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1hGreg Flugaur @flugempire
One last reminder: Dinner with BTM tomorrow night. BTM comments on B1G perspective in Realignment/Expansion will be tweeted out.

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Please take that post with the grain of salt that I meant it to be....I did find the supposed connection of interest, but certainly without any kind of real merit.
 
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BTM: From B10 perspective this aggressive pitch from SEC will endanger B10 hopes of landing Oklahoma in 2022.

BTM: B10 100% believes SEC, not wanting B10 at the border of Texas, will make an aggressive pitch for OU/OSU.

BTM: Oklahoma has knowledge, a perception Kansas is B10 bound regardless of their own future position in Realignment.

BTM: B10 targeting Kansas is completely independent of what decision Oklahoma makes in 2022.

BTM: Kansas matches current profile SEC is looking for, SEC recognizes Kansas value, but Kansas 1st choice is B10

BTM: From B10 perspective SEC will not make serious play for Kansas.

BTM: From B10 perspective SEC wants to move West in their next expansion just they did with Missouri and TAMU.

BTM: From B10 perspective PAC is not much of a threat to obtain Oklahoma.

BTM: From B10 perspective SEC will make a huge play for OU. PAC will make their interest known once again.

BTM: Boren knows. He knows OU own T3 ends 2022. He also knows B10 new Media deal up in 2022.

BTM: Schools in B12 will need resolution long before June 30th, 2025, the day the current B12 GOR officially dies.

BTM: I brought up to you 8 or 9 months ago the importance of 2021/22 in settling the future and the reasons why.

BTM:All of Boren's public comments in last few days are consistent with everything OU Contacts have said & we informed you since March 2015.

BTM: Oklahoma and Kansas want out of B12. They want to attach their future to different associations.

BTM: B12 is not working on these issues. They threw their towel in unofficially around Sept 22nd, 2016. Officially Oct 17th, 2016.

BTM: PAC are working through a minefield of issues in attempting to improve their exposure.

BTM: You Greg,have always heard me talk about importance for the Presidents wanting to gain opportunities & exposure for their Universities.

BTM: People get caught up in Conference Payouts. These numbers are important, very important. But they are just one factor in many.

BTM: But at end of day these PAC schools have no interest in changing their associations.

BTM: PAC wants to improve themselves, their value, their 3T distribution model, possibly.

BTM: For example: USC, UCLA and Stanford don't want out of PAC. They do not want to change their associations.

BTM: We will get into the reasons next but let's get this out of the way. OU & KU want out, and they will get out.

BTM: The reason B12 will lose schools in 2022 is because a couple of schools want to change their associations.

BTM: Texas Football winning the National Championship in 2005 did not stop other B12 schools from leaving years after.

BTM: B12 will not heal they self by having Oklahoma win the National Championship in Football in 2017 or 2018.

BTM: B12 issues can't be solved by changing the outside perception of the Conference.



Dinner is finished.
 
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Did the dinner include hallucinogenic mushrooms?
But wait, there's more

BTM: B10 HCKY Coaches and Athletic Directors have pitched their desire of adding North Dakota to B10 HCKY Conference to Jim Delany.

Me: I asked BTM what's the latest he has heard on B10 HCKY expansion.

BTM: Navy doesn't want to put their Football Program into P5 setting. Too many ACC schools don't want WVU as member.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 3m3 minutes ago

BTM: If Notre Dame would ever choose to be a member of ACC I would assume, but I do not know, that UCONN would become serious candidate.

BTM: I don't know anybody who seriously believes there are talks going on right now for ND to become member of ACC.

BTM: From B10 perspective we thought Notre Dame was seriously thinking about joining ACC 2/3 years ago. We were wrong.

Me: I just asked BTM about Notre Dame and ACC.

BTM: SEC, on their part, will make it very difficult for Oklahoma, politically, to turn down SEC Invite which will include OSU.

BTM: In a few years Kansas will become part of the B10 and this will have a great pull for Oklahoma to not leave this opportunity behind.

BTM: It's very easy for Kansas and Oklahoma to witness what the B10 association has accomplished for Nebraska.

BTM: Lack of exposure in Research & Academic circles for B12 schls has now infected its Athletic Programs to reach higher levels of exposure

BTM: I repeat myself, but the disease B12 is carrying around is lack of exposure. Its inability to market and brand itself.

BTM: News will be breaking soon on LHN receiving limited play on Direct TV in some fashion.

BTM: Texas & ESPN will move as many Texas schls as possible to PAC as long as PAC gives some equity of PACN into LHN in some manner or form.

