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With our without an ACC network, the conference isn't going to just dissolve. These guys are delusional.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I have proposed lots of solutions. You just don't like them. If your house is on fire, you need to either extinguish the fire or get out of the house. Your choice is to do neither.
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There is another choice besides extinguish or get out:

I would siphon water from my swimming pool (exit fees) using a hose (AAC) and attempt to contain the fire (beg harder) until the firetrucks (P5 invite) showed up!
 
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I love the fact that they think they have to say conference up north. They are afraid of being sued by a Big conference because of the imbecilic prattle they spout.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
There is nothing warped about it. The UConn athletic department has a $25 million budget hole, in a large part from football. If we don't get into the Big 12, who is going to cover that hole?

The state of Connecticut has a $1 billion budget hole, and is reducing its subsidy to the state colleges. So now we have shrinking state funds against an athletic program that is losing money hand over fist. The only way to cover the athletic budget hole is to charge every graduate and undergraduate student about $800 a year to keep the football program alive. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of those students don't like football that much.

It will cost UConn $225 million to maintain the athletic program at this level until the end of the current P5 TV deals and GOR's, at which point who knows what the landscape will look like? Is it realistic for a school to invest $225 million into something that we hope will break our way in 9 years but might still suck even at that point?

If UConn wants to save its football program, it needs to figure out a way to generate more revenue. If the AAC is a dry well, then it needs to get out of the AAC. If, as I am sure I will see in succeeding posts, there is no alternative, then the answer is easy.
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Careful with your analysis. The latest financials have said football, and men's and women's basketball make money after you allocate the Nike and conference revenues to each sport. Not all of the analysis that I have seen does this. (Men's hockey may be close to break even now with the move to HE, but I don't know the #s.) Also, there are two budget line items that don't necessarily show up in other schools' budgets: the cost of scholarships and student intramural and recreation costs.

Let's first look at scholarship costs as it is included in some schools profit analysis and not in others. It is estimated that athletic scholarships cost UConn about $14 million per year. Of this, I estimate that $4 million+ of this expense is the difference between in-state and out-of state tuition costs (~$20k/year.) I view the $4 million additional out-of-state tuition cost as funny money that is an accounting matter, but others may want to include it.

The McKinsey report (2011) on potential cost savings and revenue enhancements at UConn estimated that the UConn athletics budget includes $9 million of student fees and costs associated with student recreational services and intramurals. In other words, $9 million (in 2011) of the "athletics subsidy" was actually student fees used for student activities, not to subsidize intercollegiate athletics. (It does allow UConn to show a bigger athletic budget, which seems to be a positive in conference realignment.)

And, it is estimated that the sports at UConn, outside of football, and men's and women's basketball lose $12 to $15 million per year. This is the problem at all schools, not just UConn. Title IX requires you to have equal men's and women's athletic scholarships which is an expense that generates little revenue. Non-revenue sports can be cut to reduce the subsidy.

One other point. UConn is "required" to play basketball games at the XL Center. This hurts UConn's athletics budget by decreasing revenues and increasing expenses in comparison to playing games at Gampel. It's pretty clear that UConn plays at the XL Center for political and not financial reasons, but should UConn be subsidizing the XL Center?

The above are the facts and show the UConn athletics finances are not as bad as Nelson says, but they still require a subsidy. The Big East money rolling off is another headwind, but that is why Benedict was hired as AD as he needs to figure out where to get more revenues.

Probably the sport with the biggest upside from today, is football. Going forward, the team looks improved and the home schedule is improving with schools like BC, Syracuse, Virginia, and Missouri in the next few years. I think football attendance and revenues are set to improve going forward. And having a competitive football team is the only way to a possible P5 invite and increased revenues.
 
