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[Stinger92860]

If the playoffs expands it won’t be done to the favor of a 13-0 UCF team it’ll be done to the favor of a 9-4 LSU, Georgia, Michigan St team.

That requires 16 and more $. Start the first weekend after finals.

 

[SubbaBub]

The flaw in college football rankings is and always has been sample size. To cover for this every single ranking system and pollster over values OOC buy games. The SEC as a conference plays maybe 5 or 6 legit games OOC, the rest are fodder. So when we talk about how great they are we are talking about a padded resume.

The failing is over valuing and attempting to parse Teams 11-60 using a too small sample size. Teams like Cincy, Memphis, USF are just as good as the middle of every other P5 conference. The difference is at the top. The bottom is is irrelevant. Beating UConn is no differnet than beating Rutgers, Ole Miss, Kansas, or Oregon State, ywt the P5 gets more credit for it.

At the top, the SEC has 2-3 legit teams, the B1G (2), the ACC, B12, P12 only 1 most years. Add ND if they are actually good like this year and those are the only games that matter, except for upsets like Purdue over OSU.

This year Bama is such head and shoulders better that you really have no idea how good Georgia and LSU are but they had their shot. Mich and OSU will settle it but OSU slipped up this year so they carry that baggage.

Clemson is eating the ACC, they look good but again what team did they beat that UCF wouldn't be favored against?

ND and Bama have the best legit wins, Mich will if it beats OSU. Oklahoma lost to a mediocre Texas team (Baggage), Texas lost to freaking Maryland and may win the league. UCF is ahead of the entire B12 and Pac12. I don't care what Georgia and LSU have done, unless they beat Bama they cant be put ahead of a team that wins 25+ in a row. Not giving them a shot is an exercise in flimsy excuse making. Though the idiots in the South are experts in that lately.

 

[billybud]

Who, pray tell, has UCF beat this season?

Which opponent/s will be in the top 25 come end of regular season?

Don't you think that you need to beat a couple of good teams to compete with those that do?

You can rag on about the SEC OOC games...but UCF is still 50 rankings higher in SOS than Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M, Florida, etc.

It is UCF who really needs to schedule up in OOC...like any program in a conference with weak in-conference schedules.

Just like the BY BB board continually calls for upgraded OOC games for UConn basketball.

 

[The Viking]

Who, pray tell, has UCF beat this season?

Which opponent/s will be in the top 25 come end of regular season?

Don't you think that you need to beat a couple of good teams to compete with those that do?

You can rag on about the SEC OOC games...but UCF is still 50 rankings higher in SOS than Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M, Florida, etc.

It is UCF who really needs to schedule up in OOC...like any program in a conference with weak in-conference schedules.

Just like the BY BB board continually calls for upgraded OOC games for UConn basketball.

Do you think that UCF isn't trying to schedule really good teams? What good P5 teams want to play UCF?

 

[The Viking]

To me going to 8 teams, giving each P5 conference champion, the best of the G5 and then the next 2 best is the way to go.
They would still screw the AAC by giving them the 8 seed against a 1 seed Alabama so it would still seem hard to gauge a UCF squad against the #3, 4 or 5 teams lets say but still - at least that would get the G5 in the door and give them access to better recruiting.

 

[SubbaBub]

Who, pray tell, has UCF beat this season?

Which opponent/s will be in the top 25 come end of regular season?

Don't you think that you need to beat a couple of good teams to compete with those that do?

You can rag on about the SEC OOC games...but UCF is still 50 rankings higher in SOS than Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M, Florida, etc.

It is UCF who really needs to schedule up in OOC...like any program in a conference with weak in-conference schedules.

Just like the BY BB board continually calls for upgraded OOC games for UConn basketball.

Who has Alabama beaten? If you wish to go there.

 

[SubbaBub]

Who has Alabama beaten? If you wish to go there.

