BiG work with 6 west coast schools? There's no way that NE,IA,MN,WI would stand for being in a FB division with the Pac schools.

 

[Vowelguy]

Also if the PAC loses schools to a conference that is largely 7 filler schools + TX, OKL, KANS, their commish will go down as worst all time, supplanting Mike Tranghese.

 

[Exit 4]

Prediction - nothing conference related changes. Evergreen post for a long time. Expansion of playoffs however is possible because it just wouldn’t take much effort.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
With the very real possibility of 3 of the 5 power conferences being left out, presidents are regretting this bill of goods they’ve been sold.

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
A 1-loss ND being left out would also be a catalyst that could cause the Irish to join the ACC in all sports.

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
There were cracks showing over 2 years ago. Two schools reached out to the B12(Arizona and Arizona State) at the 11th hour of B12 expanding.

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
B12 was about to invite BYU and Cincinnati despite pressure from ESPN to not expand. The brief talks with the two P12 schools were a revelation that in the near future the B12 would have better options for expansion.

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
Arizona and Arizona State will be leaving to join the B12. It’s not even a matter of if now-just when. Talks have been ongoing for a long time. This will return the B12 to its namesake and with the larger tv markets added will be lucrative for the networks as well.


Robbie Jay‏ @Robbiejay84 Nov 15
Which teams would the Big10 Target? USC, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Washington? Those seem to be the ones that fit the profile best

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
Replying to @Robbiejay84
Add UCLA to that list and you’d have the prize.

MH ver3‏ @MH ver3 Nov 15
Replying to @realtimwebb
I’d imagine if Utah, Washington State, and Oregon State are left holding the Pac12 name they could form a new conference with MW schools and BYU.

The only item that makes sense here is if somehow an UNDEFEATED ND team is left out of the 2019 college playoffs. That may cause problems for everyone.

Outside of that, the P5 won't consolidate to 3 conferences. Too many states schools left out that will lead to angry politicians and a lot of court traffic. For example, politicians will not allow Washington and Oregon to 'abandon' Washington St. and Oregon St. to a lesser confernce, especially on the academic side. Also, half of Arizona's population is from California and a big chunk of their recruits and alumni live in SoCal. I can't see Arizona and Arizona St. cutting their ties to that critical market.

 

[Waquoit]

Time to put this entire board on Ignore.

 

[Rappin'Rodney]

Fun to speculate, but...

And how exactly does the BiG work with 6 west coast schools?

I would argue the only way the B1G "works" with the Pac-12 is to carve-up the Big-XII. Consider the following facts:

1) Pac-12 Network launches in 2012

2) August 9, 2018 GlobalNOC (a proxy for the B1G) releases its Networks Annual Report 2017 detailing that the Pac-12 called-in GlobalNOC to knock down the Pac-12 Network to bare studs & totally rebuild it from the ground up.

3) The new Pac-12 streams (1,000+) now all pass through a control room on Indiana's campus

4) The "new" network (indistinguishable from the old network to viewers), which launched sometime in 2017, now has 16 networked sites as opposed to the original 12 networked sites, which begs the question: "Where are these new sites located and/or possibly which universities do these new sites represent?"

 

[Stinger92860]

Prediction - nothing conference related changes. Evergreen post for a long time. Expansion of playoffs however is possible because it just wouldn’t take much effort.

And there is more money in an expanded playoff

 

[Ha Who]

The moonshine is flowing this morning

 

[billybud]

Amazon bids for 22 RSN's...including YES

Amazon bids for Disney's 22 regional sports networks, including YES Network, sources say

 

[SubbaBub]

AltDude is looking at it backwards. A 1-loss ND may crowd out 2 P5 champions.

 

[billybud]

AltDude is looking at it backwards. A 1-loss ND may crowd out 2 P5 champions.

Notre Dame only needs to beat USC to be 12-0 and complete their run of the table...

Alabama and Clemson, the other undefeateds, have two more games....if the SEC Champ and ACC champ finish 13-0, they are in.

The question then becomes whether a 12-1 Big Ten or Big 12 Champ will roll 12-0 Notre Dame out of the play off.

If Clemson loses one of the remaining two games, the ACC could be out...but I don't see Clemson losing.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Notre Dame only needs to beat USC to be 12-0 and complete their run of the table...

Alabama and Clemson, the other undefeateds, have two more games....if the SEC Champ and ACC champ finish 13-0, they are in.

The question then becomes whether a 12-1 Big Ten or Big 12 Champ will roll 12-0 Notre Dame out of the play off.

If Clemson loses one of the remaining two games, the ACC could be out...but I don't see Clemson losing.

I think the worst case scenario for the Playoff Committee is if Georgia upsets Alabama in the SEC title game while ND, Clemson and Michigan win their remaining games. Under this scenario, undefeated and ACC champ Clemson is in. The committee has proven in the past it will not say no to a 1-loss Alabama team that does not even wins its conference championship and will not say no to a 1-loss SEC conference champion in Georgia that beat 'Bama. Now, if Michigan wins The Game over Ohio St and then the B1G championship against Northwestern, I think that will give them enough 'points' to vault ND, even with their head-to-head win loss to ND in week 1, into the playoffs.

UCF is not even in this conversation regardless of their SOS and any other factor because the entire system is designed to lock-out any non P5 team from the championship game, i.e. money. Oklahoma, which will have issues with West Virginia or Texas in the XII title game, and Washington St, are both out even if they win their conference championships as they have not done enough and do not have a marquee win or two against the top 10.

Oklahoma XII champion locked-out of the playoff will send the XII into a panic while and undefeated ND being locked-out will cause an all-out war.

 

[Dooley]

I think the worst case scenario for the Playoff Committee is if Georgia upsets Alabama in the SEC title game while ND, Clemson and Michigan win their remaining games. Under this scenario, undefeasted and ACC champ Clemson is in. The committee has proven it will no say no to a 1-loss Alabama team that does not even wins its conference championship and will not say no to a 1-loss SEC conference champion in Georgia. Now, if Michigan wins The Game over Ohio St and then the B1G championship against Northwestern, I think that will give them enough 'points' to vault ND, even with their head-to-head win loss to ND in week 1, into the playoffs.

UCF is not even in this conversation regardless of their SOS and any other factor because the entire system is designed to lock-out any non P5 team from the championship game, i.e. money. Oklahoma, which will have issues with West Virginia or Texas in the XII title game, and Washington St, are both out even if they win their conference championships as they have not done enough and do not have a marquee win or two against the top 10.

Oklahoma XII champion locked-out of the playoff will send the XII into a panic while and undefeated ND being locked-out will cause an all-out war.

You have given me another something to root for. Georgia beating Alabama like you said would absolutely cause chaos and provoke whiny Notre Dame to whine some more.

UCF will never get in and that's why this Playoff system is an absolute sham.

 

[billybud]

You have given me another something to root for. Georgia beating Alabama like you said would absolutely cause chaos and provoke whiny Notre Dame to whine some more.

UCF will never get in and that's why this Playoff system is an absolute sham.

UCF needs to play a top 30 team....they have not done so...