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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 23m23 minutes ago
This is why I don't do podcast with idiots. If you can't get understand how significant this FOX/B1G deal vs the nonsense you spewed..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 21m21 minutes ago
Big difference between... TV Money only Vs TV Money only + Bowl $ + BB Tourney. This FOXB1G TV only deal (1/2 total content) is a monster

Flintdawg8208 ‏@Odharris1 20m20 minutes ago
@flugempire ya boy the dude is spinning this like it's a disappointment for the Big Ten. Hater no matter what.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 16m16 minutes ago
@Odharris1 He is scrambling up "TV only" projections vs total payouts which include "TV only". Intentionally or not...the guy is well..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 15m15 minutes ago
@Odharris1 This TV Only package of 1/2 of B1G Tier 1 deal is mind losing if 2nd half of package comes in same or close.

Flintdawg8208 ‏@Odharris1 9m9 minutes ago
@flugempire he's losing his mind because he knows it's a short deal and that mean realignment come in within the next six years for sure

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 15m15 minutes ago
@Odharris1 And we haven't gotten to new B1G CCG deal part of it yet... ...while B12 ponders if they should even have CCG. Good grief.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 14m14 minutes ago
@Odharris1 Boren is shaking his head at the fools in the B12. Oklahoma is not going to stand for this *
 
LOL. Didn't the Dude claim that the B1G's Deal would only see a 10-15% increase over what they are currently earning? What a flipping tool. You have to love that this deal is for 6 years only as well. It comes to an end right around the same time The Big 12's GOR is set to expire. In seven years Diamond Jim Delany is coming for The Univerity of Texas. He may just relieve Bowlsby of Oklahoma and Kansas for good measure. Sucks for the Dude, as I highly doubt The SEC is going to be picking up WVU's Calls.
 
Eric ‏@kurly99 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 just wanted to give you a heads up. No one but friends read it didn't want to write about this topic without mentioning you

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 42m42 minutes ago
@kurly99 nah it's cool man

Eric ‏@kurly99 39m39 minutes ago
@MH ver3 thanks, this stuff fascinates me

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 40m40 minutes ago
Fox gonna pay $250 mil per year for the cheap half of B10 contract.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 40m40 minutes ago
That's $18m per school per year...for the CHEAP half

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 40m40 minutes ago
Looking like the other half will go for somewhere between $375-$450m per year.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 39m39 minutes ago
Looking like the $40-$50m per school number was correct after all. And this is all before BTN shares.

KMK. ‏@KilcreaKelly 40m40 minutes ago
@MH ver3 no need to expand now

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 39m39 minutes ago
@KilcreaKelly expansion for B10 has and always will be about BTN not the TV contracts.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 39m39 minutes ago
Now the $$ will be too much for Tobacco Road to ignore.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 39m39 minutes ago
Fox's deal will have pro rata for B10 additions.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 38m38 minutes ago
It will give them additional inventory on top of the 25 fb and 50 bball games.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 38m38 minutes ago
I'd imagine The other half will too.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 38m38 minutes ago
Is it worth $17m for 2 football games and 4 bball games?

80s Tiger ‏@80sTiger 38m38 minutes ago
@MH ver3 what will the B12 look like when they announce a B12 network with the LHN rolled in ?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 38m38 minutes ago
@80sTiger it ain't gonna change our tier 1&2 deal. Not per team.

Andrew Wamugi ‏@AndrewWamugi 38m38 minutes ago
@MH ver3 don't forget our digital rights $ similar to NFL deal with Twitter

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 37m37 minutes ago
@AndrewWamugi b12N will help close the gap a little but the gap is going to be wide until we re-up our contract.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 36m36 minutes ago
B10 was wanting a longer deal for less but Fox offered a ridiculous amount to keep it short.

Erich Keithly ‏@ekeithly_1 36m36 minutes ago
@MH ver3 How does this make sense?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 35m35 minutes ago
@ekeithly_1 B10 was asking 12 years, $200m per.

