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The two that will land on their feet are Texas and Oklahoma. The rest, not so much.

Kansas will, and perhaps Oklahoma State. Other will be competing with the upper echelon G5 for the last golden tickets.
 
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Right on target - Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Oklahoma State (the state government will force Oklahoma to save Oklahoma just like the state government forced Virginia to save Virginia Tech).
 
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Kansas will, and perhaps Oklahoma State. Other will be competing with the upper echelon G5 for the last golden tickets.

Kansas would've been on the outside looking in if the big 12 imploded a few years ago
 

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Right on target - Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Oklahoma State (the state government will force Oklahoma to save Oklahoma just like the state government forced Virginia to save Virginia Tech).
What do you base this statement on? Has the legislature or any representative every said this?

Regardless, it really isn't an equivalent situation. Remember that Virginia was already in the ACC and thus had a say in who was admitted. In that particular case, Virginia say was disproportionate given that were just barely enough votes for expansion. Virginia was, in effect, a de facto king maker. Okla won't be in the same situation.

I guess Okla could say if you want us you have to take Okla St. but does anyone really believe the B1G's response would be anything other than thanks for your interest?
 

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Kansas would've been on the outside looking in if the big 12 imploded a few years ago
Nah they'd be in the Big East, which would have survived if the Big 12 did not.
 
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Nah they'd be in the Big East, which would have survived if the Big 12 did not.

Well yeah, I meant that they weren't a school that the PAC wanted.

Man, the big 12 imploding would've been the best case senerio for UConn. I came across an article the other day from 2011 talking about rumors of Mizzou talking to the big east. What a crazy time that was.
 
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Greg Swaim is just slightly north of the Dude, and that might be a stretch.
 

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Well yeah, I meant that they weren't a school that the PAC wanted.

Man, the big 12 imploding would've been the best case senerio for UConn. I came across an article the other day from 2011 talking about rumors of Mizzou talking to the big east. What a crazy time that was.
Pitt and Cuse leave and Mizzou and Kansas join. But a beautiful almost was.
 
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There are only 3 Big 12 schools that the B1G would ever consider:

Texas
Oklahoma
Kansas

The other 7 have no chance of a B1G invite.

I see Texas and Oklahoma. Why Kansas?
 
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Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 27
@Expansion_Crush @flugempire @posas13 I dont want Oklahoma or Missouri getting anywhere near #B1G
Oklahoma police chief owns racist website, Raw Story reports

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
I understand you don't want OU, you have your valid reasons Spencer. But this is not one of them. Can't cast all state in this evil.

Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 27
Hey, every little bit helps...But true. I'm wrong. Very opportunistic of me.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
I can't remember Spencer..who do want to be 15 & 16?

Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 27
Kansas is definitely #15 on my #B1G expansion list. #16 up in air. But I said must be in the East. UConn, WV, Buffalo, Cuse?

Daniel Mountcastle‏ @Expansion_Crush Aug 27
Replying to @SpencerLeone @flugempire @posas13
Of those, I would go for UCONN. I've said before that FB aside and only focusing on BB Kansas and UCONN are the best available

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
If OU decides to go SEC in 2024/25..it's going to get very interesting what B1G does in Expansion. They want 16. (Content + Added Footprint)

Daniel Mountcastle‏ @Expansion_Crush Aug 27
It won't be an SEC school. And it won't be an ACC, PAC12 or G5 school

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
It won't be SEC, ACC or PAC, I agree. G5?..probably not, however.. If OU decides to go SEC and B1G wants to expand, things get interesting.

Paul Hornstein‏ @pfh1964 Aug 27
Why does UCONN continue to be ignored?

Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 27
UConn isnt being ignored. The cards just fell in a way where the ACC and B1G had more strategic/footprint moves

Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 27
The gambled on Pitt/Cuse move shaking free a B1G school. The B1G retaliated going further East and protecting one of its brands

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
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Out of those it would be UCONN. Syracuse staying in ACC. WVU would not be considered by B1G Presidents, although fine University for State.

LGMichael‏ @mhallisy1 Aug 27
WVU. Now THAT would be interesting. Also be interesting to see if the Dude's head would explode.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
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WVU is very important to its state. Fine institution, very important university for its region.

LGMichael‏ @mhallisy1 Aug 27
Completely agree. They'd also have some good rivalries with PSU, Rutgers, etc. B1G could do a lot worse than inviting them.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire Aug 27
B10 Presidents won't be inviting WVU because it's not a fit in Research. But WVU does have value and hopefully ACC comes a calling for them

Spencer Leone‏ @SpencerLeone Aug 29
Future #B1G football matchup, Greg? https://youtu.be/H3r3PePC_v8 #GoldenGophers #Buffalo

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 22h22 hours ago
No.



