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Once you mention Air Force you know it can't be true... they would never give money to their players. Nor would the players take it. That is not what those fine men and women are there for. Still don't get why this would happen now and not earlier when first proposed? How is this good for Uconn... sure the football league
looks better but adding schools with horrible academics will be a bad move. Plus Cincy is gone to Big 12. I am certain of it once this D4 takes place. You want to see Uconn out on an even "bigger island" try that league on for size. Only way is to do football only and the rest find a better basketball league.
 
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Once you mention Air Force you know it can't be true... they would never give money to their players. Nor would the players take it. That is not what those fine men and women are there for. Still don't get why this would happen now and not earlier when first proposed? How is this good for Uconn... sure the football league
looks better but adding schools with horrible academics will be a bad move. Plus Cincy is gone to Big 12. I am certain of it once this D4 takes place. You want to see Uconn out on an even "bigger island" try that league on for size. Only way is to do football only and the rest find a better basketball league.
Aren't all service academy students considered on active duty and actually earn a salary while in school.
So their players are already bring paid.
 
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Listen up. Solid - set in stone. If your school isn’t in the AAU the B1G isn’t interested.

So there!

Last night he said that the B!G was looking at UCONN!
 
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Last night he said that the B!G was looking at UCONN!

24 hours is a long time. Maybe the big ten is done "vetting" UConn. I wish I coulda heard the radio show, just to put in perspective what were dealing with.
 

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What we shouldn't be doing is giving any credibility to a blogger from West Virginia whose avitar looks like jesus smoking pot.
 

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24 hours is a long time. Maybe the big ten is done "vetting" UConn. I wish I coulda heard the radio show, just to put in perspective what were dealing with.

Really? It's all made up. Every last bit of it. He makes it up so people post in threads like this and listen to his blabber. There is not a single bit of truth in a world he says. His sources are the voices in his head.
 

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Really? It's all made up. Every last bit of it. He makes it up so people post in threads like this and listen to his blabber. There is not a single bit of truth in a world he says. His sources are the voices in his head.
Oh, there is truth in what he says. He makes up enough BS for 1% of it to wind up being related to the truth. But you're right that the rest of it is to get people to follow, retweet and repost his BS. That's why he mentions as many different schools as possible - like Air Force - to get a wider audience.
 
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Really? It's all made up. Every last bit of it. He makes it up so people post in threads like this and listen to his blabber. There is not a single bit of truth in a world he says. His sources are the voices in his head.
No ! I was mocking that yesterday he says were on the radar and today were out.
 
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Clarification: B1G source says conf has only done due diligence on potential members who have AAU status. Will not consider those not AAU.
 

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I'm with you, Kyle. Screenshot provided for informational/entertainment purposes only. :)
 
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I'm with you, Kyle. Screenshot provided for informational/entertainment purposes only. :)


Totally understandable. Wasn't really taking issue with it being posted as much showing as it's shaky info.

I know for certain the Big Ten has done research on Connecticut, Oklahoma and Florida State. And none of the three are AAU members. So right away, his comment "B1G source says conf has only done due diligence on potential members who have AAU status. Will not consider those not AAU" is mistaken.
 
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Totally understandable. Wasn't really taking issue with it being posted as much showing as it's shaky info.

I know for certain the Big Ten has done research on Connecticut, Oklahoma and Florida State. And none of the three are AAU members. So right away, his comment "B1G source says conf has only done due diligence on potential members who have AAU status. Will not consider those not AAU" is mistaken.

Absolutely right. AAU and contiguous state are desirable factors but not an absolute requirement.

"There are no restrictions regarding expansion - potential additions are not required to be in the AAU, and they do not have to be in (or adjacent to) the eight Big Ten states," league spokesman Scott Chipman wrote in an e-mail. Removing the AAU and geographic limitations means the Big Ten can add any school from anywhere in the country.

