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kyleslamb said:
Clearly some people didn't understand because they were responding with why UConn should move to the Big 12. I know the reasons. I'm not arguing against them. I just believe they're being overstated and I believe that there's not a reason to panic (yet) if it doesn't happen. We all know the Big 12 is not going to last in its current form beyond 2024. There will be another round where the SEC, Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12 go hunting. The world wouldn't drastically change in the next five years based on the Big 12 poaching other G5 members for personal gain.

Just as a neutral observer following this as you guys are, I don't think the sky is falling if this doesn't happen. I get folks disagree with that, but it's not irrational.

If I can be of any consolation to you, I will offer to jump off the bridges with you all if it doesn't materialize? I'll drink the Kool Aid.
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I can promise you if we keep playing Tulane, Tulsa, ECU, etc plus whatever scrubs the AAC picks up after the others leave, there will be like 20 fans left by 2024.

You can't sustain fan interest long term with Marshall and Old Dominion and Southern Miss.
 
kyleslamb said:
Guys you all seem to be misunderstanding what I'm saying here.

As an athletic director or president of UConn, I'm not saying the safe choice isn't to accept a Big 12 invite. Again I'm not saying don't do it...

What I am saying is that you guys, as fans, should honestly not lose as much sleep over getting left out if that in fact happens because the Big 12 probably won't survive in its current form anyhow, and you're not going to go belly up in the next 5-6 years. This is me, as someone who's not thinking emotionally, saying I think you guys are going to be fine. I'm not saying that in such a way I'm expecting you to take my word for it nor is it like I'm guaranteeing that. I'm just saying the Big 12 is in a desperate situation as it is. They're not the answer. They're not really much of an answer at it. It might be a short term stopgap, which I understand what you all are saying. However, I don't think 5-6 years of the AAC is going to inflict much damage if my hunch about the ACC or Big Ten calling is correct and the Big 12 is looking to pay you about what you're already making.

We're talking about a dysfunctional league looking to go cheap on any prospective members so its elites can make as much money as possible in the short term then bail for a better situation. That doesn't sound like something that's really all that advantageous for UConn. Not as much as you guys think.
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No, we get what you're telling us. You're telling us that we should think going to the Big XII won't matter for us anyway.

You've made every point that can be made multiple times. Please go away now.
 
MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
Now fox and ESPN are offering a 17% increase and 40m for CCG if B12 stays at 10 and removes pro rata.
 
businesslawyer said:
No, we get what you're telling us. You're telling us that we should think going to the Big XII won't matter for us anyway.

You've made every point that can be made multiple times. Please go away now.
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Fine. God forbid someone doesn't share your views the world will end if you aren't picked by a desperate league. If it so offends your sensibilities that someone disagree with your pessimism, then I'd rather accommodate your wishes than join in the groupthink and not actually engage in conversation on... gasp... a message board. So I'll respect your wishes to "go away now." Good luck.
 
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kyleslamb said:
Fine. God forbid someone doesn't share your views the world will end if you aren't picked by a desperate league.

If the board is resorting to unpleasant groupthink where a differing opinion isn't welcome, I'll respect your wishes. Good luck.
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Hey you've been a respectful and courteous poster. Please do not take the comments as a personal attack. Just realize this game of conference realignment water torture is wearing thin on the psyche of BY posters and, unless it is your school, it is hard to completely understand the frustration. No school has suffered like UConn and it is almost impossible to explain how this keeps happening. That anger sometimes comes out in the posts.

Thanks for visiting the BY even if your opinions are not universally shared...
 
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People sometimes forget we upgraded football at great expense solely to join a BCS conference and insure our future inclusion in big time college athletics. Every single member of the BE as constituted in 1999 or so has left for greener pastures. No, Temple doesn't count.
 
I don't know what will happen, but there are two things I feel pretty confident about now:

1) Memphis is out under any scenario. They are not getting an invitation.
2) Houston only gets invited if there are 4 teams being added to the Big 12.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't know what will happen, but there are two things I feel pretty confident about now:

1) Memphis is out under any scenario. They are not getting an invitation.
2) Houston only gets invited if there are 4 teams being added to the Big 12.
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I agree that Memphis is out. They have to be. If ESPN and Fox are gonna throw a fit about anyone being added, it would be Memphis. And I doubt anyone in the Big 12 feels that strongly about adding them that they'd be willing to debate the networks to get them in.

