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Yes, and can't predict the future, but what if ND joins ACC and they need a partner and suddenly UCF or Temple get the nod and then we are back in the ACC in 8-10 years anyway after UT, OU and KU bail in 2025

That would suk too

Waquoit said:
If the choice is between death plunge in 10 years or death plunge in 2 years, I choose 10.
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JSM1970 said:
Yes, and can't predict the future, but what if ND joins ACC and they need a partner and suddenly UCF or Temple get the nod and then we are back in the ACC in 8-10 years anyway after UT, OU and KU bail in 2025

That would suk too
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"Hmmmm, I'm not sure if I should sleep with this beautiful woman. What if Jennifer Lawrence comes along and I'm stuck dating this 9?"
 
jostar1 said:
Scott MacHaggis ‏@ScottMacHaggis · 6h6 hours ago
@flugempire Sounds like even the Dude is giving up on the B12. He just tweeted that "Things have fallen apart, B12 wont survive after 2025"

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@ScottMacHaggis
B12 won't be the same in 2025...reshuffle.
Will lose at least 2 of its most valuable Insitutions in 2025
Dude waking up

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@ScottMacHaggis
Dude was the very last person to figure it out.
Very last person.
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where do you get these ?i go to both flugempire and scottmachaggis,and do not see these posts,unless they are old news,and not recent posts.
 
It's not a 9 if UT, OU and KU bail is the issue though

I agree, still grab the first offer and hope for the best

Irish Loop said:
"Hmmmm, I'm not sure if I should sleep with this beautiful woman. What if Jennifer Lawrence comes along and I'm stuck dating this 9?"
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Jimdish255 said:
Did we ever find out what scared away NBC or other potential bidders from making a decent offer? Or is that just another deal that we may never know.
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It was never worth it for another network to make a market deal with the matching rights held by ESPN. NBC either had to overpay hoping that ESPN declined and be stuck with a league of unknown value to put on a network (NBCSports) of unknown drawing power; or try to get it cheap with enough riders that ESPN would let it go. The AAC had nothing to really offer NBC. In hindsight the requirement to stay off ESPN 3, was the best outcome, though a few more dollars would have been nice.

NBCsports did pretty well with English soccer.
 
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WestHartHusk said:
You think?! YOU THINK? How in the world can you spend this much time on the BY and even have that thought cross your mind? Genuinely puzzled by some people on here.
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Relax Dude. For a moment I was contemplating aloud a world where more than TX and OU find a home in 2025. I'm fine with TX and OU leaving, but if WV and KS found homes too and AAC manages to rope in CSU and Boise, than that would kinda of suck as the B12 wouldn't be too far ahead of the AAC.

My mind penciled out a worst case 2026 B12:
ISU
KSst
Okst
Baylor
TCU
TT
Cincy
BYU
UConn
UH or UCF

WV to SEC
OU to SEC
UT to B1G
KS to B1G

2026 AAC:
Temple
Navy
ECU
USF
UCF or UH
Tulane
SMU
Memphis
Tulsa
Boise <--added in 2017 <--this probably would never happen given the olympic sports
CSU <--added in 2017 --this probably would never happen given the olympic sports
Umass/School X <--added in 2017
 
whaler11 said:
NBC is notoriously cheap when bidding on sports.

They don't have any home for all the games the American would play anyway. They have one cable net that has soccer and hockey in a big number of the windows where college sports would plug in.

They don't really have capacity for the volume even if they wanted it.
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I disagree - they bid a ton of money on the Premier League and then got the extension from it. They have the capacity to show 10 games at once across their networks(they do it the last game of each season when they all start at the same time) and they have overflow stations Sports Extra that they put games on.

NBC low balled an unproven league and then ESPN had the right to match the price, but also had to match the terms of the agreement.
 
hardcorehusky said:
I disagree - they bid a ton of money on the Premier League and then got the extension from it. They have the capacity to show 10 games at once across their networks(they do it the last game of each season when they all start at the same time) and they have overflow stations Sports Extra that they put games on.

