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I don't think they will be left out between the P12, B10, and SEC. I see NC St. in the SEC along with VTech. I see Kansas St. possibly in the P12, maybe SEC if the SEC decides to scoop up more of the plains states with maybe Ok St. and Texas Tech.

Under no circumstance would Clemson be left out of such a consolidation. They would be in long before Kansas St.
 
Under no circumstance would Clemson be left out of such a consolidation. They would be in long before Kansas St.

Possibly, I'm not sure where they fit though. SC is such a small state so the SEC is probably a no. I don't think the B10 is going to even bother with SC when NC borders GA anyway. The P12, well, it's not an option for them.
 
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Winchester Buck on Scouts free forum said:
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Re: NCAA / Realignment Discussion (Part V)
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I was wrong. I admit it. My source said the B1G network tv deal would be $30 million / team, two years ago. We didn't realize how good JD is.

Deal will be in the neighborhood of $40 million / team. That number is before BTN, bowls, CFP, etc

Fox's bid is for the less expensive half of tier 1/2. I've been told NBC has also bid $250. ESPN will bid higher to win the rights.

B1G is now looking to move to 20 schools and eliminate the ACC as a P5 (this will mean more CFP money for remaining P5). FSU has the blessing this time around in large part because its a state flagship of a very populous state that is football & college sports crazy. Not too mention, they can and will defeat the ACC GoR and be the first domino. It's coming.

Look for UVA, UNC, and GT to follow. B1G wants ND as #19. Not sure about #20 (may be flexible incase they use it for BC, Duke, KU or UT).
 
TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal i've been following for a few months and enjoys. What's ur read of the scene of best case scenario for big 12?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU I think they are licking their chops ready to pounce on the ACC teams that Big10 does not take.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal that's what I figured. Hoping FSU Clemson Louisville Miami. UCONN for tv reasons

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU FSU sounds like wants the big 10 bad but the others make sense.

ScoBro ‏@scobro1 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU @Bluevodreal switch Georgia Tech for Miami and I would be thrilled

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@scobro1 @TheFrogCastTCU GT sounds like Big 10

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
NCAA catching heat on a rigged vote on the satellite camps. New vote coming and it is starting to get exposed the deception. NCAA corrupt.



C.L.H. ‏@calluke1 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 What happened to your predictions of UCONN to Big12?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 52m52 minutes ago
@calluke1 I still believe Uconn is vital to B12N plans.
 
The money is too high for the ACC and B12 schools to do nothing at this point. When these schools are looking at an additional $20m a year, the money is just way too high. They have to move. AND, any move also means expanding the CFP because the B1G would be too big.
 
The money is too high for ACC and Big 12 teams not to do something....but is the money high enough in the Big Ten where they're not going to see a need to expand any further?

Unless it's Texas and North Carolina, why bother?
 
Under no circumstance would Clemson be left out of such a consolidation. They would be in long before Kansas St.

Depends on what you mean by left out. If the ACC and Big 12 collapse the only landing spots for Clemson are the B1G, SEC, Pac-12 and the 'Misfit Toys' conference.
The SEC already has South Carolina, not sure they would add another SC team.
I don't think the Pac-12 is an option.
I don't see Clemson in the B1G.
That leaves the Misfit Toys. That may not be where Clemson wants to be, but it might be an upgrade from the current ACC, depending on who else ends up there.
 
Depends on what you mean by left out. If the ACC and Big 12 collapse the only landing spots for Clemson are the B1G, SEC, Pac-12 and the 'Misfit Toys' conference.
The SEC already has South Carolina, not sure they would add another SC team.
I don't think the Pac-12 is an option.
I don't see Clemson in the B1G.
That leaves the Misfit Toys. That may not be where Clemson wants to be, but it might be an upgrade from the current ACC, depending on who else ends up there.
Don't look for USC east to welcome Clemson with open arms and support them for SEC membership. Best way I can describe that relationship is UConn/BC
 
Almost an unlimited number of possibilities.

How many teams, if any, does the Pac-12 add? Only a few serious contenders, all of whom would probably prefer the SEC or B1G. I don't see any ACC teams ending up in the Pac-12.

