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06029 said:
If you are in a league, you play at your opponents HOME stadium no matter its size. End of story. I am sure that TX and OU will get their full allotment of few thousand away fan tickets just like they do for every other away game. Stadium size is just a BS argument because they never get more than a sliver of tickets for away games. Based on how Uconn handled the MI game, I can see the major conference visitors getting more tickets at the Rent than at any other conference venue. Moving to a "major" stadium would only encourage a gate split with the visititng team and actually kill any home advantage that Uconn might have.

There is no worse venue for a visiting team than BC as there is no parking for visiting fans (certainly no RV lots), high costs for hotels and for getting to the game. Somehow, BC manages to keep all of their home games in a small stadium versus the blue bloods of FB including PSU, ND, FSU, Clemson, USC, etc. Uconn should expect the same.
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Pretty sure UT plays a few early home games at AT&T....
 
Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 29m29 minutes ago
Frank the Tank Retweeted Chuck Carlton
Five industry sources weigh in on top candidates to join Big 12; ESPN and Fox not thrilled with expansion talks | SportsDay

Must read on Big 12 expansion. Lots of info on how expansion talks are proceeding, who is involved and UT/OU stances

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 22m22 minutes ago
A few things stands out from this report: (1) Texas politician support for Houston has definitely mattered...

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 18m18 minutes ago
(2) BYU has support but still questions. Astute commenters on my blog mentioned sexual assault policy & LGBTQ stance

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 16m16 minutes ago
(3) Cincinnati also has good support, although there's not-too-veiled suggestion that WVU doesn't want them...

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 16m16 minutes ago
(4) We should still expect Big 12 expansion regardless of TV partner stances. Question is whether it's 2 or 4.

Aron Buch‏@AB670
@frankthetank111 Do you see UConn in if they go 4? Can't see going 2 now that Texas pushing Houston

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 7m7 minutes ago
IMHO only: Houston & Cincinnati are in good shape, BYU in decent shape, UConn and Memphis compete for last spot.

Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 7m7 minutes ago
Granted, I wouldn't put it past Big 12 at all to expand just with Houston and Cincinnati and stop there.
 
Expand with Houston and Cincy only? Now how is that not going to piss off the tv folks? Talk about a plan to kill your tv partners today and set you up for disappointment in 2025 on that next tv deal.
 
Summary
It may be easy to poke fun at it or spin a little humor in the words and phrases used in Big 12 expansion talk, but looking at it straight, there's a lot to digest and understand along the way.



CFAA‏@CFAAEliteClips
Dick Harmon: Big 12 terminology that's surfaced among expansion discussions


Dick Harmon: Big 12 terminology that's surfaced among expansion discussions
 
jostar1 said:
Summary
It may be easy to poke fun at it or spin a little humor in the words and phrases used in Big 12 expansion talk, but looking at it straight, there's a lot to digest and understand along the way.



CFAA‏@CFAAEliteClips
Dick Harmon: Big 12 terminology that's surfaced among expansion discussions


Dick Harmon: Big 12 terminology that's surfaced among expansion discussions
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Clearly Dick Harmon is a fan and avid reader of the Boneyard. You are welcome Mr Harmon!
 
Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 20m20 minutes ago
IMHO only: Houston & Cincinnati are in good shape, BYU in decent shape, UConn and Memphis compete for last spot.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 18m18 minutes ago
@frankthetank111
If decisions are made per conclusionary data it's UCONN over Memphis
Market size
Owning of Market
$ in Market
Brand size

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12m12 minutes ago
The same motivating factor which led Boren to unmask the pro-rata clause in TV tier 1 & 2 contract in 2015...leads him today...
 
Like I said last night, I'm starting to believe this is all a huge bluff by the Big 12 to get an extra payout without expanding.

But if this is real, and everyone seems to say it's between us and Memphis for #4, then Herbst and Benedict better be campaigning their asses off behind the scenes. Literally all they have to do is beat whatever ridiculous FedEx deal Memphis claims to have. If it's about money, find the money. I don't care if you have to go ask for a loan from Jim Calhoun. Find the cash.
 
I can't see how expanding by 2 would ever include Univ. of Houston. It does not make any sense as adding Houston is a leach to the other Big 12 members. Univ of Houston would weaken all Big 12 schools recruiting advantage in Houston Area as well as would not help the Big 12 Media Footprint. Its academics would look below the other Big 12 schools too. What is the gain for adding Univ of Houston? You would have 5 TX schools in Big 12 giving to much power to them as a collective group and give more power to Univ of Texas since they got them in. As they say TCU will vote with Univ of Texas as they help get them into the Big 12 too. The Texas Power Block that would happen would not be good for the non-Texas base schools. The only logical sense of adding Univ of Houston would be from the TX political play on blocking votes for other schools, but that can only be justified when adding 4 schools.
 
Slasher said:
I think you mean ESPN. Fox doesn't want any part of Houston. They want eastern timezone content.
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Right, what I meant was "Hard to see how Houston gets in, Fox will throw an absolute fit."