NBC low balled an unproven league and then ESPN had the right to match the price, but also had to match the terms of the agreement.
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Look for NBC Universal/Comcast to figure out the digital process so in 10 years they'll be ready. Not sure why NBC doesn't take advantage on their channels, i.e., MSNBC, CNBC, USA Network, Bravo, etc. for college football.

For Comcast people, keep an eye on the Olympics. Looks like it'll be pretty high tech with X1.
 
hardcorehusky said:
I disagree - they bid a ton of money on the Premier League and then got the extension from it. They have the capacity to show 10 games at once across their networks(they do it the last game of each season when they all start at the same time) and they have overflow stations Sports Extra that they put games on.

NBC low balled an unproven league and then ESPN had the right to match the price, but also had to match the terms of the agreement.
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You disagree that NBC is known for being cheap when acquiring sports rights? Ok I guess you can invent a different perception than the industry has had for at least a decade.

They do have extra time. The difference between the EPL and AAC on extra time is for the AAC they would have to produce the game themselves which is very different than the EPL. And oh yeah the AAC would actually want some of their games to be on things that people watch.

Can you even imagine going to recruit a kid and trying to explain it's better that your games are on NBC's extra time app - if someone happens to have a log in.
 
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Anybody know this @Andy_Staples guy from SI and XM? I am not familiar with him, but he has a bunch of tweets that talk about the compromise of adding 2 teams as opposed to 4 as a likely scenario. There are several tweets and I will leave it to others to post some of his tweets if you see fit. (This guy is not good at posting tweets) Would like some opinions about this guy.
 
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whaler11 said:
You disagree that NBC is known for being cheap when acquiring sports rights? Ok I guess you can invent a different perception than the industry has had for at least a decade.

They do have extra time. The difference between the EPL and AAC on extra time is for the AAC they would have to produce the game themselves which is very different than the EPL. And oh yeah the AAC would actually want some of their games to be on things that people watch.

Can you even imagine going to recruit a kid and trying to explain it's better that your games are on NBC's extra time app - if someone happens to have a log in.
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I've watched EPL Extra Time games on my phone. It will be a thing but, you are correct that producing the game versus simulcasting someone else's feed is huge difference. Maybe the AAC should be producing their own games with local resources? I am assuming that the camera and equipment are cost prohibitive. Remembering the Rent can't produce a decent TV timeout, says, "Nevermind..."
 
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CardiffGiant said:
Anybody know this @Andy_Staples guy from SI and XM? I am not familiar with him, but he has a bunch of tweets that talk about the compromise of adding 2 teams as opposed to 4 as a likely scenario. There are several tweets and I will leave it to others to post some of his tweets if you see fit. (This guy is not good at posting tweets) Would like some opinions about this guy.
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I know nothing about him...but last of talk on his twitter.

And here is is latest column. Warning you know, he reads like Whaler11.
Why ESPN and Fox don't want to pay for any planned Big 12 expansion


Andy StaplesVerified account‏@Andy_Staples
Andy Staples Retweeted Del Abramson

Sheer population matters when selling subscriptions to X people for X cents a month. This is about owning your town.
 
I've worked in television for almost 30 years. To produce a game at Rentschler is not very difficult. You don't even need to have the announcers there. Just a small truck and enough fiber lines. The right switchers and graphics and it can be produced very inexpensively.
 
whalerfan said:
I've worked in television for almost 30 years. To produce a game at Rentschler is not very difficult. You don't even need to have the announcers there. Just a small truck and enough fiber lines. The right switchers and graphics and it can be produced very inexpensively.
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Channel 3 produced & broadcast the very first game from the Rent vs IU.
 
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whalerfan said:
I've worked in television for almost 30 years. To produce a game at Rentschler is not very difficult. You don't even need to have the announcers there. Just a small truck and enough fiber lines. The right switchers and graphics and it can be produced very inexpensively.
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I'd never worry about production, it's distribution and server space that's the issue.
 
