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Something must be brewing, because I'm not sure we've ever done enough to be lumped with any of those schools. BYU has been successful for a while, Cincy has consistently been very good, Notre Dame is Notre Dame, and Army has one of the best histories in the sport.

One of these things is not like the other, quite frankly. Even though I am very optimistic after the Missouri game that this team is a year away from being very good.
 
I think I read somewhere that the B1G looked back at UConn's schedules for the past 5 or so seasons. That would include the Fiesta Bowl year (barely).

As a BCS member, UConn was very successful/competitive and every bit as worthy as being labelled as a "Power" team as many grandfathered programs. It's a tough sell to continue to call programs like Kansas, Wake, Syracuse, etc "power" programs, then add Army as a "power" and not include UConn when you factor in what the program has done pre-Pasqualoni and how many players we put in the NFL.
 
tzznandrew said:
Something must be brewing, because I'm not sure we've ever done enough to be lumped with any of those schools. BYU has been successful for a while, Cincy has consistently been very good, Notre Dame is Notre Dame, and Army has one of the best histories in the sport.

One of these things is not like the other, quite frankly. Even though I am very optimistic after the Missouri game that this team is a year away from being very good.
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I guess I need to make some assumptions here. Did they just address non P5 schools which are currently on the B1G schedule and not other non P5 schools? For example, is it the case that Navy is not on the B1G schedule but would also be considered if it were on the schedule? My point is, during this period of transition, there are probably other worthy programs and it's not as if UCONN is just 1 of 5. Or I could be wrong.
 
I think I just figured out why Navy isn't on the list: Maryland.

I bet the B1G left Navy off to discourage Maryland from setting up an annual, trophy game with them, thus giving them an automatic P5 match up on the calendar every year. Either that or the rest of the league objected to it on those grounds.

Either way, I bet you Navy was left off because of the Maryland addition.
 
don356 said:
Unfortunately i think it's just recognition of the fact that the fball schedule is made well in advance of the actual games.
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Yeah, I think its probably that simple. I would bet the B1G would approve Navy if someone sought to add them to the schedule. Especially if someone is short a game in the near future and Navy was the best of a limited set of options.

The good thing here is the clouds over our future B1G games have lifted....for now.
 
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Drew said:
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 56s56 seconds ago
Greg Flugaur retweeted Brett McMurphy

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/646338104714903552… As I've said..B10 thinks very highly of UCONN.May not have top FB brand...but it doesn't matter. Relationship tight

Greg Flugaur added,

Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
BYU, Army, Notre Dame, Cincinnati & UConn will count toward Big 10’s requirement of playing 1 non-league Power 5 opponent, source told @ESPN
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That is GREAT news for scheduling. Should help us with other leagues too.
 
I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
 
Fishy said:
I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
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McMurphy's article: http://espn.go.com/college-football...tre-dame-cincinnati-uconn-nonconference-quota

Clearly states that only UConn, Cincinnati, and Navy from the AAC count and that the rest of the AAC does NOT. Very clear distinction from UCF, USF, Houston, and the others who've been floated as other expansion targets. Perhaps that has more to do with geography since UConn and Cincinnati are close to the B1G geographic footprint. It'd be interesting to see if the B12 adopts this, and if the SEC/ACC create similar lists, whether the southern AAC schools are on it. That will be very telling.
 
Fishy said:
I think there may be more good news here than meets the eye.

First, it's a no-brainer. How many power 5 schools have UConn and Cincinnati beaten over the past ten years? They actually were power conference schools two years ago and both are huge athletic departments relative to the G5. It would have been ridiculous to lump those two schools in with UMass, etc.

Second, there clearly seems to be a pecking order. South Florida has two games scheduled against Illinois and they're not mentioned as receiving a waiver.

Third, this will help legitimize the program to some recruits and it will help scheduling if they can leverage this with other conferences.

All good.
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Fishy is this you?
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Clearly states that only UConn, Cincinnati, and Navy from the AAC count and that the rest of the AAC does NOT. Very clear distinction from UCF, USF, Houston, and the others who've been floated as other expansion targets. Perhaps that has more to do with geography since UConn and Cincinnati are close to the B1G geographic footprint. It'd be interesting to see if the B12 adopts this, and if the SEC/ACC create similar lists, whether the southern AAC schools are on it. That will be very telling.
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The article states that they will evaluate other schools in the AAC as they're proposed by the members. Given that South Florida is scheduled to play two games against Illinois and that Illinois has not been granted a waiver, it seems pretty clear that USF has been diminished. I don't think footprint means anything - Temple is in the footprint and is scheduled to play Penn State, Maryland and Rutgers. They got nada.