BTM: LHN will not continue to function as it currently stands. B10 believes UT will eventually move to PAC.

BTM: B10 would almost do anything to get Texas into the conference for the next 100 years. But Longhorns, at this time, are out of reach.

BTM: B10, at this time, doesn't see any opening to obtaining Texas into its conference.

BTM: If OU chooses B10, B10 perspective is SEC would stand still.

BTM:Without Oklahoma B10 will still pursue KU.We know this to be true. Who B10 pursues for 16 is not known. Won't be known until OU decides.

BTM: OU is the ignition switch in next wave of Realignment. OU knows their position. Other schools know this as well including Texas.

BTM: B10 knows OU is very interested in obtaining B10 invite. OU knows B10 wants them in the B10 Conference.
No secrets.

BTM: For B10 its OU/KU (and it has been for quite sometime)
For SEC it's landing OU through OU/OSU tied together invite.

BTM: This is the lay of the land. Both B10 & SEC are aware of each Conference targets.

There are no secrets.
Only planning.

BTM: OU/OSU sharing same media market will not factor negatively into this particular desire for SEC to land both schools.

BTM: ESPN created LHN to keep Texas out of PAC and B10. ESPN/SEC will go all out to keep B10 out of Oklahoma.
Keep B10 off Texas Border.

BTM: OU/OSU combo going to SEC is very plausible scenario. Greatest threat to B10 plans going forward.
 
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  1. I'm going to quit tweeting so I can have a drink. I will try to answer your questions later tonight. This concludes BTM Dinner tweets
  2. Seaa Blue said:
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  3. BTM: B10 is fortunate Kansas and Oklahoma both have tremendous interest in making 100 year decision with B10.
BTM: Spring of 2015 when B10 knew of ESPN plans to actually, truthfully carry out their promises of growing exposure for ACC schls = ACCN.

Me: To switch back to B10 Expansion. How long has it been B10 plan to obtain Oklahoma & Kansas in 2022/2024?

BTM: Mark Coyle had a plan. President of Minnesota made it possible Coyle could activate plan.

BTM: We obtained details of plan on Dec 23rd, plan created prior to Dec. Plan of action was carried out. Not anymore complicated.

ME:I'm asking you this question knowing you can't answer it precisely,but can you give us any info on how you broke this on @MinnesotaScout?

ME:I've been asked to ask you how did you get right date:time(few hours off)on Claeys Firing/Fleck's hiring 216 hours prior to it happening?

BTM: But we have some information that those close to MN/WI Programs believes it will get done.

BTM: North Dakota is not B10 like-minded-School. This will be the trip wire if it does not happen.

BTM: North Dakota President Mark Kennedy would accept invite if given.

BTM: We are now waiting for B10 President meeting late Summer to see if they take up vote for invite.
 

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So if BTM is breaking news on the Minnesota scout site - why is this elaborate Big Ten Man! persona?

Why doesn't he just post it himself sometime.

Whole lot of nothing there by the way. Oklahoma and Kansas want out of the Big 12. Who knew?!?
 

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Let's just say that "BTM" has inside info (it's the non-key tweet thread, it runs wild with rumors). The biggest thing he said for UConn was that Kansas and Oklahoma are independent of each other and that Kansas' first choice in the Big10. If Oklahoma chooses to go to the SEC, he is saying that the Big10 will still take Kansas. Who would be the 16th? He says Texas is out of reach. There isn't another Big12 school that that fits the bill. Assuming no ACC, SEC or PAC schools would jump, that leaves slim pickins. The best bet, in my humble opinion would be UConn.

East/West divisions would look like this:

East: UConn, Rutgers, Maryland, PSU, OSU, Michigan, MSU and Indiana
West: Purdue, NW, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas

Seven divisional games and 2 crossovers. Indiana and Purdue have a permanent crossover game and would only get 1 true crossover.

Or you could go to the dynamic pod idea where two Pods become a division for a couple of years and you alternate. They might look like this:

Pod 1: UConn, Maryland, Rutgers and PSU
Pod 2: Michigan, OSU, MSU and Indiana
Pod 3: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nw, Illinois
Pod 4: Iowa, Purdue, Nebraska and Kansas

You would have your seven divisional games and two crossovers with Indiana and Purdue being permanent crossovers.
 

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It's silly season again:



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Sounds like we got a deal!!!! Hooked horns and Sooner Boomer

Texas and Oklahoma to the Big10. Go ahead and laugh.
 

