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[FfldCntyFan]

A B12 league with those teams would clearly be #3 ahead of the PAC and ACC overall, and #1 in bball.

Yeah, but on huge point is basketball doesn't mean a whe lot in comparison to football. This has kind of been the point the past couple of decades

 

[CL82]

Yeah, but on huge point is basketball doesn't mean a whe lot in comparison to football. This has kind of been the point the past couple of decades

It has been, but the only available incremental improvement to conference value will soon be, if it isn’t already, fan base size, fan base enthusiasm, and to a certain extent, basketball success.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[coachcap]

If that's the case:
BigXII: "Would you..."
Appropriate AD Dave responses:
"In a heartbeat!"
"You had me at hello..."
"Yes, Yes, a 1000x YES!"
"I thought you'd never ask!"

 

[Hoophound]

I can’t see how we don’t get a home for UConn football in the B12 if this happens. It makes too much sense to play a handful B12 football games in the northeast if you are going to play a ton of basketball there. It would be a huge missed opportunity.

 

[Luna]

A interesting thought… we are certainly putting our selfs in a good position with the way our basketball and football have preformed lately… if the offer includes football I would take a serious look at joining the big 12

 

[billybud]

UConn Sports Revenue....click on UConn icon...I was surprised that total revenue surpassed that of Cincinnati...Cincy's basketball operating expense was a fraction of UConn's while they expended more in football....

Sportico’s Intercollegiate Finance Database

Sportico is maintaining an interactive, real-time database that tracks the official balance sheets of public FBS university athletic departments.

www.sportico.com

 

[Kolumbo]

If that's the case:
BigXII: "Would you..."
Appropriate AD Dave responses:
"In a heartbeat!"
"You had me at hello..."
"Yes, Yes, a 1000x YES!"
"I thought you'd never ask!"

I'll Take It!!!

 

[Ldandy]

I'm pretty sure that this is the same tripe that MH ver or some other kook was peddling earlier in the week, but playing along I'm not sure how this makes an ounce of sense considering that The Big East has a substantial buyout penalty. The only way this works is if you are offered actual membership in the conference with eventual full share and a home for football.

 

[Storrs South]

I'm pretty sure that this is the same tripe that MH ver or some other kook was peddling earlier in the week, but playing along I'm not sure how this makes an ounce of sense considering that The Big East has a substantial buyout penalty. The only way this works is if you are offered actual membership in the conference with eventual full share and a home for football.

Yes the buyout from the Big East before 2026 is $30 million dropping to $15 million thereafter.

I don't think UConn is leaving the Big East to go from $4 million to $10 million in TV money annually which is probably what a Basketball only offering in the Big 12 would be at best.

It's a slightly different calculus for Gonzaga since they currently have all the leverage in that league as they get an unequal balance of WCC tourney credits ($1.2 mill annually) but a tiny tv contract and a much weaker basketball league compared to the Big East. The buy out is likely also miniscule because of the leverage they've exploited v. the WCC.

 

[noeynox]

Yes the buyout from the Big East before 2026 is $30 million dropping to $15 million thereafter.

I don't think UConn is leaving the Big East to go from $4 million to $10 million in TV money annually which is probably what a Basketball only offering in the Big 12 would be at best.

It's a slightly different calculus for Gonzaga since they currently have all the leverage in that league as they get an unequal balance of WCC tourney credits ($1.2 mill annually) but a tiny tv contract and a much weaker basketball league compared to the Big East. The buy out is likely also miniscule because of the leverage they've exploited v. the WCC.

In 3 years at 10 million you've covered the buyout. BUT the buyout could be negotiated down or the Big 12 could help with it, or it could have X number of football games attached to the agreement. Just saying there could be a lot of variables that could factor in such a scenario. It's not a slam dunk no.

 

[Husky92]

I'm pretty sure that this is the same tripe that MH ver or some other kook was peddling earlier in the week, but playing along I'm not sure how this makes an ounce of sense considering that The Big East has a substantial buyout penalty. The only way this works is if you are offered actual membership in the conference with eventual full share and a home for football.

I’m assuming the ONLY way we are considering this is if we are going with football AND basketball with eventual full membership (if not starting that way). We are not leaving the Big East for partial payouts or partial participation.

 

[Stinger92860]

Yes the buyout from the Big East before 2026 is $30 million dropping to $15 million thereafter.

I don't think UConn is leaving the Big East to go from $4 million to $10 million in TV money annually which is probably what a Basketball only offering in the Big 12 would be at best.

Getting way over the tips of my skis…

If a simple majority of the BE were to join the B12 for basketball, would a buyout even be needed? Football is Indy, and if we move with the rest of the BE, this could negate any buyout.

