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That arrangement would never happen. Kansas would go B1G rather than Pac and Pac would be just as happy with ISU+KSU as with doubling down in Kansas. B1G would much prefer Kansas to doubling down in Iowa. So big gains to switching Kansas and ISU.
 
pj said:
That arrangement would never happen. Kansas would go B1G rather than Pac and Pac would be just as happy with ISU+KSU as with doubling down in Kansas. B1G would much prefer Kansas to doubling down in Iowa. So big gains to switching Kansas and ISU.
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If there is critical thought involved, then the B1G should prefer UConn to Kansas or ISU or nearly anyone else.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
#WVU to #ACC,
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If the ACC was going to consider adding WVU they would be in that conference already.

The traditional ACC stuffed shirts view WVU with such disdain that they'll never be considered.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If the ACC was going to consider adding WVU they would be in that conference already.

The traditional ACC stuffed shirts view WVU with such disdain that they'll never be considered.
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All true, but sadly, I think WVU has more in common with the traditional ACC -- or even the expanded ACC through 2011 -- than Louisville did (and fits in a tighter travel footprint, too).
 
Sea Goat said:
If there is critical thought involved, then the B1G should prefer UConn to Kansas or ISU or nearly anyone else.
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If the B1G could pick anyone they want, UConn would be between 4th and 6th on the list with Texas, UNC & UVA clearly ahead and grouped with Oklahoma and G Tech. U Texas brings football (or so they say), AAU and Texas's population (#2 - 27 million)to the B1G. UNC brings arguably the biggest basketball brand name (UNC deserving the death penalty aside), AAU, and North Carolina's growing population (#9 - just under 10 million). UVA brings AAU and allows the B1G to encircle the influential DC market. Oklahoma brings football cred; but, no AAU and a state, while growing, is not affluent and is just ahead in population (#28 - 3.9 million) over CT #29 - 3.8 million). But, if Oklahoma is part of the package to get Texas, then they pull way ahead. Georgia Tech brings some football history, AAU status, major research money, and access to Georgia' population (#8 - 10 million); but, they are a distant #2 in GA behind the Bulldogs. Thus, how the B1G values those aspects in comparison to UConn (basketball brand, access to NYC & Boston, hockey, and near AAU status) would be the question. I believe that Kansas would actually be behind UConn with equal weight in basketball, but located in a smaller (#34 - 2.9 million) in a low growth state and less sports to offer (no hockey, no soccer, football about the same, not likely to add lax).
 
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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
As I mentioned on Tuesday.
Couple of items we were told on ACCN
1) Announcement of ACCN before 2015 FB season is over.
2) Launch for August.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
3) Shorter run-up between announcement and launch of ACCN vs SECN in May 2013- Aug 2014.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
4) for a subscription ACCN-ESPN are looking at different options to give to consumers different camera views of FB games.toggle back n forth

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
We were given a ;5)but we don't understand what was told to us. Something along the lines of permanent TV video structure at each ACC school

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
The launch date of August 2016 is only question mark according to what was told. But announcement is in the hopper.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
If the B1G could pick anyone they want, UConn would be between 4th and 6th on the list with Texas, UNC & UVA clearly ahead and grouped with Oklahoma and G Tech. U Texas brings football (or so they say), AAU and Texas's population (#2 - 27 million)to the B1G. UNC brings arguably the biggest basketball brand name (UNC deserving the death penalty aside), AAU, and North Carolina's growing population (#9 - just under 10 million). UVA brings AAU and allows the B1G to encircle the influential DC market. Oklahoma brings football cred; but, no AAU and a state, while growing, is not affluent and is just ahead in population (#28 - 3.9 million) over CT #29 - 3.8 million). But, if Oklahoma is part of the package to get Texas, then they pull way ahead. Georgia Tech brings some football history, AAU status, major research money, and access to Georgia' population (#8 - 10 million); but, they are a distant #2 in GA behind the Bulldogs. Thus, how the B1G values those aspects in comparison to UConn (basketball brand, access to NYC & Boston, hockey, and near AAU status) would be the question. I believe that Kansas would actually be behind UConn with equal weight in basketball, but located in a smaller (#34 - 2.9 million) in a low growth state and less sports to offer (no hockey, no soccer, football about the same, not likely to add lax).
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Very good post but Uconn's position should be higher IMO due to eastern demo and wealth....I could see an OKIE/UCONN or VT/Uconn add to achieve B1g type longterm goals ...of course Texas is desirable to many but would want too many concessions and NC academic problems make them toxic now making UConn more appealing. 1 east and 1 south or west for now in my opinion.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If the ACC was going to consider adding WVU they would be in that conference already.

The traditional ACC stuffed shirts view WVU with such disdain that they'll never be considered.
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How stuffed can those shirts be if they took Louisville?
 
NickyNewark said:
Very good post but Uconn's position should be higher IMO due to eastern demo and wealth....I could see an OKIE/UCONN or VT/Uconn add to achieve B1g type longterm goals ...of course Texas is desirable to many but would want too many concessions and NC academic problems make them toxic now making UConn more appealing. 1 east and 1 south or west for now in my opinion.
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No argument from me. I was looking at this from a clean slate, i.e. no politics (yeah right), no GOR, etc. Basically evaluating a Christmas list for the B1G assuming certain constraints, like geography (the B1G is not going to poach UCLA from the PAC) and schools in the SEC would not likely leave that home for the B1G (my own belief that Missouri may and the wider internet rumor that Vanderbilt would aside).
 
MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
B12 expansion committee leaders have either visited or called all candidates this week.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
Decision makers have been inundated with data and has Fox on their side helping with television numbers

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
WVU president is confident that B12 will expand by at least two in the near future.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
Committee is especially impressed with what Memphis has been able to do with their program in only a few years. FedEx money nice too

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
Baylor is pushing hard for Houston and BYU still has a lot of support as well.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 9h9 hours ago
ESPN may be trying to block BYU addition by encouraging them to hold out for all sports invite.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 8h8 hours ago
@CalGTR ESPN pays less to BYU for the content they get then would if BYU were to join B12

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 8h8 hours ago
@CalGTR not saying they don't have a good relationship just hearing that ESPN is trying to block a move

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 8h8 hours ago
@CalGTR also not in ESPN best interests for B12 to strengthen

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 8h8 hours ago
@CalGTR ESPN has cast their lot with ACC for better or worse

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 6h6 hours ago
@rodfarley it's a money thing. B12 dissolving after GOR expires is in ESPN best interests.hopes to ferret UT OU WVU KU to other places

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 6h6 hours ago
@rodfarley get the teams they want most without another huge TV deal for B12

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 5h5 hours ago
@ronnie_walls gut feeling is that we go to four with UC UCF BYU and Boise. Adds the most TV sets and the best competition.

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 5h5 hours ago
@ronnie_walls but I believe the western additions will be in football only
 
Sea Goat said:
How stuffed can those shirts be if they took Louisville?
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Not a bad point as WVU's academic profile is clearly ahead of Louisville's. The thing is the ACC schools in question (UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake) have had this view of WVU for a century. Louisville only hit their radar recently.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
Not a bad point as WVU's academic profile is clearly ahead of Louisville's. The thing is the ACC schools in question (UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake) have had this view of WVU for a century. Louisville only hit their radar recently.
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Precisely. Nobody in the ACC had given much thought to Louisville at all until recently. UVA in particulary has been looking down on WVU forever.
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@Expansion_Crush Look at this provision in the WVU-Pitt contract.

http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 9m9 minutes ago
http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg …
@Expansion_Crush
that is to protect WVU in case of B12 implosion before 2020. If implosion happens....WVU in ACC.
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Weird, Freudian choice of words. As written, it implies that each team has a conference realignment. Probably should have read "conference affiliation" or "a realignment of their conference."

We're probably reading too much into this. I'd bet that our contracts with Missouri, Virginia, Syracuse, Illinois and Indiana include the same or similar provisions.
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@Expansion_Crush Look at this provision in the WVU-Pitt contract.

http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 9m9 minutes ago
http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg …
@Expansion_Crush
that is to protect WVU in case of B12 implosion before 2020. If implosion happens....WVU in ACC.
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So....... if WVU enters the ACC, thy won't have to play Pittsburgh....... umm....
 
jostar1 said:
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13h13 hours ago
@Expansion_Crush Look at this provision in the WVU-Pitt contract.

http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 9m9 minutes ago
http://blogs.wvgazettemail.com/wvu/files/2015/09/expansion.jpg …
@Expansion_Crush
that is to protect WVU in case of B12 implosion before 2020. If implosion happens....WVU in ACC.
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Why would realignment prevent WVU from playing Pitt? Maybe if the B12 or ACC goes to a 10 game conference schedule ... or if they are in the same conference and not in the same division? But ACC teams are scheduling each other non-conference these days. It is an odd provision, especially since it is so vague.
 
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If The ACCN actually comes to fruition WVU to The ACC actually makes sense. It helps stabilize the market share they lost when UMD went to The B1G, and would provide the network with two established rivalry games against Pitt and WVU for potential broadcast.
 
Ldandy said:
If The ACCN actually comes to fruition WVU to The ACC actually makes sense. It helps stabilize the market share they lost when UMD went to The B1G, and would provide the network with two established rivalry games against Pitt and WVU for potential broadcast.
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Don't VT and WVU have some sort of a rivalry as well?
 
WVU had rivalries with Pitt and VT both.

The Backyard Brawl game with Pitt...and the Black Diamond Trophy game with VT.
 
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If the Big 12 implodes we can look forward to playing West Virginia but it won't be as conference mates in the P4.
 
Sea Goat said:
How stuffed can those shirts be if they took Louisville?
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The landscape changed after they turned WVU down. In hindsight, they would prefer WVU to Louisville for sure. It's even academically superior and is at least a flagship public U (if not a great one). By the way, the B12 would prefer Louisville. It's too bad they can't work out a trade.

In a world that made sense, the ACC would trade Louisville and Pittsburgh to the Big XII for WVU and agreement not to recruit ACC schools for 10 years. Then the ACC would add UConn, and Big XII Cinci.
 
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CL82 said:
Kind of a big jump there don't you think?
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My guess is that kind of language is more of a boilerplate these days in all game contracts due to the volatile nature of conference realignment than it is an indication that one or both teams may be on the verge of moving.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
My guess is that kind of language is more of a boilerplate these days in all game contracts due to the volatile nature of conference realignment than it is an indication that one or both teams may be on the verge of moving.
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Yep. It's the conclusion that WVU ends up in the ACC that I found to be a jump.
 
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