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It's silly season again:



Bluevod @Bluevodreal
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Sounds like we got a deal!!!! Hooked horns and Sooner Boomer

Texas and Oklahoma to the Big10. Go ahead and laugh.
TO paraphrase Bachman Turner Overdrive:

'Any change is good change, so I'll just take what I can get.'
 
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Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 12h12 hours ago
In the not too distant future, WVU will likely have a chance to join the ACC. Right now WVU would have the votes.

Hickoryeer‏ @Hickoryeer 11h11 hours ago
BS

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 10h10 hours ago
its not BS.

Hickoryeer‏ @Hickoryeer 10h10 hours ago
I would be very happy however if it's not BS.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 10h10 hours ago
Replying to @Hickoryeer
Its not. Almost common knowledge that the ACC would prefer WVU to join along with ND.

Mark Snyder‏Verified account @Mark__Snyder
That new Big Ten TV deal is working out. U-M projects a $51.1 million distribution for FY 2018

John Bishop‏ @JohnBishop71
John Bishop Retweeted Mark Snyder

Gettin' paid. #Huskers could earn $51 million from B1G this upcoming fiscal year.

Doug‏ @NebGradDubDub 6h6 hours ago
Doug Retweeted John Bishop

@theDudeofWV keep in mind that teams like Ohio state and Nebraska bring in over 10 million on separate tier 3 deals with IMG

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @NebGradDubDub
WVU gets $11M total from its T3 package.

Doug‏ @NebGradDubDub 5h5 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
Nebraska and OSU is much higher than 10 million. That's just IMG. point is, Texas and OU won't like this.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Chris doesn't understand Doug. He doesn't understand the money part, and he surly doesn't understand the huge difference in exposure of BTN

Doug‏ @NebGradDubDub 3h3 hours ago
Nebraska just tripled its revenue in 1 year with full membership. Purdue is bringing in more $ than OU. Funny

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Bringing in more money which is attached to payouts by each Conference...but of course not in total.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Not only has Nebraska increased their payouts and exposure in a massive way...but also have fully invested in Conf Network. *ownership*

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
But according to Dude of 3 months ago Nebraska wants back into the Big 12.

Brett McMurphy‏ @Brett_McMurphy
Michigan projects $51.1 million in conference revenue from B1G for 2018, up from $36.3M in 2017, due to new TV deal, @chengelis reports

RedDirtSports‏ @RedDirtSport 6h6 hours ago
RedDirtSports Retweeted Brett McMurphy

Somewhere David Boren sheepishly grins

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @RedDirtSport
Cost to exit B12 over $500M

Matt Ballard‏ @Mballard85 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV @RedDirtSport
Here's this guy again, don't you have some horrible predictions to make with no basis to back them up?

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
No. I always have the facts. B12 bylaws a matter of public record. Read them.
 

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So WVU is going to the ACC when ND joins in full but Oklahoma can't get out of the GoR and bylaws? Wouldn't it cost WVU $500 million as well? The Dude being the Dude again. All is right with the world.
 
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The ACC is tired of telling WVU to stop begging so they just ignore them now.
 
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Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 5h5 hours ago
Of all the illogical arguments Dude makes for OU not going to Big Ten in 2025 this is heads the list.


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Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 5h5 hours ago
You must ask...would FOX/ESPN/*NewMedia* in 2025 rather pay OU an extra 10-15 mil in Tier 1/2 $ to play in B1G content(markets) vs B12?

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 5h5 hours ago
You must ask.. how much would FOX/BIG (BTN)value OU content/brand/market in adding their 3rd Tier content into current B1G 3rd Tier content?

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Remember, If FOX is willing to pay OU __amount of $ in B1G 2025..they are not spending __amount to pay OU in B12 starting i2025.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
So Dude is asking the wrong question. He needs to ask the wrong question to get the answer he wants.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
You notice Dude is not bringing up his falsehoods anymore of B1G not being interested in OU because they are not AAU? Progress in Dudeville

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
If B1G schools get 51 mil , they will make more if OU brings in any amount over 51 mill

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
I'm sorry...it's the wrong way of looking at it.. BIG has huge leverage at negotiating table with Sport Media because of multiple reasons.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Just take FOX for example: Would FOX rather pay OU 10 mil more a year to play in Big 10 vs playing in B12 in 2025? Answer is yes.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
It's not about can OU bring in 51 mil in value..the question is can OU bring in the difference between being payed in B10 (10 extra)vs B12.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
Oh, I understand. Just trying to make it simple

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Yes, you understand. And yes, OU has the value to B1G and SEC ti be targeted for future expansion.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
No doubt, PAC merger doesn't make work well for OU & KU. Works for other B12 schools of PAC will have them. Texas can do whatever they want.

