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[BlueandOG]

One of the worst ever is harsh. Guy did make a bowl. USF just fired a guy who was way worse. Edsall 2.0 was exponentially worse.

You are out of your mind. He was not one of the worst - he was THE WORST. Warde piloted the Enola Gay and dropped Little Boy Diaco on our athletic department. The nuclear fallout almost killed all sports. Thank goodness Benedict arrived, made a few key decisions (and a bad one or two, but not nuclear) and brought us back.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

So is this board officially just a discussion of other schools' conference alignments?

 

[metsfan2323]

There is nothing Oregon State and Washington State can do to keep the PAC 12 as a power conference. Even if Stanford and Cal remain in the PAC, it is still not conceivable to be a power conference with any combination of Group of 5 schools plus those 4 (or 2).

IMO if the 4 remaining PAC schools stayed together, they would have a chance at retaining power status (threaten lawsuit and add the best of the MWC and AAC), which is why everything will be done to find Cal/Stanford a P4 landing spot.

ESPN wants to keep Apple out of the college football power conference business.

 

[noeynox]

IMO if the 4 remaining PAC schools stayed together, they would have a chance at retaining power status (threaten lawsuit and add the best of the MWC and AAC), which is why everything will be done to find Cal/Stanford a P4 landing spot.

ESPN wants to keep Apple out of the college football power conference business.

Apple could make it worth their while to stay together and Cherry pick teams at a discount to fill out the conference.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

IMO if the 4 remaining PAC schools stayed together, they would have a chance at retaining power status (threaten lawsuit and add the best of the MWC and AAC), which is why everything will be done to find Cal/Stanford a P4 landing spot.

ESPN wants to keep Apple out of the college football power conference business.

No other conference with maybe the exception of the some of the guilty conscience traditionalist in B1G wants to see the PAC survive The ESPN Fox , ACC , B12 all have a vested interest in their destruction . The reasons are a little different
The conferences don’t want another mouth to feed or someone who could get stronger and hurt them in the future
The media guys are petrified by the thought of a giant like Apple or Amazon entering the and effecting their game,
Cal , Stanford and even SMU will land somewhere and OSU and WSU will join UConn, and USF
as victims of CR ,

 

[metsfan2323]

Apple could make it worth their while to stay together and Cherry pick teams at a discount to fill out the conference.

It's definitely what we UConn fans should be hoping for, we need competition in the marketplace. Heck, if we were to win 8 games this year maybe we get a football only invite to the Apple league.

Cal
Stanford
Oregon State
Washington St
Boise State
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Colorado State
Memphis
Temple
South Florida
UConn

Since it would help UConn it has no chance of happening.

 

[TheDrifter75]

No other conference with maybe the exception of the some of the guilty conscience traditionalist in B1G wants to see the PAC survive The ESPN Fox , ACC , B12 all have a vested interest in their destruction . The reasons are a little different
The conferences don’t want another mouth to feed or someone who could get stronger and hurt them in the future
The media guys are petrified by the thought of a giant like Apple or Amazon entering the and effecting their game,
Cal , Stanford and even SMU will land somewhere and OSU and WSU will join UConn, and USF
as victims of CR ,

I did not say what is stated under my handle in your post.

 

[bendm]

It's definitely what we UConn fans should be hoping for, we need competition in the marketplace. Heck, if we were to win 8 games this year maybe we get a football only invite to the Apple league.

Cal
Stanford
Oregon State
Washington St
Boise State
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Colorado State
Memphis
Temple
South Florida
UConn

Since it would help UConn it has no chance of happening.

UConn isnt an attractive add as football only, especially if Aresco is the commish. they should and would insist on us joining as full members, which we would not

 

[Nostical]

Can you imagine the FSU/ACC blogospheres exploding if FSU beats LSU Sunday night?

 

[Nostical]

Yeah- the national damage of our “budget minded” approach during this era has really become apparent at this critical hour.

Yup. It underscores the “football doesn’t matter as much in the Northeast” talking point. Even if you couple an AD who gets it, the powers that be would rather pay less for the retread coach and not pour money into the program generally. Despite all the missteps and Lucy football kicks in the groin, If there ever was a last chance moment to change our future we’re at it. We need the leadership, the dollars and a shifting of the celestial stars to converge. Praying might help too.

 

[upstater]

I believe the ACC's long-term survival depends on ND. Thus, based on history the ACC is doomed.

Blindly, I like the ACC more than the Big12. But I have to admit, I think I'm wrong based on this panic move add of SMU, Stanford and Cal.

This is a self-inflicted mindless wound that says the ACC is dead, probably around the year 2034.

 

[billybud]

In the year 2035, if football is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find

That the media will shake their giant head
And either say I'm pleased where football has been
Or tear it down, and start again

 

[CL82]

Yup. It underscores the “football doesn’t matter as much in the Northeast” talking point. Even if you couple an AD who gets it, the powers that be would rather pay less for the retread coach and not pour money into the program generally. Despite all the missteps and Lucy football kicks in the groin, If there ever was a last chance moment to change our future we’re at it. We need the leadership, the dollars and a shifting of the celestial stars to converge. Praying might help too.

And beating a bunch of P5 schools in football wouldn't hurt either. Let's start with NC State.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[LoyalFanCT]

It has yet to be brought to a courtroom. Most contracts are described as "solid."