So either they never were getting an invite, or they were and the Big 12 will replace them, or they'll go down to just 2 additions.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't know what will happen, but there are two things I feel pretty confident about now:

1) Memphis is out under any scenario. They are not getting an invitation.
2) Houston only gets invited if there are 4 teams being added to the Big 12.
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I feel the same way. UH is 14. Memphis doesn't deliver Memphis. Waste of time.
 
BoomerHusky said:
http://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/hans_scotty_g_john_ourand_sports_business_journal_writer

Here is an interview with the guy from sports business journal who wrote the article about ESPN and FOX being angry. Says ESPN doesn't understand why they should pay more for content they already have and it's a negotiation tactic. They will come to some kind of a consensus but said from who he's talked to BYU is a front runner for their national brand...
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This is deeply disturbing. UT and the sisters of the poor have known for a long time that ESPN doesn't favor expansion. Alas, they want more money. Are they using these threats as bargaining leverage? #1 most epic nut sack kick to CT sports was delivered by Bob Kraft in the same manner.
 
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CL82 said:
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PETA wants your address so they can picket your house.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 52m52 minutes ago
@Briuconn
I'm not sure what you want me to respond to..
BYU-UH-UC-UCONN all have traction among B12...different slices of traction.

Brian A ‏@BriUConn · 48m48 minutes ago
@flugempire January-May when you spoke of 2 schools you were adamant it would be Cincy and UCONN to Big 12,so if it's 2 still same 2?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 44m44 minutes ago
@Briuconn
There is no compromise that can be made at 12.
UT won't allow a UC/UCONN..they want UH.
Non Texas Faction won't allow UH 11/12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 41m41 minutes ago
@Briuconn
There is no 12.
You need to get to 14 to get to 12.
Bowlsby and Boren will push their legal advantage within the contract.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 40m40 minutes ago
The least reported part of Big 12 expansion story is how pissed Boren is at UT and ESPN.
Until you know this...you don't have ear to ground
 
Flugs is one of the few guys that can say "why" and have it make any sense.

I hope there is a standoff at 12, and then the question is whether to go back to ESPN for an adjustment and no additions, or add 4 schools.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Flugs is one of the few guys that can say "why" and have it make any sense.

I hope there is a standoff at 12, and then the question is whether to go back to ESPN for an adjustment and no additions, or add 4 schools.
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This is where a UH add may save us. Texas has a huge vested interest in getting them in. And they already have the LHN in hand, so they don't need to worry about the fallout from the networks down the line.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Flugs is one of the few guys that can say "why" and have it make any sense.

I hope there is a standoff at 12, and then the question is whether to go back to ESPN for an adjustment and no additions, or add 4 schools.
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I'm starting to hope (and will also laugh tremendously after the fact) that the Big XII just doesn't expand because Texas won't say no to Houston and/or the networks scared them away. Our odds don't seem great and if we can stay in a strong (for football) American it won't be anything close to as bad us not getting into a P5
 
amory said:
This is where a UH add may save us. Texas has a huge vested interest in getting them in. And they already have the LHN in hand, so they don't need to worry about the fallout from the networks down the line.
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Or, it screws us even worse becauase instead of taking 1 school from the AAC they take 3 that doesn't include us. With our luck that is what will happen
 
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Still unsure how much the Texas schools actually "want" Houston as opposed to being told they need to "advocate" for their inclusion. There's a difference when it comes down to push and shove time.
 
JMick said:
Or, it screws us even worse becauase instead of taking 1 school from the AAC they take 3 that doesn't include us. With our luck that is what will happen
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The network pushback is probably much higher for a school like Memphis than it would be for UConn. UConn objectively holds value beyond "hey, they're close and they had a few good football seasons".

ESPN knows there's a decent chance they'd end up paying us someday, somewhere. Whether that's in the ACC or the Big 12. Memphis is only getting paid if the Big 12 takes them.