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Yes. There is not going to be a merger between PAC/B12. Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard from the Dude..well..tied with top 36 things.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
But Texas would get east coast exposure & gap between them and A&M will grow which would not set well with alumni

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
PAC Presidents are not going to agree with a merger with Big 12. Will they try to poach a few schools again?..yes. Total merger?...no.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
Agreed. They already turned down OU/OkSt combo once. Doesn't that say enough about other schools not named Texas

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
Yep. And now some (Only Dude) would have you believe total merger is in the cards? Perposterous.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 4h4 hours ago
First, I dont think there is any way PAC takes a religious school which also eliminates TCU. Best hope would be 18 if they get out of GOR

Murr‏ @MurrDCU 4h4 hours ago
PAC will probably not be interested in any deal not involving UTa. OU/OSU was voted down by the Presidents back then. Don't see KU/ISUeither

Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire 4h4 hours ago
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Yep.
 
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Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV Jun 15
In the not too distant future, WVU will likely have a chance to join the ACC. Right now WVU would have the votes.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 11h11 hours ago
What time frame is the not so distant future

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @SeanboSengo
ND.... it depends on ND.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 6h6 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
Then not so soon

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
Near future... 5-8 years... so not so soon.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
End of B12 GOR

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
And I dont think it matters what ND does

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
I think it does. ACC will not go to 16 without ND as 15.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 6h6 hours ago
Agree to disagree. WV is an asset, goves ACCN not only more content but better content & large fan base. How long did B1G play w/11.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
The problem is odd numbers are horrible on the schedule.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 6h6 hours ago
It is but still doable. Atlantic has FSU, Clem, Lou but Coastal has NC, VT. Coastal needs help. WV could do that. ND would be a bonus

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
ND is no fan of WVU and vice versa. Fortunately, WVU has Clemson, Pitt and VT pulling for them. See the 1994 story from NYT I tweeted.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 6h6 hours ago
Nothing ND can do if WV joins first

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
If you think through it you see a B12/P12 merger means more money for both than separately redoing new contracts.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
More than a few OU fans have criticized my take on OU's inability to get out of the GoR or why the price point may be too high for the B1G.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
For the Big 10 to expand again the schools added must at least add $102 million in new TV revenue.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Anything less than $102 million per year and B1G shares decline. That's not going to happen.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
You may point out - and rightly so - that the new B1G deal expires in 5 years.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
But we don't know how the market will respond or what role carriage fees will pay.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
It may be the B1G can only add revenue by going after OU... or the opposite could be true. The B12 may be in the better position.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
I do know - what I think is a valid why out of the GoR - but its less valid for OU and Texas.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
The fact is that the conference with the brand new TV deal makes more. That's why the SEC is last in network TV money. Oldest contract.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Right now the trend is for rights fees to decline and carriage fees to be less than what they are now.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
If those two factors continue to trend down then the Big 12 likely stays intact.

Boozy McWhitetrash‏ @BoozyMac 7h7 hours ago
Law of diminishing returns.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @BoozyMac
Exactly... $52M = ($728M / 14) pear year. Add 2 and that drops to $45M.

STLBYU‏ @stlbyu 7h7 hours ago
Can you tell me how you calculated to get that number? I'm just trying to understand. What's the number to get in the B12 right now?

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @stlbyu
See last tweet...just assume Michigan's number is correct.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @stlbyu
$51 x 2

Head Coach's Wife!‏ @CoachsWifeASU 7h7 hours ago
Soooooo, you're saying the ACC is gon' be rich?!?!

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @CoachsWifeASU
If you believe Swofford.... yea..

Head Coach's Wife!‏ @CoachsWifeASU 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
I believe anything anyone tells me ever.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
ESPN paid to lock down the ACC long-term. The money Swofford is pushing for ACCN maybe cheap in the long run.

STLBYU‏ @stlbyu 7h7 hours ago
Can you tell me how you calculated to get that number? I'm just trying to understand. What's the number to get in the B12 right now?

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @stlbyu
Sorry that's B1G. The magic number for the B12 is about $35M. Yes, BYU is worth that.

DFW‏ @DerrikFredrick 7h7 hours ago
Personally I would rather see the Big XII intact with WV in the ACC/SEC.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @DerrikFredrick
My opinion is that regardless of what happens to the Big 12 that WVU moves the ACC eventually.

DFW‏ @DerrikFredrick 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
I do love the Big 12, but it's not where we belong, but what if the SEC comes calling?