How many does the B1G add? The B1G would likely be the top choice for all potential 'free agents', even Notre Dame would have to strongly consider the B1G if the ACC and Big 12 collapse.

Just throwing some possibilities out there:

B1G adds 6: North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Kansas. Kansas could easily be replaced by Duke or UConn.
SEC adds 2 (maybe 4): Virginia Tech and NC State (also possible is Oklahoma St and Kansas St)
Pac-12 adds 2 (maybe 4): Texas and Texas Tech (also possible is Oklahoma St and Kansas St)

That leaves:
ACC: BC, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, FSU, Clemson, Miami, Wake Forest and Duke
Big 12: Iowa St, Baylor, TCU, West Virginia (and maybe Oklahoma St and Kansas St)

UConn would fit in nicely with that group, if it doesn't end up in the B1G.
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It makes for an intersting map. Maybe kick Wake for Cincy? Clemson would probably end up in the SEC right?
 
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It makes for an interesting map. Maybe kick Wake for Cincy? Clemson would probably end up in the SEC right?

Based on market size, I can see the SEC adding a second team in TX or FL if needed and options such as NC and VA have already been taken (SEC to 20 members) or are not available; but, I can't see the SEC taking a second team in SC. Just too small.
 
The money is too high for ACC and Big 12 teams not to do something....but is the money high enough in the Big Ten where they're not going to see a need to expand any further?

Unless it's Texas and North Carolina, why bother?

Eliminating one conference means more CFP money for the remaining conferences. Also less inventory from competitors re: TV contacts, so those numbers go up even more when bid next time around.
 
Wake Forest has to be very very nervous right now. And, also any non-football powers. BC, Syracuse, Pitt, very nervous. The nightmare for these schools is that the left-outs are all weak in basketball.

Clemson, Miami, VT, NC State might band together with the B12 left behinds. What incentive do they have to add northeast basketball? I don't see why.
 
Wake Forest has to be very very nervous right now. And, also any non-football powers. BC, Syracuse, Pitt, very nervous. The nightmare for these schools is that the left-outs are all weak in basketball.

Clemson, Miami, VT, NC State might band together with the B12 left behinds. What incentive do they have to add northeast basketball? I don't see why.

duck... I'd be nervous if I was Duke. There's no program in the country with a value more overstated than Duke. They're a Coach K retirement and a bad coaching hire away from being irrelevant. Their football program is basically Rutgers. There's a future in which Cameron Indoor isn't historic... and becomes just old.
 
Let's say some of this realignment magic happens. If BC & Syracuse get relagated to a leftover conference, could the B1G miss the opportunity to plant their flag and be the premier conference visiting New England. Considering the whole region, their are plenty of prospective student & athletes. Maybe too many to be ignored. Does nobody see us as a gateway to NE? I've found all this latest realignment talk frustrating. If it plays out like the mooshiners suggest, we're even further isolated and even more desparate for a lifeline.
 
Let's say some of this realignment magic happens. If BC & Syracuse get relagated to a leftover conference, could the B1G miss the opportunity to plant their flag and be the premier conference visiting New England. Considering the whole region, their are plenty of prospective student & athletes. Maybe too many to be ignored. Does nobody see us as a gateway to NE? I've found all this latest realignment talk frustrating. If it plays out like the mooshiners suggest, we're even further isolated and even more desparate for a lifeline.

IMHO UConn is truly at the bottom rung of the conference ladder now so any change can only be a positive.

Think of it this way....would UConn rather be in the American Conference, as the most valuable program in a low value conference without any regional rivalries, making 2 million a year or be in a northeast-centric conference with schools like BC, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Cincinnati, Louisville etc while making around $20 million a year? The BIG/SEC/PAC can't take everyone and the leftovers would be much valuable and in line with UConn than most of the current AAC members.

The dream is the BIG but status quo is the nightmare. Right now UConn is living the nightmare. Maybe the BIG moves to lock up the NE or maybe the BIG decides to by pass it entirely. Either way, conference movement is our friend. And yes, if we miss on the next re-alignment, we will be emotionally double crushed. But, no matter how any future realignment shakes out, UConn cannot end up worse than it currently is in the AAC.

Now we just need realignment to begin again. The conference money disparity increases that happening.
 