If ESPN/Fox says hey, if you're adding four, at least make it the 4 schools that likely were gonna get in somewhere anyway (UC/UConn/UH/BYU), maybe the Big 12 can live with that compromise.
 
BoomerHusky said:
http://1280thezone.com/index.php/story/read/hans_scotty_g_john_ourand_sports_business_journal_writer

Here is an interview with the guy from sports business journal who wrote the article about ESPN and FOX being angry. Says ESPN doesn't understand why they should pay more for content they already have and it's a negotiation tactic. They will come to some kind of a consensus but said from who he's talked to BYU is a front runner for their national brand...
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I happen to hear the author of this article tonight on XM College Sports Radio. He was mostly reviewing what he wrote until he started to talk about tv markets...he said this "UConn is the ONLY school that brings 100% of an entire market and gives excellent penetration into the NYC market...the geographical location is their ONLY hang up"...on Cincy was 3rd in their market; Houston is a pro sports town and UH is not even close to being #1 in their market; Memphis is also 3rd option in their market and has some serious facility and academic blemishes; USF is behind UF and FSU; UCF behind FSU; BYU has a large nation wide audience but doesn't carry any markets outside of Provo.
 
If the author was fed this info by ESPN/FOX as speculated, its a good sign for us. This was supposedly a warning shot to the B12 delivered through the writer. I like that he clearly understands that we bring something to the table. It seems someone educated him.
 
amory said:
The network pushback is probably much higher for a school like Memphis than it would be for UConn. UConn objectively holds value beyond "hey, they're close and they had a few good football seasons".

ESPN knows there's a decent chance they'd end up paying us someday, somewhere. Whether that's in the ACC or the Big 12. Memphis is only getting paid if the Big 12 takes them.

If ESPN/Fox says hey, if you're adding four, at least make it the 4 schools that likely were gonna get in somewhere anyway (UC/UConn/UH/BYU), maybe the Big 12 can live with that compromise.
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I'd agree, except for the fact that ESPN has never gone out of their way to help us and have often been a detriment.
 
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FDNY99 said:
I happen to hear the author of this article tonight on XM College Sports Radio. He was mostly reviewing what he wrote until he started to talk about tv markets...he said this "UConn is the ONLY school that brings 100% of an entire market and gives excellent penetration into the NYC market...the geographical location is their ONLY hang up"...on Cincy was 3rd in their market; Houston is a pro sports town and UH is not even close to being #1 in their market; Memphis is also 3rd option in their market and has some serious facility and academic blemishes; USF is behind UF and FSU; UCF behind FSU; BYU has a large nation wide audience but doesn't carry any markets outside of Provo.
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TweeT this info out,and watch heads explode.
 
noeynox said:
TweeT this info out,and watch heads explode.
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the best part of the interview was how he put the guy asking him the questions in his place...he started to write off UConn and got slammed....when the guy was done explaining the market stuff he backtracked and totally changed his tune on UConn
 
FDNY99 said:
the best part of the interview was how he put the guy asking him the questions in his place...he started to write off UConn and got slammed....when the guy was done explaining the market stuff he backtracked and totally changed his tune on UConn
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If anyone can link the interview would love to hear it.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Flugs is one of the few guys that can say "why" and have it make any sense.

I hope there is a standoff at 12, and then the question is whether to go back to ESPN for an adjustment and no additions, or add 4 schools.
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I want to believe what Flugs is saying and he typically does have solid reasoning.

The Houston issue makes a ton of sense on both sides unless they go to 14, and given that the networks aren't keen on expanding, I wouldn't be shocked if the networks gave the 10 Big 12 schools a bump and stayed put.
 
FDNY99 said:
the best part of the interview was how he put the guy asking him the questions in his place...he started to write off UConn and got slammed....when the guy was done explaining the market stuff he backtracked and totally changed his tune on UConn
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I'm not one that thinks we should be parading around twitter but it is amazing how many people change their mind once they hear the actual data. Public perception is huge and I have to think a little bit of something would have been better than nothing.
 
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