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West Virginia is not really the south....they border Pennsylvania and were union in the civil conflict. Heck, WVU is 50 miles from Pittsburgh.

But, saying that, meth is more common in the poorer areas of Appalachia because of economics. Like moon shine before it, anyone can cook the stuff up in a back shed in the woods.

Leave the heroin and cocaine to the metro areas that prevail in the northeast. And crack is the metro version of meth.
 
kyleslamb said:
I think it's clear it's going to be *at least* those two, but I think Greg is right that it might take getting to 14 to get anyone to agree on the teams involved. Most likely it will go to 14 or 16.

I also believe Texas and Oklahoma are gone in 2024 regardless of what people say, and that it does make sense if Texas is also interested in finding a landing spot for a surviving conference for fellow state institutions.
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This is my view as well. UT and OU are highly unlikely to concede any extension of future media rights with the upcoming expansion. I think this is their attempt at an amicable split with the rest of the little brothers of The Big 12 in the not so distant future. The addition of 4 schools now allows all of the current members to collect a larger check for the term of the current contract, allows the new schools to build their programs, and keeps the conference at a respectable 10-12 members should a few actually bolt in the near term.
 
Waquoit said:
It's pretty clear it's going to be UC and UH, isn't it?
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No. I don't think UH has 8 votes, unless the non Texas schools get UConn as well. That's Flug's point. Schools like KU won't support Houston. So expansion is dead. There are evidently no two schools that can get the votes. But if UT will support UConn, then schools like KU and ISU will support Houston.
 
If it is a straight cash grab until GOR expiration...they go to four adds...and take $$$ from the Barbershop Quartet to divide among the current 10.

But, if there is the intent to actually build a strong conference, they take the best brands, markets, and athletics and grab the best four now.

And, if the intent is for them to build competitive P5 programs, don't be greedy about their portion of the distribution.
 
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don356 said:
You have to keep in mind Cincy has some pretty solid corporate support. They keep it quiet, but P&G is about a 10 minute drive from their campus. Probably the biggest media buyer in the world. I've all along thought that if the acc got a network together, they would end up there. I suspect we are about to find out.
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*Yawn*

Connecticut Fortune 500 Companies

45. United Technologies Corp. (Farmington), $61 billion
46. Aetna (Hartford), $60.3 billion
79. Cigna (Bloomfield), $37.9 billion
150. Xerox (Norwalk), $18.6 billion
152. Hartford Financial Services Group (Hartford), $18.4 billion
256. Stanley Black & Decker (New Britain), $11.2 billion
262. Praxair (Danbury), $10.8 billion
292. Charter Communications (Stamford), $9.8 billion
308. Priceline Group (Norwalk), $9.2 billion
353. XPO Logistics (Greenwich), $7.6 billion
368. W.R. Berkley (Greenwich), $7.2 billion
381. Emcor (Norwalk), $6.7 billion
396. Terex (Westport), $6.5 billion
419. Harman International (Stamford), $6.2 billion
440. United Rentals (Stamford), $5.8 billion
444. Starwood Resorts & Hotels (Stamford), $5.7 billion
461. Frontier Communications (Norwalk), $5.6 billion
462. Amphenol (Wallingford), $5.5 billion
 
CallMeBruce said:
The ACC isn't shut out of NYC. They have Syracuse. They also just got a great new media deal without UConn. They're not inviting us. They don't need us.
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Not sure how great that deal is given that GOR runs out a quarter century, but "yeah" to the rest.
 
End of the day, every program in the Big 12 not named Texas and Oklahoma should be pushing for 4 teams in case Texas and Oklahoma split in the future as then the remaining teams could possibly survive as a P5 conference if that happened. The Big 12's problem is not athletic performance as it is probably the 2nd or 3rd best athletic conference based on performance. The problem is market size/eyeballs as they have the smallest reach of all the P5 conferences. In the long run, eyeballs are going to determine potential conference payout, so the Big 12 should focus on increasing market reach. If that is the primary driver of expansion, the logical four candidates are UConn, BYU, UCF, and Cincinnati. If increasing market size is not a priority, but travel is, then they may look at Houston and Memphis.
 