Citadel
Louisville
Arkansas State
Louisiana-Lafayette

Their SEC opponents have similar resumes. Their big win (LSU) has a best win over 6-5 Miami (FL)

 

[atom58]

ESPN lost two million subscribers in 2018. Very interesting as a long term trend, may mean the BTN, SECN, LHN, PAC12N, and soon to be nascent ACCN are all on borrowed time. Still 86 million left, however concussion lawsuits and other problems may endanger college sports as you have known it.

ESPN Loses 2 Million Subscribers in Fiscal 2018

 

[LBird33]

Sooo?

Football Championships are not determined by a 65 team tournament....basketball think doesn't really work here.

With a 12-13 game season, the regular season is also the playoff... Michigan plays Ohio State, Ohio State plays Penn State, Alabama plays Auburn and LSU, Oklahoma plays WVU...etc.

On any given Saturday...top teams will be playing each other, and the whole warp and woof of the college football fabric vibrates when a top 15 team loses.

If the regular college season isn't much of a playoff for a team (very weak SOS), it is indeed difficult to participate in a playoff.

Yes...a team is at a disadvantage for making the play offs if they end up regular season not playing top 30 teams.

It isn't basketball...but even in basketball, the strength of your opponents will determine which side of the bubble you fall...

Basketball has a higher "cut line" than the 4 currently in football...and always will. When the football playoff moves to eight...the arguments will be at who was left out at #8.

I don't blame fans of the G5 for spouting gibberish about how inclusion into the football playoff should be disconnected from performance measurements....like the 1984 BYU NC team that beat their schedule...but really beat no one (and thus ultimately brought about the BCS and CFP).

Everyone know the CFP is a Cartel The Goal is to keep the $$$$in the family. If an outside team made the playoffs it would begin to change the recruitment landscapes. No P5 team wants to have to truly compete. The whole thing is a complete scam.

 

[LBird33]

Who, pray tell, has UCF beat this season?

Which opponent/s will be in the top 25 come end of regular season?

Don't you think that you need to beat a couple of good teams to compete with those that do?

You can rag on about the SEC OOC games...but UCF is still 50 rankings higher in SOS than Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M, Florida, etc.

It is UCF who really needs to schedule up in OOC...like any program in a conference with weak in-conference schedules.

Just like the BY BB board continually calls for upgraded OOC games for UConn basketball.

Tell me the reason why conference realignment started in the first place. ? It was about money- p5 was created so those teams could CONTROL. The rules and contracts for football why? $$$$$$. If it were a truly open field they didn’t have to do this. If they were truly confident over the long term they were better than everyone else they need not worry and slaughter the weaker teams on the field. Why did they threaten to break from the NCAA ? To protect and create a cartel to preserve $$$$$$. And ensure the feeder poll for the best talent stayed within the P5. That’s why it’s a Cartel. And seen as a scam.

 

[billybud]

Tell me the reason why conference realignment started in the first place. ? It was about money- p5 was created so those teams could CONTROL. The rules and contracts for football why? $$$$$$. If it were a truly open field they didn’t have to do this. If they were truly confident over the long term they were better than everyone else they need not worry and slaughter the weaker teams on the field. Why did they threaten to break from the NCAA ? To protect and create a cartel to preserve $$$$$$. And ensure the feeder poll for the best talent stayed within the P5. That’s why it’s a Cartel. And seen as a scam.

And this answers the question of "who has UCF beaten?"

I get it it that you want to unhook relative performance from playing for a NC...your response is really..."The G5's are getting the short stick".

In an 8 team playoff...you could reserve a spot for a P5 team...the "automatic" designation...I really don't much care for the "automatics".

But your wail of "they are greedy S-O-B's" doesn't really address the various issues surrounding a performance based selection process.

 

[billybud]

Citadel
Louisville
Arkansas State
Louisiana-Lafayette

Their SEC opponents have similar resumes. Their big win (LSU) has a best win over 6-5 Miami (FL)

Alabama's body of work is superior to UCF...the Tide's SOS isn't a killer (yet)...but UCF's big win was over 4 loss Pitt.