Andrew Wamugi ‏@AndrewWamugi 36m36 minutes ago
@MH ver3 Fox's $250M is the exact dollar amount 21st Century Fox was supposed to cut from budget which has led to employee buyout offers

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 35m35 minutes ago
@AndrewWamugi I wonder why they paid so much for a short term deal when they could've gotten it cheaper for more years?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 36m36 minutes ago
@AndrewWamugi now the second half will be 6 years too because B10 wants them to be together.

Andrew Wamugi ‏@AndrewWamugi 34m34 minutes ago
@MH ver3 term length is closer to a pro sports deal. changing tv viewing habits make 10-year deals risky for all parties.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 33m33 minutes ago
@AndrewWamugi I think it has a lot to do with where fox sees viewership shifting to streaming even more in the near future.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 36m36 minutes ago
NBC is willing to go $350m per year for the other half so I'm pretty sure it will go higher.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 35m35 minutes ago
If ESPN wins the bidding without splitting with another network it could be bad bad news for ACC or B12.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 33m33 minutes ago
Scary fact: B10 rights will be up for renewal again before B12 and ACC rights are up.

Andrew Wamugi ‏@AndrewWamugi 33m33 minutes ago
@MH ver3 what about SEC?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 29m29 minutes ago
@AndrewWamugi same. They are locked up for awhile too

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 29m29 minutes ago
@MH ver3 just think, ACC,B12,SEC, P12 all signed 10-15 year deals to get more cash. B10 at 6 years getting that kind of $ is impressive

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 16m16 minutes ago
@NebGradDubDub @MH ver3 Mind blowing.

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 27m27 minutes agoIrmo, SC
@MH ver3 Well there is a reason Fox wants a short window. They are afraid they won't be able to afford the high payouts down the road.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 31m31 minutes ago
I misspoke. NBC will go $250 on the other half. That's my bad. Still a lot of cash.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 30m30 minutes ago
The other half will be a bidding war though.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 30m30 minutes ago
Still will net close to $40m before BTN$$

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 30m30 minutes ago
At this amount of $$ B10 expansion is a matter of who and when not if.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 29m29 minutes ago
Also misspoke about pro rata. The deal would increase but in a graduated amount to the newcomers.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 28m28 minutes ago
Put this in perspective. One B10 team will make in a year on half their rights what the entire AAC makes in a year.


Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Is the Big Ten the first domino?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@NathanBrice3000 yes so to speak.

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Would they go to 16?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@NathanBrice3000 goal is 20 but would go 16 if they can't get the right fit.

Matt Alexander ‏@Hawks5151 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal I think the new BIG TV deal proves they don't need to add anyone. Looks like the schools are going to get paid well.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@Hawks5151 I would be happy with that but the Fox numbers are not final and my Fox contact did say the 4 teams from ACC.

Matt Alexander ‏@Hawks5151 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal If they are are saying it includes the 4 ACC teams and they are announcing the deal, means they maybe close to deal with the 4

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@Hawks5151 not sure what proposal it was based off. They submitted two including and not including. It should start leaking soon.

Scott Wright ‏@cscottwright 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @Hawks5151 Your Fox contact did say the 4 teams from the ACC are what? Included in the reported numbers? Or have agreed to move

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@cscottwright @Hawks5151 just that two bids were given including and not including.

Rob Puthoff ‏@RobPuthoff 15m15 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal what percentages would you give for those 4 teams to come to the #B1G ? 50/50 70/30?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4m4 minutes ago
@RobPuthoff I would say 50/50
 
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At these numbers, why wouldn't everyone want to join the B1G?

At $500 mn per year for 25 fb and 50 bb games, it's basically $7 mn per football game and $1.5 mn per basketball game. For a school with 6 home FB games and 13 home basketball games, that's $60 mn.

The $20 mn the ACC and B12 get per school is suddenly looking closer to the AAC than the B1G.
 
pj said:
At these numbers, why wouldn't everyone want to join the B1G?