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Depends.

DFW‏ @DerrikFredrick 7h7 hours ago
On? Maybe I'm wrong but if both offer I can't see WVU not whistling Dixie. Bonus: to stick it in the eye of Tobacco Roads.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
My personal opinion is that WVU is better off in the ACC. Many don't share that opinion.

DFW‏ @DerrikFredrick 7h7 hours ago
I don't think you're necessarily wrong. I think culture wise WVU would be more at home in the SEC. what's the *earliest* ACC/SEC could hpn?

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
No question WVU is, by culture, a SEC school.

DFW‏ @DerrikFredrick 6h6 hours ago
Also unlike the ACC, I think the SEC actually wants WVU, but the timing is always off, and money/outside factors play into it.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
I know the SEC has interest. But the SEC isn't going to be a bad guy. They don't take risks either.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @SeanboSengo
But the ACC will not go odd... and who but ND adds enough value? Plus the agreement ND has with the ACC.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
They have option to join in football. No say in what current 14 football schools do

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
ACC cannot add WVU without ND. Scheduling is the issue there.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
It can be done. Even w 2 divisions, you can have a 3pod scheduling set up. 3 sets of 5 for sched purpose only. Play 2 from other sched pods.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Yes... also reduces those huge payouts. Freezes out G5 too. Which is what the P5 want.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Agree to disagree. WV is an asset, goves ACCN not only more content but better content & large fan base. How long did B1G play w/11.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Swofford is on record saying the ACC would add another team with ND. He didn't say anything about adding without ND.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @SeanboSengo
WVU is... WVU has traditional rivalries with Pitt, VT, Syracuse and even BC. Natural rivalries with NCST, UVA & even FSU.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
Exactly. You just made my point

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
4 B12 schools at or over $40M total. So T3 with something to Big 12 schools.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
I'm not talking radio, signage, sponsorships, just T3 tv

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Yea... that's what I'm talking about.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
We would have to go over those numbers again

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @SeanboSengo
WVU and Cuse had a heated rivalry once. Cuse was the only team Don Nehlen ever ran up the score on...

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
OU fans are some of the best in the world but they need to realize the B1G may not be the promised land & the B12 might not be bad.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Depends on next contract. Does small B12 footprint hurt. How much is B1G contract on 5 yrs. Does SEC rev continue to increase. SEC new deal

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
My opinion is B12 only survives if it poaches or merges with Pac 12. Merger most likely.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
B12 makes more than PAC. Why would the bigger schools want to merge w/PAC if opportunity came to join B1G/SEC which make more money than B12

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV
Replying to @SeanboSengo
Why? Expand footprint. Might be the only way to increase TV money.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
My assumption is that WVU and Baylor are not part of any potential merger.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Remember your rule. Does it make conf more money, schools more, networks more. If not all 3 then no expansion or merger

Replying to @SeanboSengo
It does. Say T3 rights revert back to schools. Say TV contract is more because it would have largest footprint in college football.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
Just the very fact they merge would mean less inventory available and likely increase bidding.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
A merger is the only way both the Big 12 and Pac 12 see primary TV money increase. WVU will not be part of it...

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Depends on next contract. Does small B12 footprint hurt. How much is B1G contract on 5 yrs. Does SEC rev continue to increase. SEC new deal

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
If you look at the problems each conf has its clear that some type of relationship between the B12 and Pac 12 solves the issues both have.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
A PAC merger would be nest for 6 of the 10 B12 schools but doubt it's better for OU, Tex, KU & diffently not WV.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
If you think through it you see a B12/P12 merger means more money for both than separately redoing new contracts.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
1. Reduction of inventory increases value. 2. More conf games for T3 or network 3. Better advertising rates.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
Thats what I said. But you need more than 1 school for a network. Not enough content individually aka LHN

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
A 20 school conf would have plenty of content.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
But less viewers on West Coast and much less passion. How does that help OU and Texas when compared to B1G or SEC

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Same way footprint helps the B1G.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
B1G didn't have an agreement for ND to rotate playing ACC schools in football. Adding WVU would mean fewer games with ND.

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
ND is the big prize other than Texas. For whatever reason....

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Baylor will be P5 until GOR runs out and no longer. Baylor will enforce GOR if its as strong as you have claimed

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @SeanboSengo
Yes they will. They will try. A friend at IMG has told me one way he thinks WVU could get out.

Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo 7h7 hours ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV
So is it iron-clad like has been claimef for years or not

Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
I'll DM you.
 

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