This is a fascinating crossroads for the B12. B12 leadership is all getting an education on tv markets and the realities of big media - much more than they probably ever anticipated learning. The only amicable deal for a 4 team expansion is UConn/Cincy/UCF or USF and BYU. Thats the most $$ for tv and that is what really matters.

And if can't get along with BYU, then you swap BYU for Temple/Memphis or another FL school. Its about markets.
 
I read somewhere on LT's CR 12 board that 2 teams are already wrapped up...and dying to announce but can't announce yet....i thought it was BYU and Cinncy....I heard Tuberville left the HC's roundtable at AAC's media days after being told and just left? Hermann stayed and another rumor was the next 2 if their are 2 more won't be on board until ''18''....just a few tweet/rumors I picked up....no way should Memphis be able to buy their way in!!! That would leave UH,UConn and Memphis fighting for 2 spots if the rumor had any validity!?!
 
Dooley said:
I am sure that Big 12 people are looking into whether or not UConn can really deliver the volume. Can we get XX cents a month from the NYC DMA? If we can, we are in and it's not close. No other candidate comes remotely close to bringing New York plus Connecticut sized population numbers.

Here is what we know about market share in the northeast:

1. UConn, without question, owns the Hartford/New Haven market. #30 DMA in the country is bigger than #34 Cincinnati...and there is no question that UC is #2 in their own home market. The same can be said about every single other AAC candidate. Memphis doesn't own Memphis. Houston doesn't own Houston. UCF/Orlando. USF/Tampa. ECU/yeah...I'm just joking. I *think* BYU's "home market is Salt Lake City...I would say they own that but I really don't know how much Utah/Utah St/BYU battles fall into line. So, really, there is one school that can 100% guarantee its home market
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If you add in Fairfield County, which is in the NYC DMA, Connecticut would rank 20/21. That's an important and profitable DMA.
 
Uconn will get into the B12. Its School Presidents that vote on these things. Memphis is a crappy academic school, and Uconn is a good school. The B12 School Presidents fancy themselves as people in the hinterlands that want to be in the same room with academics in the desired northeast education market. It makes them feel good. Univ. Memphis doesn't do that for them. So if these B12 School President's can be shown they can make a buck AND be in a room with academics from back east, they'll sign on to it, imo. So keep the faith. I think Uconn gets their P5 Conference. I wish it was the ACC, but that seems out of the question for you guys. So the B12 might be a heckava long travel league for all the Uconn teams, but it hands down beats the AAC which prpbably will be no more in a few years. I'm taking a break now off this board for a bit ( most of you guys are pleased with that ). Good Luck this season, and look forward to extending our hospitality to you all in November for the BC- Uconn game !
 
Exit 4 said:
Expand with Houston and Cincy only? Now how is that not going to piss off the tv folks? Talk about a plan to kill your tv partners today and set you up for disappointment in 2025 on that next tv deal.
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The talk is that the compromise position of only expanding by two instead of four will be a way to resolve the dispute with the TV providers over the pro rata issue and their objections. It will piss off the TV networks (especially ESPN) less than forcing them to pay for four schools.

I think that either way the conference is dead in 2025 because Texas is and will refuse to extend the GOR, no matter what.
 
jostar1 said:
Frank the Tank ‏@frankthetank111 · 20m20 minutes ago
IMHO only: Houston & Cincinnati are in good shape, BYU in decent shape, UConn and Memphis compete for last spot.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 18m18 minutes ago
@frankthetank111
If decisions are made per conclusionary data it's UCONN over Memphis
Market size
Owning of Market
$ in Market
Brand size

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 12m12 minutes ago
The same motivating factor which led Boren to unmask the pro-rata clause in TV tier 1 & 2 contract in 2015...leads him today...
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If the decision is based on that data we should be number 1 among all available teams.
 
Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 11m11 minutes ago
https://floridastate com/news/acc-network-contract-look-ins-provide-comfort-to-fsu-s-thrasher
3 look-ins in ACC/ESPN agreement. FSU has their protection.


Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 10m10 minutes ago
… Just add another log to Boren's raging fire to push ESPN's back up against wall.


Can't post link to Rivals Warchant.

ACC Network contract 'look-ins' provide comfort to FSU's Thrasher
In an exclusive interview Wednesday with Warchant.com, Thrasher explained that the ACC’s new contract with ESPN calls for three separate “look-in” periods -- times when executives from both entities will be able to sit down and discuss whether the contract terms needs to be renegotiated. The first of those previously unreported “look-ins” will occur in 2021, just two years after the new ACC Network is scheduled to launch on cable and satellite television.

“So there are going to be three opportunities during the course of the contract to take a look at it,” Thrasher told Warchant.com. “To take a step back and see how it’s doing: Do there need to be adjustments? Things like that. ESPN agreed to that. The ACC agreed to it. So the first one will be in 2021. So we’ll have about 2½ years of experience, and we’ll see where we are.