CL82 said:
*Yawn*

Connecticut Fortune 500 Companies

45. United Technologies Corp. (Farmington), $61 billion
46. Aetna (Hartford), $60.3 billion
79. Cigna (Bloomfield), $37.9 billion
150. Xerox (Norwalk), $18.6 billion
152. Hartford Financial Services Group (Hartford), $18.4 billion
256. Stanley Black & Decker (New Britain), $11.2 billion
262. Praxair (Danbury), $10.8 billion
292. Charter Communications (Stamford), $9.8 billion
308. Priceline Group (Norwalk), $9.2 billion
353. XPO Logistics (Greenwich), $7.6 billion
368. W.R. Berkley (Greenwich), $7.2 billion
381. Emcor (Norwalk), $6.7 billion
396. Terex (Westport), $6.5 billion
419. Harman International (Stamford), $6.2 billion
440. United Rentals (Stamford), $5.8 billion
444. Starwood Resorts & Hotels (Stamford), $5.7 billion
461. Frontier Communications (Norwalk), $5.6 billion
462. Amphenol (Wallingford), $5.5 billion
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Well done. I feel like I am taking crazy pills every time I come across someone saying some nonsense about Cincinnati having such great Fortune 500 support. At the top of this list is the company that has donated the land (and continues to donate land) so that UConn can build a football stadium in the heart of the state, right off a major highway artery. But yeah, Cincinnati has 1 Fortune 500 company that apparently has a few hundred employees that went to UC.

Missing from this list? ESPN/Disney. They're the ones who are shelling out $1B to add 4 additional schools.
 
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CL82 said:
*Yawn*

Connecticut Fortune 500 Companies

45. United Technologies Corp. (Farmington), $61 billion
46. Aetna (Hartford), $60.3 billion
79. Cigna (Bloomfield), $37.9 billion
150. Xerox (Norwalk), $18.6 billion
152. Hartford Financial Services Group (Hartford), $18.4 billion
256. Stanley Black & Decker (New Britain), $11.2 billion
262. Praxair (Danbury), $10.8 billion
292. Charter Communications (Stamford), $9.8 billion
308. Priceline Group (Norwalk), $9.2 billion
353. XPO Logistics (Greenwich), $7.6 billion
368. W.R. Berkley (Greenwich), $7.2 billion
381. Emcor (Norwalk), $6.7 billion
396. Terex (Westport), $6.5 billion
419. Harman International (Stamford), $6.2 billion
440. United Rentals (Stamford), $5.8 billion
444. Starwood Resorts & Hotels (Stamford), $5.7 billion
461. Frontier Communications (Norwalk), $5.6 billion
462. Amphenol (Wallingford), $5.5 billion
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Oh this again. Starwood falls off the list later this year. Xerox has very few employees in Norwalk. Same with Charter, less than 200. Overall, CT is no longer a real star in the corporate HQ world. And more to the point we don't have great involvement between UConn and these businesses, but I do have confidence Herbst is working on that.
 
I would argue that Uconn bring CT and that Cincinatti bring Cincinatti. Ohio has 4x the population of CT so I would say its a wash.
 
Exit 4 said:
Oh this again. Starwood falls off the list later this year. Xerox has very few employees in Norwalk. Same with Charter, less than 200. Overall, CT is no longer a real star in the corporate HQ world. And more to the point we don't have great involvement between UConn and these businesses, but I do have confidence Herbst is working on that.
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Damn straight this again. Every other candidate is making throwing everything but the kitchen sink out there. We should tout our equivalent (superior) metrics.
 