ME: Positive Connecticut talk for a change, just in time for the start of football season.
 
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They are, but they're something of a legacy with Missouri and (formerly Nebraska). They're definitely in the bottom quartile by AAU metrics. Whether that means they might be on the chopping block, who knows. The CMUP report does a pretty good job of roughly outlining the pecking 0rder based on AAU metrics.

https://mup.asu.edu/sites/default/f...rican-research-universities-annual-report.pdf
2013 figures. Is there a more recent report?
(UConn + UConn Health @81, RU + UMNJ @41, UMass+? @40)
 

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2013 figures. Is there a more recent report?
(UConn + UConn Health @81, RU + UMNJ @41, UMass+? @40)

KU does better with the med center numbers. Like UConn, it is off campus in KCKS. But they joined the AAU in 1909.

Surprisingly, UMass, especially with the med school added, has pretty good numbers in that report.
 
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Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
MN AD Mark Coyle at State Fair was asked (WCCO) "..any changes to Big Ten's future of 14 schools?" Coyle "I think there will be long term"

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/904413014652329989 … Obviously Coyle was referring to future (2024/25) Big Ten expansion.

Gophers Forever‏ @RTBGophers 8h8 hours ago
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Gimme Kansas and Oklahoma, please.

Will Nye‏ @willfnye 6h6 hours ago
i'd rather have virginia and north carolina but would be cool with this

Gophers Forever‏ @RTBGophers 6h6 hours ago
It'd stink to see the UNC/Duke ACC rivalry end.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 6h6 hours ago
ACC schools are all locked into their GOR's until 2036. None of those schools are attainable.

Will Nye‏ @willfnye 6h6 hours ago
i'm never gonna say never as long as delaney is involved

RedDirtSports‏ @RedDirtSport 23h23 hours ago
RedDirtSports Retweeted Lonely Tailgater

The Big 12 is not a conference. We're a loose confederation of teams held together by an every decreasing exit fee. To hell with everyone

CycloneJerseys.com‏ @CycloneJerseys 11h11 hours ago
Thanks in no part to our standard bearers rarely doing their part. Yes Texas and even OU, I'm looking at you.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 9h9 hours ago
Replying to @CycloneJerseys @RedDirtSport
Issues of B12 go way beyond what happens on playing field. 1) Bottom half don't add large markets 2) Not filled with like-minded Schls

ESPN‏Verified account @espn
Before you declare Texas hopeless or give Baker Mayfield the Heisman, read this:
Don't overreact; it's only Week 1

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 5h5 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted ESPN

https://mobile.twitter.com/espn/status/904449465049907200 … Better yet ESPN, why don't you give B12 chance at survival by shutting down the albatross called LHN..& create B12N.
 
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Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 22h22 hours ago
Discussion with BTM tonight over Sushi has primarily centered around Texas and LHN. Some real good stuff. Recap tomorrow.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "LHN keeps declining. Distribution keeps dwindling. DirectTV just blew out its knee caps with distribution changes"

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "Texas & ESPN are in a general agreement LHN won't exist past 2025. Life span may be shorter, but not longer"

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "Quite evident. No belief in LHN long term. It's not being fed. No new investments in LHN. No installation behind walls."

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "LHN status of "dead horse" is significant for realignment. It's gives some oxygen for UT to stay in Big 12, but not much."

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "More true now than ever Texas acknowledges internally Oklahoma's future is in changing its conference affiliation."

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 8h8 hours ago
BTM: "Oklahoma's decision on President will signify change. The forces of change in Norman have won the day"
 
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If it takes 11 votes of 14 to kick out Louisville...that would mean that 3 dissenters (other than Louisville's vote) would stop the process.

I could see a difficulty in getting 11 of the 13 to vote "out"....
 

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If Louisville abstains due to conflict of interest, they should not be counted in the denominator either.

13 x 0.75 = 9.75 = 10.

It depends how the provision is interpreted
 
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Under Roberts Rs...

....if the vote required is a majority or two thirds of the members present, or a majority or two thirds of the entire membership, an abstention will have the same effect as a “no” vote. Even in such a case, however, an abstention is not a vote.... and is not counted as a vote. [RONR (11th ed.), p. 400, ll. 7-12; p. 401, ll. 8-11; p. 403, ll. 13-24; see also p. 66 of RONRIB.]
 

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