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Well, no name of the actual source was shared so it might be difficult to trace back to the original source of information but it's better it's not in the public eye if negotiation is still taking place. Better to let it happen than start having it put up all over the internet and have decision makers rethink decisions.
 
Saw this on a byu board some guy was at the Dallas Marriott and saw a big 12 meeting in the schedule. Could be trolling but he went in and got an agenda after.

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Exit 4 said:
Gulp. Is he really that out of touch too? We need to put Diaco on a muzzle until the Maine game when I expect to be in the B12 with no turning back. Plus, now I am worried about the QB position...another reason to get our B12 ticket before the season starts.
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Actually he said what any sane person who is "in touch" with reality would say. He also knows he is talking about the current conference, and either way, what he says has ZERO affect on the current CR.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
As best as I can make it out, there doesn't seem to be anything specific to CR.
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Well then I'll just assume it's over then and they've already decided. Or they're smart enough to not write it on a piece of paper.
 
It says "other business." Hmm... Maybe they're discussing what to do with Baylor?
 
ScottVib said:
The likelihood of any kind of promise or expected behavior (non-contractual) being honored 9-10 years in the future is slim-to-none. The networks are businesses, they will do what is best for the business (in their judgment, such as it is) at that point in time. It's entirely possible the entire landscape changes by then.

The Big XII needs to do what it feels is in the conferences best interest, but expecting some back room agreement with an executive at a network who may or may not be in the same position and with players that may or may not represent the best future partners in a changing landscape; would be foolish at best. It doesn't mean it's impossible that it happens, but thinking a hand-shake will carry the day a decade down the road is (IMO) a poor bet.
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First of all you completely misrepresented everything I posted.

I never said anything about some handshake deal that would come into play next decade.

I'm simply stating that if they have the ability to add any 4 schools pro-rata and they do that it will severely damage their relationship with the two networks - who are the only buyers in the marketplace.

If you don't think it would negatively impact the Big 12's future negotiations - I don't what to tell you other than that viewpoint is wrong.

The idea that the future negotiations wouldn't be impacted by $800 million dollars worth of payments that the networks don't want to make is ridiculous.

Relationships like this work when there are partnerships. Fox and the Big Ten for example. The Masters and CBS. The Olympics and NBC.

The Big 12 may decide they don't care - but there is not a single person on either side who doesn't understand it will impact their future.

We are having this conversation because of human reaction. The Big 12 wasn't expanding last month - then they got their feelings hurt by the ACC network annoucement and now they are discussing expanding again.

So how exactly won't the human reaction on the other side not color their decisions. Are they going to want to be partners again on anything but their own terms?
 
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MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
So hearing now that Fox supporting B12 expansion and ESPN pushing against.

H ver3 ‏@MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
But Fox telling B12 if ESPN doesn't want their contract on next renewal then fix would be more than happy to take it all.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
And surprise surprise: Fox wants 4 teams. BYU and 3 in the east.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
But fox will settle for BYU, 2 eastern teams and Houston.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Fox also offering to keep pro rata in the contract in case B12 wants to expand again later on.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
But fox wants at least 12 more years and a new GOR

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 12m12 minutes ago
Fox trying to persuade B12 to add a Florida school. Wants exposure for Fox in that market

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 12m12 minutes ago
Fox prefers B12 to add BYU, UC, Uconn, and UCF.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 10m10 minutes ago
Fox executives telling B12 that if we expand then Pac12 will be the next to expand with at least 2 G5s.

DocBunyan ‏@DocBunyan 10m10 minutes ago
@MH ver3 just merge with the AAC already and call it a day.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 11m11 minutes ago
@DocBunyan you mean like the ACC did with the BigEast?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 8m8 minutes ago
Fox telling B12 that adding those specific schools maximizes their market penetration from available candidates.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 8m8 minutes ago
And those are the same four that the research firm suggested for maximum market coverage as well.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 7m7 minutes ago
I have one source telling me Cincy has formally told the AAC they are withdrawing from the conference.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6m6 minutes ago
Haven't been able to verify that with my AAC(former BigEast guy that always has good info) contact though-he's been very quiet.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 5m5 minutes ago
Was told this happened today at AAC meetings. Still trying to get verification on this. Stay tuned.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 3m3 minutes ago
So in 5 minutes I've had 10 different people pm me that UC has indeed told AAC they are leaving. Still awaiting word from my AAC guy...



ME: Hmmm...the Civil Conflict might live on...;)
 
FDNY99 said:
If we ever got back together with those leech schools even in this manor I would seriously have to think about my contributions to the UConn athletic development fund. I want absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY of those schools outside of having to deal with PC as a HE member!
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I understand the nostalgia for some people, especially those who limit themselves to the MBB board. But, how many memorable games against Xavier, DePaul, Providence, Marquette, Butler, Seton Hall, Creighton, St. Johns, do you really remember? Villanova and Georgetown are the only real rivals still in that league and we don't need to be in it to play them. It's also not like the BE is a northeast bus league anymore either. Do you guys know where Creighton, Depaul, and Marquette are located?
 