UConnJim said:
Careful with your analysis. The latest financials have said football, and men's and women's basketball make money after you allocate the Nike and conference revenues to each sport. Not all of the analysis that I have seen does this. (Men's hockey may be close to break even now with the move to HE, but I don't know the #s.) Also, there are two budget line items that don't necessarily show up in other schools' budgets: the cost of scholarships and student intramural and recreation costs.

Let's first look at scholarship costs as it is included in some schools profit analysis and not in others. It is estimated that athletic scholarships cost UConn about $14 million per year. Of this, I estimate that $4 million+ of this expense is the difference between in-state and out-of state tuition costs (~$20k/year.) I view the $4 million additional out-of-state tuition cost as funny money that is an accounting matter, but others may want to include it.

The McKinsey report (2011) on potential cost savings and revenue enhancements at UConn estimated that the UConn athletics budget includes $9 million of student fees and costs associated with student recreational services and intramurals. In other words, $9 million (in 2011) of the "athletics subsidy" was actually student fees used for student activities, not to subsidize intercollegiate athletics. (It does allow UConn to show a bigger athletic budget, which seems to be a positive in conference realignment.)

And, it is estimated that the sports at UConn, outside of football, and men's and women's basketball lose $12 to $15 million per year. This is the problem at all schools, not just UConn. Title IX requires you to have equal men's and women's athletic scholarships which is an expense that generates little revenue. Non-revenue sports can be cut to reduce the subsidy.

One other point. UConn is "required" to play basketball games at the XL Center. This hurts UConn's athletics budget by decreasing revenues and increasing expenses in comparison to playing games at Gampel. It's pretty clear that UConn plays at the XL Center for political and not financial reasons, but should UConn be subsidizing the XL Center?

The above are the facts and show the UConn athletics finances are not as bad as Nelson says, but they still require a subsidy. The Big East money rolling off is another headwind, but that is why Benedict was hired as AD as he needs to figure out where to get more revenues.

Probably the sport with the biggest upside from today, is football. Going forward, the team looks improved and the home schedule is improving with schools like BC, Syracuse, Virginia, and Missouri in the next few years. I think football attendance and revenues are set to improve going forward. And having a competitive football team is the only way to a possible P5 invite and increased revenues.
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Is it possible that intramural and rec services are included in the athletic department budget at UConn because they utilize the athletic department facilities?
 
FDNY99 said:
Is it possible that intramural and rec services are included in the athletic department budget at UConn because they utilize the athletic department facilities?
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Maybe. It may be hard to separate/allocate the costs or it could be more efficient to manage them under the AD.
 
UConnJim said:
Maybe. It may be hard to separate/allocate the costs or it could be more efficient to manage them under the AD.
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I can see it being easier to manage them under the athletic department since they utilize so many of the ad's facilities.
 
The sport with the most revenue upside is football- more room for attendance growth, tv revenue and bowl game revenue as well as its part in apparel sales. Basketball can improve on attendance and UCONN fans travel, but NCAA tournament games don't line UCONN's pockets. Not sure of the revenue upside attributable to baseball, hockey, etc, but this is the business answer. A P5 invitation is the proverbial medicinal elixir to the budget issues.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Again. And again and again and again. Sigh.
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I'm OK with briefly suspending disbelief for the sake of conversation, but MH3 is literally grouping random teams together today and labeling them conferences. I don't know what's worse, the hours he probably spent tweeting this total horse**** or the minutes I just spent reading it. Dear God I know the answer.
 
UConnJim said:
Careful with your analysis. The latest financials have said football, and men's and women's basketball make money after you allocate the Nike and conference revenues to each sport. Not all of the analysis that I have seen does this. (Men's hockey may be close to break even now with the move to HE, but I don't know the #s.) Also, there are two budget line items that don't necessarily show up in other schools' budgets: the cost of scholarships and student intramural and recreation costs.

Let's first look at scholarship costs as it is included in some schools profit analysis and not in others. It is estimated that athletic scholarships cost UConn about $14 million per year. Of this, I estimate that $4 million+ of this expense is the difference between in-state and out-of state tuition costs (~$20k/year.) I view the $4 million additional out-of-state tuition cost as funny money that is an accounting matter, but others may want to include it.