At $500 mn per year for 25 fb and 50 bb games, it's basically $7 mn per football game and $1.5 mn per basketball game. For a school with 6 home FB games and 13 home basketball games, that's $60 mn.

The $20 mn the ACC and B12 get per school is suddenly looking closer to the AAC than the B1G.
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We do. That's why it's the white whale. Even President Herbst has a harpoon in her office at the ready just in case.
 
Stinger92860 said:
So, was Bluevod correct all along?
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Bluevod is still saying that Big 10 would like to go to 20, but would go to 16 if they cannot get the right teams. The teams allegedly being wooed are from the ACC and include UVA,NC GT FSU with ND in play. He claims that his Fox contact told him bids went out with and without the additional teams. He gives the addition of those teams a 50% of occurring.
 
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Soooooooooooo, if we stick it out for 2023-ish then SOMEONE will want us, right?

Looking at the remnants of the ACC of course.
 
Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @pfac51 @frankthetank111 it will be close to the $47- $50 mill per school when all media is said and done. TV (1st/2nd) + BTN

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker @pfac51 @frankthetank111 Really? You think that. Just inflation.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker What was the BTN payout (rights fees + profit sharing) last year? To get near $50M per it has to => $14M.

Flintdawg8208 ‏@Odharris1 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @pfac51 @frankthetank111 you repeatedly said that the Big Ten will be disappointed in their new contract.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@Odharris1 @pfac51 @frankthetank111 No. I said B1G fan boys would be. I said 15-20% increase.

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @Odharris1 @pfac51 @frankthetank111 like that's more than 15-20% increase

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker @Odharris1 @pfac51 @frankthetank111 You guys are funny.

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV you're already looking at around $45- $47 million per year per team.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker How? $36M for Fox & Whoever.... Another 5 for BTN?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker To put it in perspective the SEC has the oldest (& smallest) primary TV deal & disbursed $32M in 2014.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker B1G deal is big. But nowhere near the 45-55m projections some were throwing out.

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV like I said, it will be close to the $50 million mark per team.Mark my words. Write it down. On 4/18/16. Laugh if you want. :)

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@JonBCoker How?

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV just sit back and watch Delaney do what he does best. Negotiate.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker Because I bet Fox gets what amounts to T1 games.

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV ESPN will not lose out on B1G content. They now know what it will take and shareholders will see. They will pay.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker They already have. They are not going to pay top dollar for second choice content.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker The second network isn't going to pay more than Fox. Maybe less if Fox gets 1st choice.

Shawn ‏@McCoyShawn13 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV @JonBCoker Fox has the least expensive half

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV ESPN will get the 2nd part and will pay more to get first dibs on the T1 games. I wouldn't be surprised to see $1.6b-$2b

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker Smart move by B1G but it's not the deal you guys think.

Flintdawg8208 ‏@Odharris1 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @JonBCoker tell us the deal JD is working then? It is OK to be wrong. Maybe in five to six years wvu will be in B1G.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker The B1G fan boys who set the bar ridiculously high ($45-55 for primary TV) are going to be upset.

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV they may be. They might not. Every conference has their fanatics. It's what makes this sport great

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker What if that second deal is 1/2 or 2/3 the Fox deal & it costs BTN content?

Jonathan Coker™ ‏@JonBCoker 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV won't happen. This is all about helping their own network (BTN) as well. Delaney knows what he's doing. Now at this point...

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h3 hours ago
@JonBCoker Because Fox is buying Ohio State, UM, MSU, PSU & Neb. What's the rest worth?

Shawn ‏@McCoyShawn13 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV @JonBCoker and Wisconsin



Omega Supreme‏@OmegaSupreme914
Omega Supreme Retweeted Dennis Dodd

@Odharris1 @posas13 @Expansion_Crush @flugempire @theGoldHelmets @MHver3 @Doctor_alesmith @NebGradDubDub

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Dennis Dodd @dennisdoddcbs
Why the Big Ten's reported short new TV deal with Fox makes sense Why the Big Ten's reported short new TV deal with Fox makes sense via @CBSSports

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @Odharris1 @posas13 @Expansion_Crush @theGoldHelmets @MHver3 @Doctor_alesmith @NebGradDubDub Dodd is a mess.

H ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 dodds confirming B10 was after a longer term deal.
 
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I think this means that other conferences will have to respond somehow. It's the only way they can get more money anytime soon. B12 has more options than the ACC.
 
Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 11h11 hours ago
@OleRog The goal has always been 6 to make 20 team league. Would they settle with 4 and 16 yes if it is not a good deal.

OleRog ‏@OleRog 2h2 hours agoMidland, TX
@Bluevodreal which 6?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@OleRog sounds like 4 right now FSU. As son as summer and UN GT UVA to follow. Do they stay at 18 or grab 20 with ND in play

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
50/50 prediction for expansion now 60/40 and picking up steam.

Erich Keithly ‏@ekeithly_1 1h1 hour ago
@Bluevodreal You were only 50/50?

alex bricker ‏@abrick75 1h1 hour ago
@ekeithly_1 @Bluevodreal when it all started I think he said it was 10/90. Got to 50/50 last wee

Genetics56 ‏@Genetics56 1h1 hour ago
@abrick75 @ekeithly_1 @Bluevodreal FSU, Georgia Tech, UNC, UVA and ND? Bring in Oklahoma for the other team.

alex bricker ‏@abrick75 52m52 minutes ago
@Genetics56 @ekeithly_1 @Bluevodreal would be a nice get football wise but it seems like this will be a market value deal

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 47m47 minutes ago
@ekeithly_1 things are looking more positive with FSU and the 3 others it is really picking up steam.

Hanes ‏@ahanes1 54m54 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal why agree to terms on 1/2 of tv rights and then announce a huge expansion a few months later? Seems illogical.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 45m45 minutes ago
@ahanes1 need to see the final language of this first deal. I bet they keep some of it out until it happens. Told summer first could jump.
 
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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 54m54 minutes ago
JUST IN:
From BTM:
Oklahoma will not support any extension of Big 12 Grant of Rights as a precursor to the creation of Big 12 Network.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 51m51 minutes ago
So what does that mean?
I'm not sure...past the obvious. I have dinner with BTM in 3 weeks.
That's too long of a time to wait.

Husky Army ‏@thehuskyarmy · 45m45 minutes ago
@flugempire can someone explain?

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@thehuskyarmy I will try to later today...I'm not what this message means in its totality

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@UConn6thBorough @thehuskyarmy @DooleyMcStitch
but logically you would need to extend GOR for B12N creation...and OU is in favor of B12N..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 27m27 minutes ago
@UConn6thBorough @thehuskyarmy @DooleyMcStitch
So yes...Im more than a little confused by BTM subject line only emsil to me..
IDK
 
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Assuming that the ACC's GoR had some contingencies on the creation of a network, Oklahoma probably doesn't want to find itself in the same situation.

That is, locking itself into a conference network that may or may not happen. And if it does happen, they probably want to avoid locking themselves into a contract that takes them past the point where they know other conference deals will be expiring.
 
OU wouldn't or shouldn't want any part of a new GOR that would close any loopholes that their lawyers feel can be exploited OR lock them into a conference that is clearly beneath them over the long-term (i.e. they won't make the same mistake FSU made). There is no reason why Texas or Oklahoma should get 1/4 of the revenue that Rutgers or Purdue.
 
Sounds like a negotiating ploy versus Texas. Draw line in the sand, and use it as a concession down the road in order to get Texas et al to tow their line.
 
The Funster said:
Makes sense, shorter length, more cash. Hedging against cord cutters and other changes in the industry?
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Yeah, but deals increase with each renegotiation, so the B1G will have two bump ups before anyone else has their next one. That makes this even more beneficial to them. IMHO.
 
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