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This year will see the opening of the media wars...and the non P2 will not be happy.

The media giants will use their bandwidth to promote their main properties. The new P2 will be really squeezing the time slots starting with the 2024 season.

It will be the rollout of the FOX vs ESPN wars. FOX and ESPN will have their separate run of games every Saturday (noon, 3:30, evening time slots). For the first time in quite some time, ESPN has no B10 inventory. ESPN/ABC will heavily feature their SEC property...including their buying of the SEC Game of the Week.

Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time.

NBC will have Notre Dame as a lead in game before their new property, the Big Ten Game of the Week which holds a prime time slot.

The media value of every non p2 school is going to drop simply because of lack of access to the best cable channels at the best time slots. Of course this was always true, but the number of best time slots is not increasing but the number of teams - and good match ups - has gone up for the P2. And their networks are paying more than before. It's just arithmetic providing more focus on the issue.

JMHO...
 
billybud said:
This year will see the opening of the media wars...and the non P2 will not be happy.

The media giants will use their bandwidth to promote their main properties. The new P2 will be really squeezing the time slots starting with the 2024 season.

It will be the rollout of the FOX vs ESPN wars. FOX and ESPN will have their separate run of games every Saturday (noon, 3:30, evening time slots). For the first time in quite some time, ESPN has no B10 inventory. ESPN/ABC will heavily feature their SEC property...including their buying of the SEC Game of the Week.

Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time.

NBC will have Notre Dame as a lead in game before their new property, the Big Ten Game of the Week which holds a prime time slot.

The media value of every non p2 school is going to drop simply because of lack of access to the best cable channels at the best time slots. Of course this was always true, but the number of best time slots is not increasing but the number of teams - and good match ups - has gone up for the P2. And their networks are paying more than before. It's just arithmetic providing more focus on the issue.

JMHO...
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We talk about contracts and GOR and media deals. The ACC programs are locked into the ACC because of the GOR. To me it seems the ACC and espn are not holding up their ends of the contracts. if what you laid out is true, then the ACC programs are being shafted because espn is not providing the media coverage expected. There has to be something to this.
 
Forte said:
Is he joking? How old is he to sound like he is near end of life?
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Before he blocked me, he said he was born with some condition and now he is in his 50s. He spends most of his day on ventilator.

I can’t imagine being on my deathbed and making fake realignment tweets.
 
billybud said:
This year will see the opening of the media wars...and the non P2 will not be happy.

The media giants will use their bandwidth to promote their main properties. The new P2 will be really squeezing the time slots starting with the 2024 season.

It will be the rollout of the FOX vs ESPN wars. FOX and ESPN will have their separate run of games every Saturday (noon, 3:30, evening time slots). For the first time in quite some time, ESPN has no B10 inventory. ESPN/ABC will heavily feature their SEC property...including their buying of the SEC Game of the Week.

Beginning in 2024, ABC will air an SEC game every week, including a regular late-afternoon kickoff, and will have the option to feature an SEC game on ABC's Saturday Night Football for the first time.

NBC will have Notre Dame as a lead in game before their new property, the Big Ten Game of the Week which holds a prime time slot.

The media value of every non p2 school is going to drop simply because of lack of access to the best cable channels at the best time slots. Of course this was always true, but the number of best time slots is not increasing but the number of teams - and good match ups - has gone up for the P2. And their networks are paying more than before. It's just arithmetic providing more focus on the issue.

JMHO...
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Billy,

This is where I have a real problem:

For decades the P - 5 (now 4) have been complicit with the broadcast networks, continually increasing payouts to the P-5 at the expense of those who were not P-5, basically saying "we will feed the big boys, everyone is gets scraps". Now, that this is continuing, but some who thought they would always be "big boys" are finding out that they are in line for marginalization, they are crying "this isn't fair". You can't claim a system is unfair only because you've found yourself on the wrong side of it.

If you were a proponent of the rules when you weren't among the disadvantaged you can't complain about them now. Today they're concentrating all of the real money among the P-2. Once this step has been completed, they will then segregate their conferences into those who do and thosewho do not warrant top payouts. We'll hear a number of B1G and SEC schools complain about how unfair this is when that happens.
 
probably the first "peaceful" way they'll do it is to give payout bonuses to programs making the college football playoffs

edit: we've seen how Texas behaves. It'll only take a few really good years before they start asking for extra pie
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Billy,

This is where I have a real problem:

For decades the P - 5 (now 4) have been complicit with the broadcast networks, continually increasing payouts to the P-5 at the expense of those who were not P-5, basically saying "we will feed the big boys, everyone is gets scraps". Now, that this is continuing, but some who thought they would always be "big boys" are finding out that they are in line for marginalization, they are crying "this isn't fair". You can't claim a system is unfair only because you've found yourself on the wrong side of it.

