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blauds 11:37am via Mobile Web (M2)
Cmpromise idea for Big 12 expansion--add BYU and one other school for football only.
A compromise for Big 12 expansion

Interesting idea - fraught with execution challenges....as in, making a deal with the BE & B12 while exiting the AAC will be a tricky discussion and hard to keep under wraps.

 

[CTMike]

I think the compromise will be 2 now and 2 later.

 

[NYUConn]

I think the compromise will be 2 now and 2 later.

The two football only schools is an idea, but if you do it why not do it as part of an expansion to 14? Go BYU and CSU football only in the west and UConn/Cincy in the east as all members. Eliminates going fully into a third timezone, but adds solid football programs that will help conference stay competitive on gridiron. UConn and Cincy give West Virginia eastern partners and add good markets and year round content for a network.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Interesting idea - fraught with execution challenges....as in, making a deal with the BE & B12 while exiting the AAC will be a tricky discussion and hard to keep under wraps.

Getting the Big East to agree to take us in basketball would require a 30-second phone call from Herbst.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Getting the Big East to agree to take us in basketball would require a 30-second phone call from Herbst.

This idea that the Big East wouldn't take back its most valuable member because of some irrelevant nonsense like the fact that we're not a catholic school is one of the weirder ideas I've heard posited during all of this nonsense. They want to make money, and we're easily the most valuable basketball property on the board, right inside the Big East's footprint, and we have a ton of history with most of the teams in the league.

 

[Exit 4]

Getting the Big East to agree to take us in basketball would require a 30-second phone call from Herbst.

Good to know.

 

[Exit 4]

One risk with the football only approach....that in the next CRA churn - say 2025 or thereafter, I would feel vulnerable to be ditch all over again....just like the runaway from the BE.....but probably can't worry about that if this is the option provided.

 

[businesslawyer]

blauds 11:37am via Mobile Web (M2)
Cmpromise idea for Big 12 expansion--add BYU and one other school for football only.
A compromise for Big 12 expansion

OMFG. Dog track time for Blauds. Seriously. The XII will go to New England, take UConn for football and protect itself by not taking UConn basketball. I don't know if you could have a more stupid idea than that.

FWIW, UConn says yes to that in a heartbeat. Who knows if the Big East lets us in (presumably Fox pressures it to), but even if not, football in the Big XII and everything else in the A-Ten would be a deal we'd take in a heartbeat. Take UConn out of the picture and the A-Ten is slightly better than the AAC in hoops, but if they're only even it's at least a geographic fit with opponents we can give a damn about.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
We will get flamed for tweeting this..but..
BTM: OU contacts this morning still optimistic B12 will make decision to expand by end of Summer

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM:OU contacts have told us Oklahoma University will espouse their expansion position today, Thursday, June 2nd.
Before Friday data dump.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@frankthetank111
If 2 new members(or 4)take 4-5 year haircuts on tier 1/2 TV deals (23 mil each school) then UT can be made whole on B12N

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@frankthetank111
....At least until 2024
B12N Subscription model does not alone have to create approx 120 mil of distribution to schools

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@frankthetank111
However, B12N model would need to be able to sustain itself in years after "haircut years" have been completed.

 

[businesslawyer]

One risk with the football only approach....that in the next CRA churn - say 2025 or thereafter, I would feel vulnerable to be ditch all over again....just like the runaway from the BE.....but probably can't worry about that if this is the option provided.

Sorry, but that's a misuse of the word risk. Does XII for football and everything else in the Big East or A-Ten leave us more vulnerable than being in a P-5 league fully? Yes. But it leaves us light years less vulnerable than we are today.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

One risk with the football only approach....that in the next CRA churn - say 2025 or thereafter, I would feel vulnerable to be ditch all over again....just like the runaway from the BE.....but probably can't worry about that if this is the option provided.

I agree this would be a risk, but it would be less of one than remaining in the AAC long term. That said, I think the proposition is stupid as BL pointed out and won't happen. No reason for the B12 to come all the way east to take us and leave our two most valuable sports on the table.

 

[DCUconnfan]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
We will get flamed for tweeting this..but..
BTM: OU contacts this morning still optimistic B12 will make decision to expand by end of Summer

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM:OU contacts have told us Oklahoma University will espouse their expansion position today, Thursday, June 2nd.
Before Friday data dump.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@frankthetank111
If 2 new members(or 4)take 4-5 year haircuts on tier 1/2 TV deals (23 mil each school) then UT can be made whole on B12N

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@frankthetank111
....At least until 2024
B12N Subscription model does not alone have to create approx 120 mil of distribution to schools

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@frankthetank111
However, B12N model would need to be able to sustain itself in years after "haircut years" have been completed.

Wait, I thought math, statistics and logical reasoning weren't allowed in B12 internal expansion discussions, only bickering, d*ck swinging, and tweets from WV fans. What gives?

 

[TRest]

ME: I think it's dawning on MH ver that the Big 12 isn't long for the world.[/QUOTE]

All scenarios lead to a soft comfy chair for WVU to land in, so no worries on his end.

 

[mavblues]

All scenarios IN HIS HEAD lead to a soft comfy chair for WVU to land in, so no worries on his end.

FIFY

 

[Western PA]

When it comes to conference realignment, there are no more delusional posters than those from west by God Virginia. Isolated market and horrific/embarrassing academic are going to doom the couch-burners in the next shake out.
WVU, Iowa State, Texas Tech, TCU and K State are all in for a rude surprise.