The McKinsey report (2011) on potential cost savings and revenue enhancements at UConn estimated that the UConn athletics budget includes $9 million of student fees and costs associated with student recreational services and intramurals. In other words, $9 million (in 2011) of the "athletics subsidy" was actually student fees used for student activities, not to subsidize intercollegiate athletics. (It does allow UConn to show a bigger athletic budget, which seems to be a positive in conference realignment.)

And, it is estimated that the sports at UConn, outside of football, and men's and women's basketball lose $12 to $15 million per year. This is the problem at all schools, not just UConn. Title IX requires you to have equal men's and women's athletic scholarships which is an expense that generates little revenue. Non-revenue sports can be cut to reduce the subsidy.

One other point. UConn is "required" to play basketball games at the XL Center. This hurts UConn's athletics budget by decreasing revenues and increasing expenses in comparison to playing games at Gampel. It's pretty clear that UConn plays at the XL Center for political and not financial reasons, but should UConn be subsidizing the XL Center?

The above are the facts and show the UConn athletics finances are not as bad as Nelson says, but they still require a subsidy. The Big East money rolling off is another headwind, but that is why Benedict was hired as AD as he needs to figure out where to get more revenues.

Probably the sport with the biggest upside from today, is football. Going forward, the team looks improved and the home schedule is improving with schools like BC, Syracuse, Virginia, and Missouri in the next few years. I think football attendance and revenues are set to improve going forward. And having a competitive football team is the only way to a possible P5 invite and increased revenues.
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http://ctmirror.org/2015/11/16/uconn-ranked-third-for-sports-subsidies/

$27.2 million subsidy.

Pretending that UConn athletics is not losing what it is losing is not a strategy.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
http://ctmirror.org/2015/11/16/uconn-ranked-third-for-sports-subsidies/

$27.2 million subsidy.

Pretending that UConn athletics is not losing what it is losing is not a strategy.
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Wow, you take an article in a newspaper and take it at face value. You probably believe everything you read on the Internet is true, just like the commercial. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

Even in the article you cited, Mike Enright said take the numbers with a grain of salt. So you are going to ignore the $9+ million of the "subsidy" from students that is directly spent on student activities and not athletics? Or, ignoring that other schools don't expense scholarships.

The best numbers I have seen from 2011 indicate that UConn subsidized the athletics department by ~$6 million. I think at the time it was reported to be $15 million, but you have to subtract the $9 million for student activities and intramurals. The McKinsey report pointed this out.

You clearly have an agenda against UConn athletics and I don't think facts are going to change your mind. Yes, UConn has a deficit and it needs to be addressed, but it is not the number you are citing.
 
I am a football season ticket holder and like going to games, but i can acknowledge that spending $18mm (which is probably conservative) so 20k UConn fans can party on a runway 6 times a year is not a good use of university resources.
 
Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 10h10 hours ago
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@flugempire @Expansion_Crush @posas13 @pfac51

Omega Supreme added,

Flintdawg8208 @Odharris1
Big Ten Conference is now taking bids from the networks for its rights http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/big...g-bids-from-the-networks-for-its-rights.html… via @awfulannouncing
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Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @posas13 @pfac51 Don't be surprised if a joint Fox/ESPN bid is significantly lower than expected.

Aaron ‏@posas13 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @pfac51 Could be...not a lot of buyers...if they 'work together' they can hold prices down.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@posas13 @OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @pfac51 B1G could get a little more $ from NBC but less exposure.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@posas13 @OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @pfac51 NBC doesn't have as many slots available for broadcast too.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV Mar 20
Should @Flugempire & @mhver3 debate CFB expansion with @theDudeofWV?