I would doubt that the ACC will offer UConn any kind of legitimacy - that flies in the face of a decade-plus of advanced conference warfare. But maybe this helps there.

On the other conferences...the SEC likely does not care (now) and the Big 12 and Pac 12 have no such restrictions on scheduling.
 
Drew said:
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 56s56 seconds ago
Greg Flugaur retweeted Brett McMurphy

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/646338104714903552… As I've said..B10 thinks very highly of UCONN.May not have top FB brand...but it doesn't matter. Relationship tight

Greg Flugaur added,

Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
BYU, Army, Notre Dame, Cincinnati & UConn will count toward Big 10’s requirement of playing 1 non-league Power 5 opponent, source told @ESPN
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I assume Navy will count also as they are in the same league as UConn and a deep history in football (and can kick Army's arse!).
 
Keep Charging On ‏@UChrisF · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire UConn and Cinci are only on there because Indiana already had games scheduled and B1G is letting them keep them.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
@UChrisF B1G would let them keep them without the status of "P5"...that is not the reason.

Keep Charging On ‏@UChrisF · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire no no no. I like you and your information but stop trying to blow it out of context.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
@UChrisF http://espn.go.com/college-football...roves-byu-army-notre-dame-nonconference-quota …

Wrong.
UCONN and CINCY are not just exceptions because of current schedule. Read the article

Keep Charging On ‏@UChrisF · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire you're REALLY trying to use Brett and ESPN as a source? Notice how they're separated by paragraph. Means 2nd paragraph is rumo

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
Some AAC schools will be considered P5 games....some will not. Case by case. B10 will make decisions and take requests.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
But if Minnesota scheduled a game vs UCONN for 2025 the game would be considered a P5 game. But for now not vs Memphis.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
To say that UCONN and CINCY are only be included as P5 games because they are on future B1G schedules is inaccurate.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
It's probably a good time to remind everyone UCONN & CINCY Revenues for 2014 are the only 2 G5 schools higher than at least 1 P5 school.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
I'm not sure if that played a part in the B1G decision or not....but it could have as part of a comprehensive metric

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@UChrisF
The guy is wrong.
Minnesota can schedule UCONN as a P5 game in the future...UCONN status as P5 is not just for Indiana

Keep Charging On ‏@UChrisF · 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire OK. Whatever you say. Keep reading things so you sound correct. Cheers.

Keep Charging On ‏@UChrisF · 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire if that's the case, Minnesota could go and schedule Utah State and consider them P5.

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @UChrisF No it's not the case. Big Ten would have to ok it. But UCONN has been ok'd.
I have no idea what your problem is...but get a grip

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 35m35 minutes ago
@UChrisF You choose not to believe....and I have no idea why you are so butt hurt by this designation. It doesn't hurt UCF bid for B12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 39m39 minutes ago
@UChrisF http://espn.go.com/college-football...tre-dame-cincinnati-uconn-nonconference-quota …

3rd time I've posted it. It will be on BTN tonight at 5. Not a one time designation for CINCY and UCONN.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
B1G and UCONN have a growing relationship...this is the truth. Sorry..it just is.

Do you know what it takes to get a road HCKY game @MINN?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
Do you know that every College HCKY program in the nation wants to play @ Minnesota Golden Gophers Marricui Arena?
UCONN is here January 1st
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Damned if this stuff doesn't just feed my hope machine a little bit. I suspect my grey hair will turn brown again if we ever get out of this conference purgatory.
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His point about getting a game at Minnesota is total garbage, they're in the Mariucci Classic. It's a lower-level imvitation tournament that last year consisted of Ferris State, RPI, and Colgate. It's not hard to get Minnesota to play you at home, much less in their tournament. If UConn got a home and home with Minnesota, then it'd be slightly different. Playing in this tournament, on its own, foreshadows absolutely nothing about conference realignment.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
His point about getting a game at Minnesota is total garbage, they're in the Mariucci Classic. It's a lower-level imvitation tournament that last year consisted of Ferris State, RPI, and Colgate. It's not hard to get Minnesota to play you at home, much less in their tournament. If UConn got a home and home with Minnesota, then it'd be slightly different. Playing in this tournament, on its own, foreshadows absolutely nothing about conference realignment.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
...or does it?
 