http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/525178.html?nav=742
 
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Let's consider for a moment the options here for the B1G if AAU is an absolute requirement. Who are two from this list for B1G expansion?
Non FBS schools: no
PAC 12 schools: no
ACC and Big 12 schools under GOR: B1G willing to challenge GOR?
SEC schools: willing to switch to B1G?
Non football or basketball brand schools: B1G willing to take?
AAU Member Institutions and Years of Admission
http://www.aau.edu/about/default.aspx?id=5476
Boston University (2012) NO , NOT FBS
Brandeis University (1985)
NO , NOT FBS
Brown University (1933)
NO , NOT FBS
California Institute of Technology (1934)
NO , NOT FBS
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
NO , NOT FBS
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
NO , NOT FBS
Columbia University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Cornell University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Duke University (1938)
ACC
Emory University (1995)
NO , NOT FBS
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
ACC
Harvard University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Indiana University (1909)
B1G
Iowa State University (1958)
BIG 12
The Johns Hopkins University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS and B1G for affiliate in lacrosse only
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
NO , NOT FBS
McGill University (1926)
NO , NOT FBS
Michigan State University (1964)
B1G
New York University (1950)
NO , NOT FBS
Northwestern University (1917)
B1G
The Ohio State University (1916)
B1G
The Pennsylvania State University (1958)
B1G
Princeton University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Purdue University (1958)
B1G
Rice University (1985)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
B1G
Stanford University (1900)
PAC 12
Stony Brook University-State University of New York (2001)
NO , NOT FBS
Texas A&M University (2001) SEC
Tulane University (1958)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
The University of Arizona (1985)
PAC 12
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
PAC 12
University of California, Davis (1996)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Irvine (1996)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
PAC 12
University of California, San Diego (1982)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
NO , NOT FBS
The University of Chicago (1900)
NO , NOT FBS and B1G for academics only
University of Colorado Boulder (1966)
PAC 12
University of Florida (1985) SEC
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
B1G
The University of Iowa (1909)
B1G
The University of Kansas (1909)
BIG 12
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
B1G
University of Michigan (1900)
B1G
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
B1G
University of Missouri-Columbia (1908) SEC
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
ACC
University of Oregon (1969)
PAC 12
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Pittsburgh (1974)
ACC
University of Rochester (1941)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Southern California (1969)
PAC 12
The University of Texas at Austin (1929)
BIG 12
University of Toronto (1926)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Virginia (1904)
ACC
University of Washington (1950)
PAC 12
The University of Wisconsin-Madison (1900)
B1G
Vanderbilt University (1950) SEC
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
NO , NOT FBS
Yale University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
 
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Absolutely right. AAU and contiguous state are desirable factors but not an absolute requirement.

"There are no restrictions regarding expansion - potential additions are not required to be in the AAU, and they do not have to be in (or adjacent to) the eight Big Ten states," league spokesman Scott Chipman wrote in an e-mail. Removing the AAU and geographic limitations means the Big Ten can add any school from anywhere in the country.

http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/525178.html?nav=742

I wish this could get pinned to the top of the board.
 
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It's somewhat disappointing UConn isn't AAU, lots of other schools it's at least equivalent or better than academically are.

Let's consider for a moment the options here for the B1G if AAU is an absolute requirement. Who are two from this list for B1G expansion?
Non FBS schools: no
PAC 12 schools: no
ACC and Big 12 schools under GOR: B1G willing to challenge GOR?
SEC schools: willing to switch to B1G?
Non football or basketball brand schools: B1G willing to take?
AAU Member Institutions and Years of Admission
http://www.aau.edu/about/default.aspx?id=5476
Boston University (2012) NO , NOT FBS
Brandeis University (1985)
NO , NOT FBS
Brown University (1933)
NO , NOT FBS
California Institute of Technology (1934)
NO , NOT FBS
Carnegie Mellon University (1982)
NO , NOT FBS
Case Western Reserve University (1969)
NO , NOT FBS
Columbia University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Cornell University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Duke University (1938)
ACC
Emory University (1995)
NO , NOT FBS
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
ACC
Harvard University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Indiana University (1909)
B1G
Iowa State University (1958)
BIG 12
The Johns Hopkins University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS and B1G for affiliate in lacrosse only
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1934)
NO , NOT FBS
McGill University (1926)
NO , NOT FBS
Michigan State University (1964)
B1G
New York University (1950)
NO , NOT FBS
Northwestern University (1917)
B1G
The Ohio State University (1916)
B1G
The Pennsylvania State University (1958)
B1G
Princeton University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
Purdue University (1958)
B1G
Rice University (1985)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
B1G
Stanford University (1900)
PAC 12
Stony Brook University-State University of New York (2001)
NO , NOT FBS
Texas A&M University (2001) SEC
Tulane University (1958)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
The University of Arizona (1985)
PAC 12
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
NOT A FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL BRAND
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
PAC 12
University of California, Davis (1996)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Irvine (1996)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
PAC 12
University of California, San Diego (1982)
NO , NOT FBS
University of California, Santa Barbara (1995)
NO , NOT FBS
The University of Chicago (1900)
NO , NOT FBS and B1G for academics only
University of Colorado Boulder (1966)
PAC 12
University of Florida (1985) SEC
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (1908)
B1G
The University of Iowa (1909)
B1G
The University of Kansas (1909)
BIG 12
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
B1G
University of Michigan (1900)
B1G
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities (1908)
B1G
University of Missouri-Columbia (1908) SEC
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
ACC
University of Oregon (1969)
PAC 12
University of Pennsylvania (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Pittsburgh (1974)
ACC
University of Rochester (1941)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Southern California (1969)
PAC 12
The University of Texas at Austin (1929)
BIG 12
University of Toronto (1926)
NO , NOT FBS
University of Virginia (1904)
ACC
University of Washington (1950)
PAC 12
The University of Wisconsin-Madison (1900)
B1G
Vanderbilt University (1950) SEC
Washington University in St. Louis (1923)
NO , NOT FBS
Yale University (1900)
NO , NOT FBS
 

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Clarification: B1G source says conf has only done due diligence on potential members who have AAU status. Will not consider those not AAU.

