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whaler11 said:
Meant it in the sense they aren't going to be expensive talent under contract.

The fact they are taking out that much money further enforces my point - you aren't selling the AAC for a 500% markup to a company that is bledding 5% of it's workforce to cut expenses because the top line is shrinking.
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No question that the people most at risk are middle management and production. There has to be all sorts of redundancy (at least some moderate over lap) in an organization of 8,000, but I would not be the least bit surprised if some on-air talent get the ax (Curt Schilling is already out of favor. He seems like a no-brainer). I don't watch much SportCenter anymore, but some of those guys are a dime a dozen. Craig Kilborn and Dan Patrick are not walking through that door anymore. The likes of Bob Ley, Chris Berman (unfortunately), or Mike Tirico are probably not in any danger. That'd be like firing Mickey Mouse himself, but do you really need a 6 personal panel doing Fantasy Focus Insider on Sunday mornings? Would I be surprised if Cris Carter was let go...especially in light of his "fall guy" rant? Absolutely not.
 
Husky25 said:
No question that the people most at risk are middle management and production. There has to be all sorts of redundancy (at least some moderate over lap) in an organization of 8,000, but I would not be the least bit surprised if some on-air talent get the ax (Curt Schilling is already out of favor. He seems like a no-brainer). I don't watch much SportCenter anymore, but some of those guys are a dime a dozen. Craig Kilborn and Dan Patrick are not walking through that door anymore. The likes of Bob Ley, Chris Berman (unfortunately), or Mike Tirico are probably not in any danger. That'd be like firing Mickey Mouse himself, but do you really need a 6 personal panel doing Fantasy Focus Insider on Sunday mornings? Would I be surprised if Cris Carter was let go...especially in light of his "fall guy" rant? Absolutely not.
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Most of those guys have contracts. They don't lay them off they just don't renew them. Like they did with Simmons and Olberman.

You've already seen cost-cutting there it's just happening as deals expire and not at once.
 
whaler11 said:
Meant it in the sense they aren't going to be expensive talent under contract.

The fact they are taking out that much money further enforces my point - you aren't selling the AAC for a 500% markup to a company that is bledding 5% of it's workforce to cut expenses because the top line is shrinking.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
Unless they are making cuts so they can afford a new huge contract for the American...

cough...
snicker...
bwaah ha ha haaaa

...sorry just couldn't keep a straight face on that one.
 
whaler11 said:
Most of those guys have contracts. They don't lay them off they just don't renew them. Like they did with Simmons and Olberman.

You've already seen cost-cutting there it's just happening as deals expire and not at once.
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Contracts can be bought out. ESPN doesn't have to run them to ground and it would probably cost them little more than what they would offer in a severance package to an at-will employee (who will make up the bulk of the laid off roster).
 
What makes espn much different today is that it is all scripted and advertising. Very little original talent on air. They have their formula for delivery and can basically hire any talking head to put in front of the camera. Anyway, the 500% debate isn't really meaningful when your starting point was below what it should have been. Heck, Disney could pull a GM, fold shop at espn, get out of all those long term over priced contracts, then start up again at half price and still be the highest bidder.
 
geohusky said:
So how do all these layoffs relate to all the money the state of CT gave ESPN to create and keep jobs?
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What do you mean? are you against companies receiving tax breaks? The salaries and the money spent locally far exceeds the lost tax revenue. At least that is my take on it. Maybe someone has quantified how much espn saved in tax expense vs. how much money was pumped into the local economy. I think it would be a landslide.
 
whaler11 said:
5x the current money over a ten year deal is 1.2 billion dollars. I mean come on - that's absurd as soon as you get to the 'b'.
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That's about 10M per school. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility for viable if not must see TV games.

If the market reduces to premium games only, maybe that changes.
 
MH3 ‏@MH3 · 7h7 hours ago
Was told that if B12 were to expand today then it would be Memphis and Cincy.obviously they aren't expanding today but still

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 7h7 hours ago
Memphis offering too much financially to be overlooked.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 7h7 hours ago
Memphis has stated they will not take a cent from B12 for 5 year and will in fact buy their way in
 
I'm sorry, but there is no way Memphis takes a $100 million flyer for 5 years. It's just not sustainable for the University to forego conference-related TV, merchandise, gate etc. revenue and sustain an athletic program during that time. I don't care how big Mr. Fed Ex's pockets are. They would basically need to shutter all their non-revenue Olympic sports.

Now, if you told me that Fed Ex was prepared to sign a very lucrative 5-year sponsor deal for Big 12 sports, including a future football championship game, that is something way more believable.
 