Wake Forest has to be very very nervous right now. And, also any non-football powers. BC, Syracuse, Pitt, very nervous. The nightmare for these schools is that the left-outs are all weak in basketball.

Clemson, Miami, VT, NC State might band together with the B12 left behinds. What incentive do they have to add northeast basketball? I don't see why.

The Frankenstein Conference will need a TV deal to make money. Many of the teams will be in areas that are overlaid by the SEC and B1G, as a result they will be second fiddle in much of their own footprint. Adding UConn, BC and Syracuse gives them a unique footprint in New England and also gets them exposure in NY.
 
Depends on what you mean by left out. If the ACC and Big 12 collapse the only landing spots for Clemson are the B1G, SEC, Pac-12 and the 'Misfit Toys' conference.
The SEC already has South Carolina, not sure they would add another SC team.
I don't think the Pac-12 is an option.
I don't see Clemson in the B1G.
That leaves the Misfit Toys. That may not be where Clemson wants to be, but it might be an upgrade from the current ACC, depending on who else ends up there.

You have a point, if you can explain to me why both the ACC and the Big 12 collapse. I see no reason for the ACC to go away. If it does, the teams left would join the Big 12 or AAC and create another rather formidable conference. And, the networks still need content. Those Misfit Toys would form a nice conference with a large footprint and solid fan bases.
 
Greg S w aim ‏@G S wa im · 37m37 minutes ago
Can't blame #UT for taking #LHN offer from ESPN...anyone would. But unless converting it to #Big12 Network soon, the conference is dead!!

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 34m34 minutes ago
#Big12 baseball example of how Olympic sports getting killed by lack of TV coverage, compared to other conferences Weak as it's ever been.

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 33m33 minutes ago
#UT should still get lions share of revenue until #LHN ends. but that is the main sticking point, and not sure it can be overcome.

Greg S wa im ‏@G S wa im · 22m22 minutes ago
I suppose the rest of the #Big12 teans can thank their lucky stars that #UT is so bad in most sports now...much less leverage for them.
 
Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4h4 hours ago
Big12 your on the clock. Tic Tock

Matthew D Carlson ‏@mcgoblue 4h4 hours ago
@Bluevodreal realignment clock? 1 or 2 teams leaving?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4h4 hours ago
@mcgoblue Blood in the water they need to pounce.

Joe Byrd ‏@JAByrd2000 3h3 hours ago
@Bluevodreal OU on its way out unless they act?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@JAByrd2000 it looked like it awhile ago but looks like Big 12 is going to hang on and become the Hunter with Big10. Things can always chang

Joe Byrd ‏@JAByrd2000 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal smart move by both conferences. Can essentially kill the ACC and avoid any litigation.

Genetics56 ‏@Genetics56 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @JAByrd2000 if the ACC schools go to the B1G, then the Big 12 will take the rest of the ACC schools.

BrewDog ‏@BrewDog44 1h1 hour ago
@Genetics56 @Bluevodreal @JAByrd2000 Hearing B12 takes Clemson & Miami. ACC backfills with AAC teams

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 1h1 hour ago
@BrewDog44 @Genetics56 @JAByrd2000 sounds about right. Still hear UVA NC GT FSU. to bigten with ND in play.

BrewDog ‏@BrewDog44 55m55 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @JAByrd2000 ACC might backfill with UCONN, UC, UCF, USF, ECU and Memphis or Houston

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal so you think B12 goes first to add or be added? I'm late to your feed so I'm sorry I don't k ow you're assumptions.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal but no ACCN and GOR breach go together I assume.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU yes ESPN said No and no other is willing to hard to make money. So GOR is toast.ACC tried to get them to sign new GOR no go.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 2h2 hours ago
@TheFrogCastTCU I think Big 12 is on the hunt.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 2h2 hours ago
@Bluevodreal on the hunt for ACC. Good to hear

Jared Rummel ‏@JaredRummel 3h3 hours ago
@Bluevodreal why is nobody else talking about this?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 3h3 hours ago
@JaredRummel They are starting to now.



MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 13m13 minutes ago
Getting some more rumors that could be a completely different shift for both B12 and ACC-could even affect SEC. Stay tuned.


ME: the cray-cray being turned up a notch...as if that was possible. :D
 

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