CoastAtlantic said:
MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 12m12 minutes ago
Fox prefers B12 to add BYU, UC, Uconn, and UCF.


ME: Hmmm...the Civil Conflict might live on...;)
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This is consistent with chatter long ago about fox wanting FL. Huge state, lots of cable boxes. And UCONN/BYU/CINCY/UCF is my bet for the final mix. No GOR extension with redundant Houston!

So will UT sign on to extend the GOR?

Aidos ESPN!
 
Of course MH would tweet that re: Cincy notifying the AAC. He got that from Aresco who's already come out saying that "it looks like some of them (the member schools) will" leave the AAC.
 
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SubbaBub said:
I understand the nostalgia for some people, especially those who limit themselves to the MBB board. But, how many memorable games against Xavier, DePaul, Providence, Marquette, Butler, Seton Hall, Creighton, St. Johns, do you really remember? Villanova and Georgetown are the only real rivals still in that league and we don't need to be in it to play them. It's also not like the BE is a northeast bus league anymore either. Do you guys know where Creighton, Depaul, and Marquette are located?
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Against St John's? A,bunch. Ron Artest, Malik Sealy, Robert Werdan, Tarik Cook.
 
whaler11 said:
First of all you completely misrepresented everything I posted.

I never said anything about some handshake deal that would come into play next decade.

I'm simply stating that if they have the ability to add any 4 schools pro-rata and they do that it will severely damage their relationship with the two networks - who are the only buyers in the marketplace.

If you don't think it would negatively impact the Big 12's future negotiations - I don't what to tell you other than that viewpoint is wrong.

The idea that the future negotiations wouldn't be impacted by $800 million dollars worth of payments that the networks don't want to make is ridiculous.

Relationships like this work when there are partnerships. Fox and the Big Ten for example. The Masters and CBS. The Olympics and NBC.

The Big 12 may decide they don't care - but there is not a single person on either side who doesn't understand it will impact their future.

We are having this conversation because of human reaction. The Big 12 wasn't expanding last month - then they got their feelings hurt by the ACC network annoucement and now they are discussing expanding again.

So how exactly won't the human reaction on the other side not color their decisions. Are they going to want to be partners again on anything but their own terms?
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It could also be that the big 12 considered the partnership to be blown up when ESPN pulled the wool over their eyes regarding a network. It's a bit hypocritical to accuse the conference of acting emotionally when they perceive themselves as being screwed by their partner better than saying it's all business if the network does the same in 2024.

More likely that they simply don't care because nobody knows what the media landscape look like in eight years.
 
Excalibur said:
It could also be that the big 12 considered the partnership to be blown up when ESPN pulled the wool over their eyes regarding a network. It's a bit hypocritical to accuse the conference of acting emotionally when they perceive themselves as being screwed by their partner better than saying it's all business if the network does the same in 2024.

More likely that they simply don't care because nobody knows what the media landscape look like in eight years.
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I'm sure they do. The issue is that the Big 12 is one of many sellers and there are only two legitimate buyers.

If they go forward they better hope they have some new outs when the time comes.
 
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Excalibur said:
It could also be that the big 12 considered the partnership to be blown up when ESPN pulled the wool over their eyes regarding a network. It's a bit hypocritical to accuse the conference of acting emotionally when they perceive themselves as being screwed by their partner better than saying it's all business if the network does the same in 2024.

More likely that they simply don't care because nobody knows what the media landscape look like in eight years.
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They are trying to save their conference...to save their seat at the table. It can't be saved under the current footprint. Right or wrong, the strategy must be to wait no longer, take the best chips left no matter the geography and cultural issues and spend the next 7 years building the new expanded - national - B12 brand. Expand or die.
 
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Cincinnati's "insider" on 247 confirming Cincinnati is invited. I can't tell if he thinks the Big 12 is going to 12 or 14 from his post though. He implies that all the additions will be eastern. Not sure what that means for BYU.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Cincinnati's "insider" on 247 confirming Cincinnati is invited. I can't tell if he thinks the Big 12 is going to 12 or 14 from his post though. He implies that all the additions will be eastern. Not sure what that means for BYU.
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Their best move would be Cinci and UConn - so if this guy is legit and it's true they would be halfway there.
 
Exit 4 said:
So is this Fox green lighting the PAC 12 to take Houston and School X? Houston on an island is tough for Houston. But good for Fox.
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BYU and Boise? The Pac 12 becomes one heck of a football league if that happens.
 
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