 

[Ha Who]

I’m assuming the ONLY way we are considering this is if we are going with football AND basketball with eventual full membership (if not starting that way). We are not leaving the Big East for partial payouts or partial participation.

Definitely. Look at Pitt’s recruiting post Big East.

 

[Storrs South]

In 3 years at 10 million you've covered the buyout. BUT the buyout could be negotiated down or the Big 12 could help with it, or it could have X number of football games attached to the agreement. Just saying there could be a lot of variables that could factor in such a scenario. It's not a slam dunk no.

UConn makes about $4 million today so it's really only an increase of $6 million YOY to get to 10. So only the new $6 is going towards paying down the buyout. Then you have to factor in additional travel costs. Probably costs an extra million or two, so now it's only an increase of $4 million. In the realm of the University of Connecticut that is a billion dollar entity and college athletics in general it's not much of a difference.

 

[Luna]

UConn makes about $4 million today so it's really only an increase of $6 million YOY to get to 10. So only the new $6 is going towards paying down the buyout. Then you have to factor in additional travel costs. Probably costs an extra million or two, so now it's only an increase of $4 million. In the realm of the University of Connecticut that is a billion dollar entity and college athletics in general it's not much of a difference.

The big east will be making more then 4 million in 2025

 

[Storrs South]

The big east will be making more then 4 million in 2025

Exactly. I think the minimum Big 12 would need to offer here is 15 million minimum to make it remotely worthwhile for UConn. Especially factoring in challenges it will present UConn in recruiting and such.

 

[Luna]

Ya.. it’s pretty cool now… our teams take bus rides to at least three games maybe more…plus the big east tournament… mens and women’s… plus all the non revenue sports… that’s got to be quite a bit of money savings

 

[jostar1]

MH ver3@MH ver3
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7h
Also Dodds confirms there has been interest from both sides between the four corners and B12. Something that should (but won’t) shut up a lot of the naysayers.


MH ver3@MH ver3
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5h
Yormark envisions basketball revenue to double for some conferences like B10 and ACC over the next 5 years as live tv becomes more and more important to networks.


MH ver3@MH ver3
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5h
Yormark is trying to broker a future B10/B12 Challenge with Fox and the B10 in basketball. Warren leaving kind of out a pause on that until his replacement is identified.


MH ver3@MH ver3
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17m
Any Big East basketball fans on here? Just curious what your thoughts are on what would happen if two founding members and one on-again off-again member does indeed get invited to join the Big12 to pair with Gonzaga as non-football members?


Hall Ball@SHUWalshgym
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10m
Replying to @MH ver3
I can’t see any members of the Big 12 agreeing to share revenues with basketball only institutions.



MH ver3@MH ver3
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7m
Replying to @SHUWalshgym
They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory.

 

[CL82]

If that's the case:
BigXII: "Would you..."
Appropriate AD Dave responses:
"In a heartbeat!"
"You had me at hello..."
"Yes, Yes, a 1000x YES!"
"I thought you'd never ask!"

Perhaps, but what he be thinking, is “sure, if no one else asks.”

 

[Luna]

MH ver3@MH ver3
·
7h
Also Dodds confirms there has been interest from both sides between the four corners and B12. Something that should (but won’t) shut up a lot of the naysayers.


MH ver3@MH ver3
·
5h
Yormark envisions basketball revenue to double for some conferences like B10 and ACC over the next 5 years as live tv becomes more and more important to networks.


MH ver3@MH ver3
·
5h
Yormark is trying to broker a future B10/B12 Challenge with Fox and the B10 in basketball. Warren leaving kind of out a pause on that until his replacement is identified.


MH ver3@MH ver3
·
17m
Any Big East basketball fans on here? Just curious what your thoughts are on what would happen if two founding members and one on-again off-again member does indeed get invited to join the Big12 to pair with Gonzaga as non-football members?


Hall Ball@SHUWalshgym
·
10m
Replying to @MH ver3
I can’t see any members of the Big 12 agreeing to share revenues with basketball only institutions.



MH ver3@MH ver3
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7m
Replying to @SHUWalshgym
They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory.

I doubt any big east schools will want to go over to the big12

 

[WestHartHusk]

I can think of 1…

I doubt any big east schools will want to go over to the big12…

 

[ScottVib]

If the price is only $7-$8M per basketball school I don't think you're likely to see any Big East school jump.. unless the new Big East TV deal is much lower than speculated.

 

[Luna]

If the price is only $7-$8M per basketball school I don't think you're likely to see any Big East school jump.. unless the new Big East TV deal is much lower than speculated.

You never know…but I’m guessing the big east tv deal will be between 7 and 9 million a year per school

 

[CL82]

Yes the buyout from the Big East before 2026 is $30 million dropping to $15 million thereafter.

$15 million will be for 2027 and 2028 Thereafter the exit fee will drop to $10 million.