Christopher Lambert Retweeted

E. Gordon Gee ‏@gordongee · 3h3 hours ago
Making my way to Dallas today for a meeting with other Big 12 presidents. Always look forward to seeing them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
Big 12 presidents will talk expansion in Dallas.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
http://mobile.twitter.com/gordongee/stat …
Will they talk expansion?
Of course..as I said last week the train is much further down the track than many believe
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert Retweeted

E. Gordon Gee ‏@gordongee · 3h3 hours ago
Making my way to Dallas today for a meeting with other Big 12 presidents. Always look forward to seeing them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
Big 12 presidents will talk expansion in Dallas.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
http://mobile.twitter.com/gordongee/stat …
Will they talk expansion?
Of course..as I said last week the train is much further down the track than many believe
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Dallas.

Home to SMU.

SMU plays Tulsa next week.

Tulsa's basketball coach is Frank Haith.

Haith used to coach at Mizzou.

Mizzou is playing at Rentschler Field in '17.

OMG. Guys, you know what this means?
 
Not a tweet but a rumor on Techsideline. The poster has almost 5000 posts on that board.

"I was passed on info / rumor from a reputable source that the ACC and ESPN were finalizing a new & bigger deal and would be announced before the end of football season. Is this the look-in clause from the existing contract? New channel announcement? New schools forcing a new contract?"

"It was relayed as a "huge" deal between the two
but not necessarily a channel. If not a channel, then that means more schools to me. Maybe that Wolfpack insider was correct with his ND predictions back in the winter/spring."
 
NYUConn said:
Dallas.

Home to SMU.

SMU plays Tulsa next week.

Tulsa's basketball coach is Frank Haith.

Haith used to coach at Mizzou.

Mizzou is playing at Rentschler Field in '17.

OMG. Guys, you know what this means?
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Yes, we know. Rule number 1 for CR.
 
jostar1 said:
Not a tweet but a rumor on Techsideline. The poster has almost 5000 posts on that board.

"I was passed on info / rumor from a reputable source that the ACC and ESPN were finalizing a new & bigger deal and would be announced before the end of football season. Is this the look-in clause from the existing contract? New channel announcement? New schools forcing a new contract?"

"It was relayed as a "huge" deal between the two
but not necessarily a channel. If not a channel, then that means more schools to me. Maybe that Wolfpack insider was correct with his ND predictions back in the winter/spring."
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Could be anything. Might be ND and Texas. Might be ND and Cincinnati. Could be several options, one that was eluded to in that post being the rumor that there is an extra $2 million if there is no network by a certain date. Who knows? I think the break up of the Big12 as we know it is near and the valuable pieces might be heading elsewhere. It might be something like ND and WVU to the ACC.
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert Retweeted

E. Gordon Gee ‏@gordongee · 3h3 hours ago
Making my way to Dallas today for a meeting with other Big 12 presidents. Always look forward to seeing them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3h3 hours ago
Big 12 presidents will talk expansion in Dallas.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
http://mobile.twitter.com/gordongee/stat …
Will they talk expansion?
Of course..as I said last week the train is much further down the track than many believe
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Could a single injury force the XII's hand in expansion. Baylor is down to their 2nd string QB, who happens to be a true freshman, for the rest of the season with games against K State, Oklahoma, OK State, TCU and Texas left. Ouch. If the lose once and so does TCU, the XII could easily be shut out of another season of football playoffs. If that happens, the pressure will mount to expand and/or for schools to find greener pastures.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/10/26/seth-russell-baylor-injury-jarrett-stidham

Putting aside the big picture for a moment best, wishes to Mr. Russell on speedy recovery.
 
whaler11 said:
Meant it in the sense they aren't going to be expensive talent under contract. The fact they are taking out that much money further enforces my point - you aren't selling the AAC for a 500% markup to a company that is bledding 5% of it's workforce to cut expenses because the top line is shrinking.
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Who knows. They offered to double Cowherd's salary and he still left.
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5m5 minutes ago
Big 12 presidents meeting where expansion will be discussed.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 4m4 minutes ago
There is a slight chance the Big 12 could decide to expand. Say 2%. If it did the invites would go to BYU and Memphis.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 4m4 minutes ago
Of course for Cincy and USF the 98% chance the Big 12 will do nothing should be of comfort.

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @Danoinotown I meant UCF...sorry...

Justin Friest ‏@ISUCloneKCChief · 5m5 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Jamie Pollard (ISU AD) said the other day there is a possibility of partial members (football only)

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 3m3 minutes ago
@ISUCloneKCChief I don' see that...why? Because basketball tournament points would need to offset the slight loss of dollars.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2m2 minutes ago
I get the vibe that the run by Memphis might push the Big 12 to act.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1m1 minute ago
Here's some keys for you to watch. If the Big 12 says anything about expansion then they couldn't agree.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1m1 minute ago
If they say nothing...then something happened.
 

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