Alabama has beaten current AP #8 LSU...and in Sagarin..one Top 10 team and 4 Top 30 teams....

UCF...zippo Top 30 in Sagarin

 

[SubbaBub]

Alabama's body of work is superior to UCF...the Tide's SOS isn't a killer (yet)...but UCF's big win was over 4 loss Pitt.

Alabama has beaten current AP #8 LSU...and in Sagarin..one Top 10 team and 4 Top 30 teams....

UCF...zippo Top 30 in Sagarin

Who has LSU beat to show they are a quality win? Miami is barely bowl eligible.

I would love to embarrass you by going team by team showing how there are almost no interconference contests that can say any team has a definitively better resume than a team not in their confernce, but I suspect you are a CFB inbred in terms of buying into the system because it protects an FSU team far removed from it's glory days.

All any team can say is they are the best team from their conference. Hence the reason only champions should be considered.

And the correct answer to the question, "Who has UCF beaten?" is, "Everyone they played."

If you can't match that, then you are behind them in worthiness for the playoff.

Any other answer is biased.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

It’s totally fair that big time P5 schools can refuse to play UCF then ridicule them for playing a soft schedule.

 

[LBird33]

You a dim wit if you can’t follow. It’s about preserving a cartel that includes recruiting and money to the advantage of P5. And eliminate competition. It’s simple.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

You a dim wit if you can’t follow. It’s about preserving a cartel that includes recruiting and money to the advantage of P5. And eliminate competition. It’s simple.

Me? Me a dim wit?

 

[Dooley]

P5: "UCF hasn't played anybody."
UCF (and every G5 team): "We will play anybody, anywhere, anytime."
P5 / UNC: "No thanks, a home game where we get to keep 100% of the gate is not profitable enough for us."

The college football scam continues.

 

[LBird33]

Me? Me a dim wit?

No not you. Reply was a timing thing was responding to a different BYer

My bad

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

No not you. Reply was a timing thing was responding to a different BYer

My bad

 

[billybud]

I remember how FSU broke through...

Played Ohio State twice in the Shoe...no return

Played Michigan twice in the Big House...no return

Played Nebraska twice in Lincoln (when the Huskers were kings)..no return.

Played Michigan State twice in Lansing...no return

Played LSU at Death Valley...five times...no return

I don't buy the whine "nobody will schedule us"

 

[billybud]

FSU also scheduled Notre Dame two away for one return on that push.

and Auburn...three away for one return.

If you have the will to move into the arena...it can be done.

 

[SubbaBub]

FSU also scheduled Notre Dame two away for one return on that push.

and Auburn...three away for one return.

If you have the will to move into the arena...it can be done.

Or play in the Florida recruiting area before nearly every conference added FL teams. Please take your whining somewhere else. The cesspool idiots have all capitulated and I'm looking for fresh game.

 

[buddy]

I remember how FSU broke through...

Played Ohio State twice in the Shoe...no return

Played Michigan twice in the Big House...no return

Played Nebraska twice in Lincoln (when the Huskers were kings)..no return.

Played Michigan State twice in Lansing...no return

Played LSU at Death Valley...five times...no return

I don't buy the whine "nobody will schedule us"

I worked for you all in the old days, but it won't work like that any more.

 

[Dooley]

Some people really don't deserve nice things.

 

[Irishfan]

Who has LSU beat to show they are a quality win? Miami is barely bowl eligible.

I would love to embarrass you by going team by team showing how there are almost no interconference contests that can say any team has a definitively better resume than a team not in their confernce, but I suspect you are a CFB inbred in terms of buying into the system because it protects an FSU team far removed from it's glory days.

All any team can say is they are the best team from their conference. Hence the reason only champions should be considered.

And the correct answer to the question, "Who has UCF beaten?" is, "Everyone they played."

If you can't match that, then you are behind them in worthiness for the playoff.

Any other answer is biased.

LSU beat Georgia 36-16. I think that is the quality win that has them in the top 10.