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CL82 said:
Damn straight this again. Every other candidate is making throwing everything but the kitchen sink out there. We should tout our equivalent (superior) metrics.
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Sorry, sometimes I think we could all use a little splash of cold water reality. Cincy and UConn are probably on even corporate footing. Okay, I'll stop. :)
 
Exit 4 said:
Sorry, sometimes I think we could all use a little splash of cold water reality. Cincy and UConn are probably on even corporate footing. Okay, I'll stop. :)
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I think you are under selling us and over selling Cinci, but truth be told, I haven't checked.
 
ScottBonz said:
I would argue that Uconn bring CT and that Cincinatti bring Cincinatti. Ohio has 4x the population of CT so I would say its a wash.
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I think we can do better than that. Connecticut has about 75% more people than the Cincinnati metro area, and Connecticut residents are much more affluent than Cincinnati residents.
 
ScottBonz said:
I would argue that Uconn bring CT and that Cincinatti bring Cincinatti. Ohio has 4x the population of CT so I would say its a wash.
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Cincinnati
Population 298,000
Sports teams:
Bengals
Reds
Univ Ohio
Cincinnati

vs.

Connecticut
Population 3,500,000
Sport teams:
UConn

Yeah, I'm saying maybe it's not quite a wash.
 
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This whole debate is kinda silly but here's actual numbers.

Connecticut is 5,543 square miles. It has 18 fortune 500 companies.
Ohio is 44,825 square miles. It has 27 fortune 500 companies.
Cincinnati is 80 square miles. It has 10 fortune 500 companies.

Analyze whatever you want out of that.
 
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CL82 said:
Cincinatti
Population 298,000
Sports teams:
Bengals
Reds
Univ Ohio
Cincinatti

vs.

Connecticut
Population 3,500,000
Sport teams:
UConn

Yeah, I'm saying maybe it's not quite a wash.
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Cincinnati metro is 2,137,406 though...that population is city limits only.
 
Slasher said:
This whole debate is kinda silly but here's actual numbers.

Connecticut is 5,543 square miles. It has 18 fortune 500 companies.

Cincinnati is 80 square miles. It has 10 fortune 500 companies.

Analyze whatever you want out of that.
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FIFY ;)
 
Slasher said:
Cincinnati metro is 2,137,406 though...that population is city limits only.
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Not according the US Census, but what do they know.

Linky
Cincinnati
Population 298,000
 
CallMeBruce said:
The ACC isn't shut out of NYC. They have Syracuse. They also just got a great new media deal without UConn. They're not inviting us. They don't need us.
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I think you are wrong here.

Unlike the Big 10 and Rutgers, the ACC should not get an in-market rate for NYC as Syracuse is not part of the NYC TV market. The actual Syracuse TV market is very small, so an ACC Network may only have a small in-market footprint in NY state. Maybe the ACC can push into adjacent TV markets like Buffalo and Albany and push for in-market rates there, but that is unclear. Obviously, all of NY would probably get an ACC Network, but mostly at the out of market rate. Delaney of the Big 10 understood media markets, which is why he grabbed Rutgers and Maryland and caught the ACC flat footed. As we all now know, Rutgers was the golden goose of conference networks.

If the ACC wanted to push for an in-market rate in NYC, or at least a higher out-of-market rate, they would probably need UConn. So, yes, UConn would be a valuable asset for an ACC Network. In fact, having UConn in the ACC might also get a higher rate in most of New England.

I believe this is an interesting time for UConn, the Big 10, and the ACC. UConn with Rutgers and Penn St would mean NYC is clearly a Big 10 market. The ACC with Syracuse, UConn, and Notre Dame would have a strong foothold in NYC. Seems logical that something should happen.
 
CL82 said:
Not according the US Census, but what do they know.

Linky
Cincinatti
Population 298,000
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Oh god, really - you don't know the difference between MSAs, City Limits and DMAs? I'm going to assume you do ...and lets steer this back to Non Key CRA nonsense.:rolleyes:
 
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