 

[FDNY99]

When it comes to conference realignment, there are no more delusional posters than those from west by God Virginia. Isolated market and horrific/embarrassing academic are going to doom the couch-burners in the next shake out.
WVU, Iowa State, Texas Tech, TCU and K State are all in for a rude surprise.

You can definitely add Baylor to that list...and that group will make a nice addition to the AAC.

 

[Ldandy]

You can definitely add Baylor to that list...and that group will make a nice addition to the AAC.

Hopefully the end of The Big 12's Deal coincides with the end of The AAC's as well. Should Armageddon occur and UT, OU, and KU bolt, the remaining 7 with a select few others would make a very nice conference.

West- BYU, CSU, K State OK State, TTU, TCU, Baylor, Houston,
East- ISU, Cincy, WVU, UCONN, Navy, Temple, UCF, USF

 

[Western PA]

I wonder about Wake Forrest also. That is if the ACC has a major shake up.
I do not see the B1G unloading its also rans, Purdue, NW, et.al.

 

[Exit 4]

Hopefully the end of The Big 12's Deal coincides with the end of The AAC's as well. Should Armageddon occur and UT, OU, and KU bolt, the remaining 7 with a select few others would make a very nice conference.

West- BYU, CSU, K State OK State, TTU, TCU, Baylor, Houston,
East- ISU, Cincy, WVU, UCONN, Navy, Temple, UCF, USF

I'll take it. Take it today. And don't shoot me.

 

[FDNY99]

I'll take it. Take it today. And don't shoot me.

I agree with you guys 100%. That conference isn't bad at all.

 

[CL82]

I agree with you guys 100%. That conference isn't bad at all.

Bah, B-listers and back benchers, it just looks pretty good from where we are sitting.

 

[Glastonhusky]

You can definitely add Baylor to that list...and that group will make a nice addition to the AAC.

Which is why I don't understand why these schools aren't 100% behind expansion. Don't they realize that they won't be in a good place if/when Texas and OU leave?

 

[mavblues]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 37m37 minutes ago

Greg Flugaur Retweeted Jason Williams

https://mobile.twitter.com/jwilliamscincy/status/738457379172421632…

Greg Flugaur added,

Jason Williams @jwilliamscincy
@daniel2burke Vibe in media room, though, is if expansion: UC and UConn w/ BYU as wild card.

1 retweet 7 likes

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Brad Bannister ‏@BradBanny 11h11 hours ago
@MH ver3 sure hope WVU is preparing to land in a new home at the end of the current contract.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 11h11 hours ago
@BradBanny we have had talks with one conference about moving in tandem with OU after GOR is up.

The Bad Guy ‏@snoopdoug44 5h5 hours ago
@MH ver3 @BradBanny meaning the SEC

Andy smith ‏@Doctor_alesmith 4h4 hours ago
@snoopdoug44 @MH ver3 @BradBanny why would Oklahoma move with WV instead of OSU

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 3h3 hours ago
@Doctor_alesmith @snoopdoug44 @BradBanny because sec wants both and not osu

Scott MacHaggis ‏@ScottMacHaggis 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 @Doctor_alesmith @snoopdoug44 @BradBanny Why would the SEC want WVU, they passed on them in 2012 and took Missouri instead?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@ScottMacHaggis @Doctor_alesmith @snoopdoug44 @BradBanny and last time it was about markets next time it will be about tradition

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@ScottMacHaggis @Doctor_alesmith @snoopdoug44 @BradBanny because they only took Mizzou by the slimmest margines.

The Bad Guy ‏@snoopdoug44 51m51 minutes ago
@MH ver3 @ScottMacHaggis @Doctor_alesmith @BradBanny OU had the invite to go with aTm and turned it down twice

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
So two positives from today: presentation showed how adding schools can add money without a network and CCG discussions were very productive

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 5h5 hours ago
Boren:if we don't expand the league to at least 12 and add network then OU will be searching for a new home for 2024

Boomer17 ‏@Boomer145 5h5 hours ago
@MH ver3 There is literally NO way Boren ever said that. He is a politician who would never box himself in with time frames.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 5h5 hours ago
@Boomer145 I'm not sure if those were his exact words but that is what I was told

Boomer17 ‏@Boomer145 5h5 hours ago
@MH ver3 If OU looks for a new home it will be long before 2024 but he would never broadcast specifics

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 5h5 hours ago
@Boomer145 I'm telling you he's already found the new home. WVU as well. Both preferred to fix this league though

Joe Staffileno ‏@Michiganeer 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 @Boomer145 where would that be?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Michiganeer @Boomer145 Somewhere Else Conference

Joe Staffileno ‏@Michiganeer 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 @Boomer145 I was looking for which conference specifically WVU may end up in

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Michiganeer @Boomer145 I answered you. Look closely

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
I'm told tempers cooled and things became much much more productive.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
I'm told Bowlsby will address the media in the next hour but just expect more of the same he's already said.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
Oh and Bowlsby might have good news for Baker Mayfield.

Jason Williams ‏@jwilliamscincy 3h3 hours agoMaryland, USA
@daniel2burke Vibe in media room, though, is if expansion: UC and UConn w/ BYU as wild card.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 32m32 minutes ago
@jwilliamscincy @daniel2burke what I've been saying since January.

 

[mavblues]

OU supporters have had enough of the Big 12. Read the Tweets:

Oklahoma football: Sooner fans voice frustration to OU President David Boren on Twitter