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Alabama's roster has 8 Florida kids ans 4 from anywhere in Tennessee.

Georgia's roster has 16 Florida kids....4 from Tennessee (a couple from Columbia Ms...150 miles from Memphis)

LSU's roster has 4 Florida and 3 Tennessee kids...

Ole Miss has 8 Tennessee kids...6 from Memphis...only 3 from Florida

Arkansas has 13 Florida kids...3 from Tennessee (2 from Memphis)

South Carolina has 15 from Florida...zero from Tennessee

Just from my perusal of the six SEC rosters, I'd say the the Vols are the big users of Tennessee recruits...
 
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Fishy said:
I think the strange thing in this instance would be something like UConn being invited.

I really think Memphis is just a non-starter for any major conference - forget all the problems, they're just so far below even the Big 12 academically that I think the presidents would never, ever bite.

Plus, is anyone really interested in the third-best program in Tennessee?
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I wonder whether the people touting Memphis (whoever they are) and to a lesser extent, Houston, are even listening to what Boren says. He's driving the Big XII expansion bus. He wants national exposure for OU. That's his stated goal. He isn't talking about football, he's talking about OU the university. Certainly he also wants the Big XII to survive and thrive, meaning a network. But neither Memphis nor Houston do anything to further David Boren's goals for OU. That is not the company they want to keep.
 
whaler11 said:
I've read it somewhere. Not sure how they defined the area or where I read it.
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I don't know Tennessee well, so I do not now where in the state these high schools are; but, out of 348 SEC scholarship offers/signings in the SEC in 2015 according to ESPN, 29 or 8% were from the Tennessee. 70 were from the state of Georgia or 20%. Thus, I find that statement about the value of Memphis's recruiting base to be suspicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/conference/_/class/2015/id/8
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I don't know Tennessee well, so I do not now where in the state these high schools are; but, out of 348 SEC scholarship offers/signings in the SEC in 2015 according to ESPN, 29 or 8% were from the Tennessee. 70 were from the state of Georgia or 20%. Thus, I find that statement about the value of Memphis's recruiting base to be suspicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/conference/_/class/2015/id/8
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It certainly could be. I don't know how they defined the geography, nor do I remember the time frame they looked at.

Also I'm an idiot so I could have completely misremembered whatever it is I think I read.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
I don't know Tennessee well, so I do not now where in the state these high schools are; but, out of 348 SEC scholarship offers/signings in the SEC in 2015 according to ESPN, 29 or 8% were from the Tennessee. 70 were from the state of Georgia or 20%. Thus, I find that statement about the value of Memphis's recruiting base to be suspicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/conference/_/class/2015/id/8
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Indeed. And Ole Miss is less than an hour and a half from Memphis and has more fans in the area than U Memphis does. It's pretty central really, to several SEC schools, and U Memphis landing in the Big XII wouldn't change anything with regard to recruiting the area. When Arkansas and Missouri were in the SWC & Big 12 respectively that might have been different. The SEC has walled it off pretty solidly now.
 
Isn't it usually California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania for top five, but the group rotates a bit for which ones place higher?
 
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whaler11 said:
It certainly could be. I don't know how they defined the geography, nor do I remember the time frame they looked at.

Also I'm an idiot so I could have completely misremembered whatever it is I think I read.
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No need to apologize as 1) I lost my own mid years ago & can't throw stones while living in a glass house and 2) I recall seeing people brag about how valuable Memphis area recruits are also.
 
don356 said:
I think the theory was that they should have added wvu, louisville and cincy.
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Yes. I should have been more clear. The Big 12 could have done something radical like actually have 12 schools in its conference.
 
pj said:
If they had moved a few months earlier they might have added WVU, Louisville, and Pitt.
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Yes. There were rumors about Pitt to the B12 prior to conference armageddon. Maybe they said no because they knew an ACC move was coming ahead of time. Pitt also led the way in the Big East turning down ESPN's (in retrospect) generous offer.
 
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The B12 is going to play hockey?? Well if they're interested in hockey, we would absolutely help with that. 6400 and good atmosphere for an 8:30 puck drop last night against Vermont. And I heard the game was televised in New York.
 
Dooley said:
The B12 is going to play hockey?? Well if they're interested in hockey, we would absolutely help with that. 6400 and good atmosphere for an 8:30 puck drop last night against Vermont. And I heard the game was televised in New York.
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It was on SNY in the NY tv market.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV
Are the Big 12 and PAC 12 having informal merger talks? Discuss without me. But it's a damn fine hint there.
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I can't fathom that one, but it would definitely throw everything in flux. I would imagine that they'd try to even things off at 24. If this happened I am guessing that the ACC would crap their pants.
 
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B12 needs a network and can't do it on its own; Pac12's network hasn't been super profitable, because of its isolation from 3/4 of the country. I suggested B12-ACC join to form a 2-conference network, but maybe B12-Pac is the way to do that. It gets the Pac network three time zone coverage, which gives it a chance at an East Coast audience.

Moreover, if B12 added UConn and Cincy, and there was some sort of scheduling alliance with Pac12, then they would have effectively nationwide exposure and significant penetration in the northeast.
 
Why do that and have some super championship game and really limit your odds for the playoff, unless you think they will expand to 8 teams

Yes, I could see 24, which would put teams like BYU and even New Mexico into more prominence

4 6 team divisions, so 5 games against your conference and then 4 other rotating games

huskypantz said:
I can't fathom that one, but it would definitely throw everything in flux. I would imagine that they'd try to even things off at 24. If this happened I am guessing that the ACC would crap their pants.
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A B12/PAC merge makes so much sense that it will never happen. The PAC desperately could use brands as strong as Texas and OU to help their network ratings. They also need to get exposure into more time zones. If that were to happen, then this mega-conference would have a very serious WVU problem. They are on an island and offer nothing to a PAC Network in that nobody west of WV gives a rats putoot about Mountaineer sports. Would this mega-conference be forced to add a few eastern schools in big markets (cough cough) to help push the PACN across all time zones? Or would they look to somehow kick WVU out? Maybe ESPN could offer them a soft landing spot in the ACC with another big market school (cough cough) to get to 16?

Who knows? But it's an idea that probably makes too much sense to work.
 
JSM1970 said:
Why do that and have some super championship game and really limit your odds for the playoff, unless you think they will expand to 8 teams

Yes, I could see 24, which would put teams like BYU and even New Mexico into more prominence

4 6 team divisions, so 5 games against your conference and then 4 other rotating games
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Merging conferences makes no sense, but merging conference networks makes a ton of sense. A network needs a critical mass of content and of markets. B12, Pac, and ACC don't have enough on their own. Any two of those three would. Pac owns its network so it has a lot of flexibility to do a deal.
 
The Dood is ridiculous. Clearly he'd be privy to this info before anyone else. Here's the merger that the PAC would be interested in: UT, TT, OU, and OSU. Everybody else best of luck to ya.
 
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