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 6h6 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire @MHver3 the people have spoken... They don't care. Move on.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @flugempire @MHver3 I'm making a point of larger issue.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire @MHver3 only in YOUR mind. They are not interested. You took a poll that did not pan out your way. Move on

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@xBrainPaintx I remember you. You were one of my harshest critics regarding WVU & the SEC.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV nope... You remember wrong. Actually a fan. Who believes you more than them I only criticized you once.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx sorry then. The SEC - WVU fiasco is my prime motivating factor.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV don't turn against your FANS when they tell you they are not interested. Looks bad on you.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx By the way Josh (MHVER) admitted to @JSi07 he made stuff up.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @JSi07 When all is said and done, if you are right you will be vindicated like you were being the first I seen call the Big 12

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @JSi07 My SEC experience changed me. I cringe at the mistakes I made.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @JSi07 But I learned from them & I took responsibility for them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @JSi07 But my mistakes were honest mistakes. I was stupid & inexperienced.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @JSi07 And the mistakes I made with FSU. My own idiocy ignoring real sources for those who told me what I wanted to hear.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @JSi07 you should.... Made you better though. Worry about you and your info.. Fans care, they don't want drama with the other

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx I spend significant time answering people's questions about the veracity of what those 2 say.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV that is your choice. Report what you hear or know and take the high road. If you are right you will be proven right

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx Why? Because I remember being worried about WVU. I remember how that felt & I would rather know the truth.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx Go back and read Flugars timeline. He has attacked me since 12/14. I tried to ignore him.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV there is no try... There is only do or do not - yoda

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx Exactly. But I know those 2 personally. I know they are not honest.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx And I hope that by pointing out that Boren's mouth has jeopardized the Big 12 something can be done.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx And because I care I want them to know the truth. I want them to know where they really stand.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx One more thing. I've really come to care for the fans of BYU, UCONN, Cincy & UCF.

Zach Hedges ‏@zthedges 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @xBrainPaintx You're a good man. UC and WVU had some good times in the Big East and I'd love to see that restored.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 4h4 hours ago
@theDudeofWV take my advice or not.. Take the high road. Majority has spoken.. Ignore if you want but I suggest you listen and learn.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx I think I've made my point. An honest person wouldn't have any problem discussing expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx Advice appreciated. Yet I never expected either to accept. I hope I made my point just by challenging them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx @flugempire @MHver3 I'm making a point of larger issue.

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire @MHver3 only in YOUR mind. They are not interested. You took a poll that did not pan out your way. Move on

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx You had issues with me calling out eernation about her SEC claims when the SEC had moved on...

brainpaint ‏@xBrainPaintx 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV one time... Only because of how you acted... And you agreed with me after.. Check my to.. So. Much for harshest critic.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@xBrainPaintx Many WVU fans were disappointed about the Big 12 invitation

Matt ‏@effing_matt 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV especially after you ran with the SEC story for so long...

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@effing_matt I failed to understand that submitting the paperwork to the SEC didn't mean acceptance.


ME: Moonshine therapy, y'all.
 
I wonder why they are coming out of the closet now. They must be self-aware to know that almost no one will take these two clowns seriously after the word vomit they spewed all over Twitter in the last week. I know I don't even read their tweets anymore. They are finished now. I wonder if they got jobs or something, and can't do this anymore.
 
FDNY99 said:
The past few posts of the Dude's tweets make being banned by him=WINNING!!!
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Ha, same here, and I blocked him a long long time ago. But then again, he does have at least 2 other Twitter accounts that he used to berate people with! So pathetic.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am a football season ticket holder and like going to games, but i can acknowledge that spending $18mm (which is probably conservative) so 20k UConn fans can party on a runway 6 times a year is not a good use of university resources.
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You do realize that the $18 million in cost brings in about $19 million of revenues? Probably not.
 
Nelson - do you think UConn will ever be P5? Let's say in the next 10 years, to put a timeframe on it.
 

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