This is known to be a false statement.
 
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The Dude is full of it but one thing to remember in general is that the Conference Commissioner is not the final decision maker - the member school presidents are. It's the main reason why the Pac-16 didn't happen even though Larry Scott was still pushing for it after Texas dropped out.

Delany supposedly has a list of pre-approved schools (basically AAU schools+ND) - all others need to be vetted by the school presidents.
 
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Delany supposedly has a list of pre-approved schools (basically AAU schools+ND) - all others need to be vetted by the school presidents.

I have heard this as well.

It is difficult for me to see how UConn, although non AAU, would not at least be "vetted" by the B1G if the conference does indeed want to expand heading into the negotiations for new media rights.
This in particular if you consider the oft talked about AAU member universities that are candidates for B1G membership and their potential obstacles combined with UConn being a flagship state public research university in a region now of great interest to the B1G and a basketball brand with a demonstrated commitment to not only "pursue championships" but win them.

1. Vanderbilt. A southern school and a founding member of the SEC dating back to 1932. To the best of my knowledge no indication of dissatisfaction with the SEC or financial concerns a la Maryland and the ACC.

2. Missouri. I'll just quote Frank the Tank on this one.

Two things:
(1) The Big Ten has passed on Missouri over and over and over and over and over again. I can't tell you how many times the Big Ten rejected Mizzou even when that school was openly hiking up its skirt to get Jim Delany's attention. Regardless of Gee's personal opinion, the league simply doesn't want them. That's not my personal choice (as I think they're serviceable in a potential 16-school Big Ten), but their actions have continuously shown that they want nothing to do with Mizzou. UConn has a better chance of getting an ACC invite at this point than Mizzou getting an invite from the Big Ten.
(2) I'm as big of a Big Ten guy as anyone, but even I'm not enough of a homer to believe that anyone is going to leave the SEC. That league is as ironclad as the Big Ten itself and ESPN will be paying that league a mint with the new SEC Network. The Big Ten will probably still make more than the SEC in terms of media revenue at the end of the day, but it's nowhere near the advantage compared to the ACC and Big 12. From a contractual perspective, the SEC may end up with a grant of rights prior to the launch of the SEC Network, anyway.

3. Duke, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia. All voted in favor of a raise in the exit fee and signed the ACC GOR. Not the actions of schools desiring to leave the ACC.

4. Texas with the Big 12 GOR and potential political pressure in regard to Texas Tech whom the B1G would not accept.

5. Kansas with the B1g 12 GOR and potential political pressure in regard to Kansas State whom the B1G would not accept.

AAU members Rice, Tulane and UB are certainly options but it is difficult for me to see the B1G taking interest in these universities given none are football or basketball brands.
 

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The only statement that worries me is the one where he says looking to add markets. Technically once they are in New York and the cable providers down there we are less attractive.
 
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There's a lot of noise made about the upcoming media deals but I think the Big Ten's willing to wait another decade or two if it means pulling in a major Big 12/ACC school further down the line. If the upcoming deal is another 10 year deal like the current one it'll be up around 2027 , just a few years after both GoRs are up.

In the short term, UConn's best scenario is the emergence of a viable #16 (which currently doesn't exist) and Rutgers + Current Big Ten schools being reasonably successful in NYC but just fall just short of getting full coverage with major cable providers (like 80-90% to landing a deal with TWC & Comcast). Then the marginal benefit for UConn is very high and will likely be enough to get them in. If they aren't anywhere close to landing a deal then there is no guarantee that UConn will get them in so it's likely that they'd pass and bide their time.
 

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If Big 12 expansion includes Cincy and Texas doesn't take off because of it... I just don't want to think about what that means to us. To many inter moving parts to get us out.
 

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Just brainstorming here ... but what if a school like Kansas agreed in 2014 to join the B1G when its GoR expired in 2025. Would the B1G take UConn in 2015 and play at 15 for ten years waiting for Kansas to join? Supposing UConn adds enough value in the northeast to improve the TV contracts. What if Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas agreed? That would be too good to pass up.

Football scheduling with 15 teams may work out about as well as 14. 3 pods of 5 teams, 4 games in pod and 5 rotating games among the other ten pod members means every two years you play the whole league and every four years do home and home. You just have to choose a method to pick the conference championship game participants -- two highest ranked pod champions?
 

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