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Exit 4 said:
I know nothing about him...but last of talk on his twitter.

And here is is latest column. Warning you know, he reads like Whaler11.
Why ESPN and Fox don't want to pay for any planned Big 12 expansion


Andy StaplesVerified account‏@Andy_Staples
Andy Staples Retweeted Del Abramson

Sheer population matters when selling subscriptions to X people for X cents a month. This is about owning your town.
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You mean he wrote an article summarizing every point I made over the past 3 weeks? Good now you guys can go argue with him on Twitter.
 
whaler11 said:
You disagree that NBC is known for being cheap when acquiring sports rights? Ok I guess you can invent a different perception than the industry has had for at least a decade.

They do have extra time. The difference between the EPL and AAC on extra time is for the AAC they would have to produce the game themselves which is very different than the EPL. And oh yeah the AAC would actually want some of their games to be on things that people watch.

Can you even imagine going to recruit a kid and trying to explain it's better that your games are on NBC's extra time app - if someone happens to have a log in.
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they weren't cheap when they blew ESPN and FOX out of the soccer waters. But back then, the AAC was a new league and they weren't going to throw money at it. If they did have it, games would not be on extra time( which I get as part of my FRONTIER cable package), but would be on NBC, then NBSCSports network, then USA network, etc. Extra time would never need to come up because scheduling around Notre Dame would be easy with 6 or 7 (Ivy League) games on a Saturday. (and not all would be on national tv anyway.)
 
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Yesterday I was feeling very good about an invite. Today it seems like a complete 180.

I said a few days ago I thought this would end with 2 schools being added, neither of which would be UConn. I'm back to that, and starting to lean toward no expansion at all.

Consider what we actually know (it ain't much):

  • This all came up very suddenly after a lot of established media people had expansion dead and buried.
  • The Big 12 has always had this clause in their contract and it never prompted them to expand before. And they've always been very partial to their 10 team round robin format. And they can have a championship game now, without adding anyone.
  • The "favorites" according to various writers have changed almost daily, with the exception of BYU and Cincy which were everyone's predetermined leaders before any of this even started, so that could just be momentum.
  • ESPN and Fox are against expansion altogether. What's more, the Big 12 doesn't seem to particularly love any of the available candidates.
  • There has been almost no legitimate information leaking anywhere regarding contact from the Big 12 to the candidate schools, yet we hear that they want this done in time for football season. Then yesterday we randomly find out UConn got a call to set up a meeting to "gauge their interest".
  • Texas and OU must realize that the ACC network is a big risk for ESPN, and it's probably the last TV based network that will be created. Texas doesn't need a network, and OU probably realizes they can punch their ticket wherever they want in less than a decade, despite what some posters around here say about their value. They're OU.

This sure seems like a bluff. The Big 12 didn't start these evaluations weeks ago, they started at least months ago. Why go public that they're opening up expansion talks? I think it's to get some free money.

Why doesn't anyone seem to know anything? Are they really doing that well at sealing off leaks? Or is there just nothing to leak?
 
CallMeBruce said:
Worth noting that there are conflicting reports about how FOX feels about expansion.
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Do you have a link that shows Fox isn't anti-expansion? Or something more positive than less negative about expansion than ESPN?
 
whaler11 said:
Do you have a link that shows Fox isn't anti-expansion? Or something more positive than less negative about expansion than ESPN?
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Five industry sources weigh in on top candidates to join Big 12; ESPN and Fox not thrilled with expansion talks | SportsDay

News about the Big 12 using the pro rata clause as a bargaining chip surfaced in early June, and even the conference was engaged in discussions with Fox and ESPN through its consultants. In other words, none of this is a surprise and the networks' public displeasure probably represents a lot of posturing. Multiple sources indicated that Fox actually may be more open to expansion since it would increase game inventory.
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