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[bendm]

good. slip away. i hate it. better solution:
1) the PAC 4 sticks together
2) SMU, Rice, Tulane, and Memphis join in 2024
3) fire kliavkoff and hire aresco
4) SDSU, Boise, UNLV, CSU join in 2025 (when MW exit fee gets cut in half)

New PAC12 has 3 pods of 4 teams:
Pacific pod = wazzu / osu / cal / stanford
Mountain pod = Boise / SDSU / UNLV / CSU
Central pod = SMU / rice / tulane / memphis

it's not worthy of being a power conference but it would undoubtedly be the best of the new "group of 6" and therefore the winner would still get into the CFP every year.

it also has the following markets: SF, San Diego, Vegas, Denver, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans, Memphis

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It has yet to be brought to a courtroom. Most contracts are described as "solid."

True, but in nearly all cases contracts are terminated by a financial settlement. The financial settlement on terminating the ACC's GOR could be massive. This is why no school has yet attempted to buy their way out.

 

[Exit 4]

Yeah, our fan base is kicking but.

 

[mike012]

Ouch so NY team and New Englands team will have to play some major tournaments in Dallas.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Ouch so NY team and New Englands team will have to play some major tournaments in Dallas.

It's like an extra hour on a plane. Not that big of a deal. Raleigh to Boston is a little over 2 hours and to Dallas it's a little over 3.

 

[Fishy]

It has yet to be brought to a courtroom. Most contracts are described as "solid."

The fact that no one has tried to bring it to a courtroom is telling.

 

[Chuck]

It's like an extra hour on a plane. Not that big of a deal. Raleigh to Boston is a little over 2 hours and to Dallas it's a little over 3.

But this will be their "home games!" Unless it's just Stanford and Cal that will be forced to move their home games to Dallas, but will have to travel to the ACC schools for away games.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[LoyalFanCT]

One way or another spaces may open up soon at the ACC. Perhaps UConn can land there.

 

[JeepCSC]

FSU and Clemson have been the WVU twitterati’s dream since 2012. Considering the BXII’s next media contract will start below where the ACC’s was a few years ago, this just seems like nonsense.

 

[WrenchFan69]

My top 2 targets for my next girlfriend are Margot Robbie and Kendall Jenner

 

[FfldCntyFan]

FSU and Clemson have been the WVU twitterati’s dream since 2012. Considering the BXII’s next media contract will start below where the ACC’s was a few years ago, this just seems like nonsense.

The WVU twitterati actually believe that there are people outside of that state who actually give a about WVU and their athletic programs. The state is poor, sparsely populated held in less than high esteem by many surrounding states. Not a good combination if you want to draw interest from power conferences.

The gripes that FSU and Clemson have are a) in the near term, B-12 schools will esrn more media revenue than their ACC counterparts b) in a half dozen years the B-12 will be in position to take their media contract to market where they again could potentially exceed ACC revenues per school (not a guarantee but absolutely a concern) and c) B-12 schools will be able to prostitute themselves to the SEC and B1G a half dozen years before ACC schools can.

Neither one of these schools is going to attempt to buy their way out of the ACC's GOR just to be able to play WVU every year. I personally believe that FSU and Clemson are still kicking themselves for not jumping to the B-12 a decade ago (where they could have had a long stretch with Texas and Oklahoma as conference mates) when the offer was there. To make things worse, they also signed on to a two plus decade prison term when they decided to stay in the ACC.

 

[JeepCSC]

A) is wrong though. The ACC made about $31m in 2022 in media rights. The new Big XII will average $31.4m for 6 years (presumably crossing that threshold in 2028). Basically 6 years behind the ACC contract.

B) I honestly think is less of a concern. ESPN had pac money set aside that wasn’t spent in 2022. They used it to shore up the BXII. That won’t be the case in 2030. Instead the BXII will be going to open market with a handful of G5 schools in the East and BYU/Utah in the West and the rump of the old Big XII in the middle. ESPN would find it cheaper to send Ok St, Kansas, Arizona, TCU to the ACC than pay $150+m for Central Florida, Colorado, Cincinnati, and BYU.

I also think Clemson has been fine with the on-field run this past decade and aren’t pining away for more Oklahoma regular-season matchups. They simply want money. It’s the B10 and SEC they dream about, not the BXII.

 

[upstater]

A) is wrong though. The ACC made about $31m in 2022 in media rights. The new Big XII will average $31.4m for 6 years (presumably crossing that threshold in 2028). Basically 6 years behind the ACC contract.

B) I honestly think is less of a concern. ESPN had pac money set aside that wasn’t spent in 2022. They used it to shore up the BXII. That won’t be the case in 2030. Instead the BXII will be going to open market with a handful of G5 schools in the East and BYU/Utah in the West and the rump of the old Big XII in the middle. ESPN would find it cheaper to send Ok St, Kansas, Arizona, TCU to the ACC than pay $150+m for Central Florida, Colorado, Cincinnati, and BYU.

I also think Clemson has been fine with the on-field run this past decade and aren’t pining away for more Oklahoma regular-season matchups. They simply want money. It’s the B10 and SEC they dream about, not the BXII.

I'm very convinced by your argument and would've agreed totally a week ago...

...if the ACC hadn't just committed the ultimate crazy panic move. It's been a few days since the news of ACC expansion has come through, and I still can't believe it happened.