“If we have to make some adjustments, we’ll make some adjustments.”

If the college football landscape does change, or if the new network has any issues with distribution, Thrasher said he takes comfort in having the “look-in” periods as part of the contract.
 
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UConn is already on an island in the AAC. If they get a Big XII invite, they just swap Norman for Tulsa, Austin for Dallas, Ames for Memphis and it's not much longer to get to Waco or Lubbock than to Tampa. At the end of the day, it is still a plane ride.
 
jostar1 said:
Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 11m11 minutes ago
https://floridastate com/news/acc-network-contract-look-ins-provide-comfort-to-fsu-s-thrasher
3 look-ins in ACC/ESPN agreement. FSU has their protection.


Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 10m10 minutes ago
… Just add another log to Boren's raging fire to push ESPN's back up against wall.


Can't post link to Rivals Warchant.

ACC Network contract 'look-ins' provide comfort to FSU's Thrasher
In an exclusive interview Wednesday with Warchant.com, Thrasher explained that the ACC’s new contract with ESPN calls for three separate “look-in” periods -- times when executives from both entities will be able to sit down and discuss whether the contract terms needs to be renegotiated. The first of those previously unreported “look-ins” will occur in 2021, just two years after the new ACC Network is scheduled to launch on cable and satellite television.

“So there are going to be three opportunities during the course of the contract to take a look at it,” Thrasher told Warchant.com. “To take a step back and see how it’s doing: Do there need to be adjustments? Things like that. ESPN agreed to that. The ACC agreed to it. So the first one will be in 2021. So we’ll have about 2½ years of experience, and we’ll see where we are.

“If we have to make some adjustments, we’ll make some adjustments.”
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But do look-ins provide for a parachute from the GOR? I would think not, only that certain economics of the tv deal maybe adjusted.
 
Briuconn said:
I can't see how expanding by 2 would ever include Univ. of Houston. It does not make any sense as adding Houston is a leach to the other Big 12 members. Univ of Houston would weaken all Big 12 schools recruiting advantage in Houston Area as well as would not help the Big 12 Media Footprint. Its academics would look below the other Big 12 schools too. What is the gain for adding Univ of Houston? You would have 5 TX schools in Big 12 giving to much power to them as a collective group and give more power to Univ of Texas since they got them in. As they say TCU will vote with Univ of Texas as they help get them into the Big 12 too. The Texas Power Block that would happen would not be good for the non-Texas base schools. The only logical sense of adding Univ of Houston would be from the TX political play on blocking votes for other schools, but that can only be justified when adding 4 schools.
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Houston to the Big 12 makes absolutely no sense, outside of geography and politics. Zero athletic profile, marginal academics, redundant TV and recruiting market. Memphis is even worse. If either of those schools make it to a P5 and uconn is left out, my only conclusion is someone probably put a voodoo curse on us. It's insane.
 
TerryD said:
The talk is that the compromise position of only expanding by two instead of four will be a way to resolve the dispute with the TV providers over the pro rata issue and their objections. It will piss off the TV networks (especially ESPN) less than forcing them to pay for four schools.

I think that either way the conference is dead in 2025 because Texas is and will refuse to extend the GOR, no matter what.
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This would seem to be the viable solution BUT if the Texas schools force Houston in, then you have to really question how they can just do 2.

BY THE WAY: This is post 19,999 for me. I'm not making post 20,000 until UConn is in the damn B12. And, for the record, I've had 10,000 posts apparently in the last 2 1/2 years, because I remember for sure that post 10,000 was made on the night of April 7, 2014, after I held off posting a few days so that my 10k coincided with UConn's 4th championship. This plus my evil eye bracelet will assure good things happening.
 
Yawkey Way said:
Uconn will get into the B12. Its School Presidents that vote on these things. Memphis is a crappy academic school, and Uconn is a good school. The B12 School Presidents fancy themselves as people in the hinterlands that want to be in the same room with academics in the desired northeast education market. It makes them feel good. Univ. Memphis doesn't do that for them. So if these B12 School President's can be shown they can make a buck AND be in a room with academics from back east, they'll sign on to it, imo. So keep the faith. I think Uconn gets their P5 Conference. I wish it was the ACC, but that seems out of the question for you guys. So the B12 might be a heckava long travel league for all the Uconn teams, but it hands down beats the AAC which prpbably will be no more in a few years. I'm taking a break now off this board for a bit ( most of you guys are pleased with that ). Good Luck this season, and look forward to extending our hospitality to you all in November for the BC- Uconn game !
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Ok, who hacked Yawkeys account?
 
Over on CSNBBS, a Memphis fan posted:

RockyMTNTiger Wrote: Its a done deal. A UM fan just posted the following coded message: The hay is in the barn....Repeat....The hay is in the barn.

A coded reply was posted - then quickly deleted which cannot be revealed at this time.

BYU/UH/UM/UC

No further information is available at this time; however, the following link was posted with something about "for our friends at UCONN".


 

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