If you were a proponent of the rules when you weren't among the disadvantaged you can't complain about them now. Today they're concentrating all of the real money among the P-2. Once this step has been completed, they will then segregate their conferences into those who do and thosewho do not warrant top payouts. We'll hear a number of B1G and SEC schools complain about how unfair this is when that happens.
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Oh gee. I lay out facts. It isn’t a complaint….it is a prediction.
 
ZooCougar said:
Before he blocked me, he said he was born with some condition and now he is in his 50s. He spends most of his day on ventilator.

I can’t imagine being on my deathbed and making fake realignment tweets.
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Sounds like Cystic Fibrosis
 
And...it is the way the world works...

To be successful in the long run, an organization must understand the environment and future trends and plan for that future. Disney is in the thores of that now...planning for a future of their industry that may look very different in 20 years.

A lot of us saw this coming. FSU saw what was going to happen and are fighting the good fight to stay in the upper loop. Heck, UConn tried to do the same but their lawsuit went nowhere. And, then the program did not prosecute their case by performing in the AAC.

For Clemson and FSU there was no choice other than doing nothing and joining the ranks of Wake Forest, Cuse, Virginia, BC, etc. and be assigned to the shadow land of football's hinterland.
 
Forte said:
Is he joking? How old is he to sound like he is near end of life?
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He is in hospice care. He tweeted about it in January.


GREG SWAIM SHOW@GSwaim
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Just officially began hospice yesterday, so keep those prayers coming!!



GREG SWAIM SHOW
@GSwaim
I haven't advertised this, but 57 years after doctors in Columbus, Ohio told my parents that I probably wouldn't live to 20, they apparently were only off by 41-plus years.

I'm going into hospice soon, but really don't know exactly how long I have...so will compete until the day I go home.

I'm now on a ventilator 23-plus hours daily in bed (why I have so much time to post on social media and watch sports ), but very comfortable at this point and enjoying my family.

I really delayed posting this, because I'll get the traditional "I'm so sorry..." and that's fine, but what I'd rather get from those I grew up with, went to college with, and those I've known since the 90's to share a favorite memory with you that I may have forgotten!!

I'm very much at peace with this, as it was inevitable at some point, and I've been able to do so many things in a profession that I've created and love...and two of my sons will take over the family business and no doubt will take it to an entirely new level.

I do believe strongly in prayer, and will take anything you've got, but DO NOT feel bad for me, as I've done so much and have been so blessed with family and friends in my 61-plus years.

Ok, now that I've got that off my chest, let's talk sports...and bring it, as you know I definitely will
9:09 PM · Jan 29, 2024
from Oklahoma, USA


Lynn Ketelsen@Lynn_Ketelsen
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Jan 30
Greg, what is your condition?



GREG SWAIM SHOW@GSwaim
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Feb 3
Nemaline Myopathy
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Anyone with access to the athletic want to give the synopsis?
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Arguably the hottest topic at conference meetings and inside college athletic departments this month is how schools will handle the most groundbreaking element of a settlement in the House v. NCAA antitrust lawsuit: a revenue-sharing agreement that will allow schools to distribute roughly $20-23 million annually to their athletes beginning in 2025. The assumption is that football players will get the biggest piece of the pie within almost every athletic department, but men’s basketball is expected to be second in line, and its coaches are already wondering what their allotment looks like.

Since seemingly every school will decide for itself, one league at the high-major level could have a distinct advantage: the Big East, a conference that does not sponsor football.

“I don’t think any of us have the answer to it yet, but I think we do feel good about our position,” Xavier coach Sean Miller told The Athletic last week at Nike’s Peach Jam, the biggest basketball recruiting event of the year. This topic came up often there and at Big East coaches meetings. “In so many ways, it works to our advantage. The good thing about being in the Big East is it’s about one sport. I shouldn’t say one sport, but I think the importance of college basketball is at the top and after what just happened in the landscape of college sports, it puts us in a very unique position.”

What if, while the SEC and Big Ten continue their football-first arms race, those basketball-centric Big East schools decided to give the bulk of the allowed revenue share to their primary sport?

“That’s a problem,” Oats said, his eyes widening at the thought. “As long as it’s equitable across all the high-major schools, you’re fine. But if one’s got $22 million and one’s got $5 million, that’s a problem. We’re not going to be able to compete. They haven’t thought everything through.”