I love how indignant the MWC blog is about this:

Apparently they forgot that UConn had Boise State on the ropes through nearly 3 quarters last year at home before we let them slip away.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Boise should try not being located in Boise before they complain.
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And perhaps not being a glorified community college that sucks at everything but football. The take away here is that football matters...if you are a flagship state university with a strong track record of success in other sports, strong academics, and a location in an useful market.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
Do you know that every College HCKY program in the nation wants to play @ Minnesota Golden Gophers Marricui Arena?
UCONN is here January 1st

Stefe ‏@slurpee387 · 57m57 minutes ago
@flugempire so does this mean Ferris State, RPI and Colgate are also going to join the B1G bc they played the goofs in the Mariucci Classic?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 47m47 minutes ago
@slurpee387 Did I say UCONN was going to join B10 once?
Nope.
I only mentioned it b/c UCONN has tighten its B1G relationship over last 5 yrs

Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @slurpee387 It's takes a lot of talking...a building relationship to get an invite to Mariucci in any manner or form.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 46m46 minutes ago
@slurpee387 Ferris State/Colgate/RPI have all played Gophers in the past...but Uconn has a new building relationship was my point

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 46m46 minutes ago
If you want a simple way to get people upset with you on Twitter just say something positive about UCONN in relationship with P5 Powers :)
 
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Wonder what the B1G's play is in this. Are they doing it to create an "affiliate" network beyond their league?
 
I have to agree with the Flugs on his last point. There are lots of grumpy fools out there that are bitter over the news about UConn and the B1G scheduling. Nobody said a peep when Notre Dame, BYU (AND ARMY!) were declared power schools. But now that UConn is in the B1G club, all of the folks that are worried that UConn is getting some momentum again can't help themselves to take their stupid, uninformed shots.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Wonder what the B1G's play is in this. Are they doing it to create an "affiliate" network beyond their league?
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It is strange, right? BYU and Notre Dame make sense cause they are strong independent programs with a history of success. Army and Navy, sure you should reward your schools for playing the service academies, it's good for America (and the academies recruiting footprint).

But UConn and Cincy are strange. At first blush you say, well they were BCS teams in the last decade and have shown a recent history of success. But so did Boise State, Hawaii, UCF and Northern Illinois.

UConn you say that maybe they are laying the groundwork for eventual admission into the conference, but there is no way that Cincy would ever join the B1G so if you're packaging them with UConn to give you cover why exclude Boise and UCF?

It's tough not to look at this move independent of any tea leaf reading because it's really so bizarre.
 
You have to keep in perspective this is the b10 only saying this due to their internal rule. Ultimately, other than osu and msu right now, those other teams have to find non conference game with opponents who they have a chance to compete with, and the matchups are efficient in terms of travel, etc., and have some fan interest A lot of aac schools fit the bills for those types of opponents, and can bring fans as well. As we have seen, the b10 is not the sec, not even close from top to bottom. This is where the 64 team power scenario has a big flaw, it needs more content, and more balance. That will become even more crucial as these network tv deals melt away. It's happening, it's just a case of timing.
 
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Dooley said:
I have to agree with the Flugs on his last point. There are lots of grumpy fools out there that are bitter over the news about UConn and the B1G scheduling. Nobody said a peep when Notre Dame, BYU (AND ARMY!) were declared power schools. But now that UConn is in the B1G club, all of the folks that are worried that UConn is getting some momentum again can't help themselves to take their stupid, uninformed shots.
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It's jealousy. For now and the last few years everyone can point and snicker at our conference, but now the worry is starting to creep into some minds that UConn may soon hit the Powerball jackpot with their conference upgrade while others settled for whatever life raft to the ACC or SEC was throw their way at the time of conference musical chairs. At the end of the day, the teams that were able to secure a chair still aren't winning anything. They just have a wider audience to watch them not win anything. UConn can at least point to winning titles in a major sport that people actually care about, and if they can get into the B1G, I doubt it's very long before they are at least middle of the pack in football - hell they probably aren't far from being competitive with the bottom half of the B1G now.
 
HuskyHawk said:
And perhaps not being a glorified community college that sucks at everything but football. The take away here is that football matters...if you are a flagship state university with a strong track record of success in other sports, strong academics, and a location in an useful market.
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I think the takeaway is this - you need to be a university first ( not a community college football factory with a university facade ), you need to have big boy budget, and you need to be appealing in some way for member schools to schedule.
 
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