Florida coach Todd Golden said SEC basketball coaches have been buzzing about this nightmare scenario since last year.

“You have all these great basketball schools that have no football they have to take care of,” Golden said, “so yeah, definitely, we are worried about that.”

According to documents filed Friday detailing the settlement agreement, schools will be able to voluntarily distribute up to 22 percent of the average power-conference school’s annual revenue each season from media rights, ticket sales and sponsorships. It’s unlikely any school would devote all of that to just one sport, and it’s not a given that every school will have the maximum to work with — each athletic department has to find the money. Coaches have a lot of questions about how exactly that’s going to work.

And although Big East coaches like that they do not have to split their in-house NIL pool with football, their media deals and athletic department revenues dwarf those in the Big Ten or SEC.

When UConn coach Dan Hurley was told of coaches from other leagues being worried about the Big East’s advantage, he grinned and said they should be more worried that his league has won four of the last eight national titles — and that his Huskies have gone back-to-back. A good reminder that the schools with the biggest budgets do not always win in basketball.

“I think there’s anxiety about everything, because the one thing we know is three months, six months, nine months from now, nothing is going to be like it is now,” Hurley said. “But as college coaches, our job is to figure it out. That’s what you do during the course of a game: when things go weird, figure it out.”
 
“That’s a problem,” Oats said, his eyes widening at the thought. “As long as it’s equitable across all the high-major schools, you’re fine. But if one’s got $22 million and one’s got $5 million, that’s a problem. We’re not going to be able to compete. They haven’t thought everything through.”

Ohhh, poor baby, Bama's worried that their BBall program might get left behind...no #*&^%$( way he'll get sympathy considering what the $EC and BIG have done to football programs like ours. In the long run they'll be fine, but it's ludicrous to read them complain. We've been dealing with that disparity in football for ages, let them wallow in despair for a change.
 
Huh...so the Big East says it's all about basketball and we can put all of our eggs in that one basket...

That could put the Huskies in a position of acknowledging that football will never be at the higher levels of the sport.

Why do I say that ? Because if the Big East is pouring all assets into their "singular sport", UConn will have to play their competion's game and match them in basketball NIL-schollies. Leaving less for football without major new infusions of $$. And less for football will weaken the program.

And UConn's baseball is beyond just Big East in importance...to play at a national level (win supers and go to the CWS), the Huskies must be able to compete with the schools implementing full scholarship levels and NIL...more infusions of $$ needed.

What is great for the Big East could end up cementing UConn as not just a basketball first school but a fellow Big East "basketball only" school.

A split...football and basketball schools ?
 
jostar1 said:
Arguably the hottest topic at conference meetings and inside college athletic departments this month is how schools will handle the most groundbreaking element of a settlement in the House v. NCAA antitrust lawsuit: a revenue-sharing agreement that will allow schools to distribute roughly $20-23 million annually to their athletes beginning in 2025. The assumption is that football players will get the biggest piece of the pie within almost every athletic department, but men’s basketball is expected to be second in line, and its coaches are already wondering what their allotment looks like.

Since seemingly every school will decide for itself, one league at the high-major level could have a distinct advantage: the Big East, a conference that does not sponsor football.

“I don’t think any of us have the answer to it yet, but I think we do feel good about our position,” Xavier coach Sean Miller told The Athletic last week at Nike’s Peach Jam, the biggest basketball recruiting event of the year. This topic came up often there and at Big East coaches meetings. “In so many ways, it works to our advantage. The good thing about being in the Big East is it’s about one sport. I shouldn’t say one sport, but I think the importance of college basketball is at the top and after what just happened in the landscape of college sports, it puts us in a very unique position.”

What if, while the SEC and Big Ten continue their football-first arms race, those basketball-centric Big East schools decided to give the bulk of the allowed revenue share to their primary sport?

“That’s a problem,” Oats said, his eyes widening at the thought. “As long as it’s equitable across all the high-major schools, you’re fine. But if one’s got $22 million and one’s got $5 million, that’s a problem. We’re not going to be able to compete. They haven’t thought everything through.”

Florida coach Todd Golden said SEC basketball coaches have been buzzing about this nightmare scenario since last year.

“You have all these great basketball schools that have no football they have to take care of,” Golden said, “so yeah, definitely, we are worried about that.”

According to documents filed Friday detailing the settlement agreement, schools will be able to voluntarily distribute up to 22 percent of the average power-conference school’s annual revenue each season from media rights, ticket sales and sponsorships. It’s unlikely any school would devote all of that to just one sport, and it’s not a given that every school will have the maximum to work with — each athletic department has to find the money. Coaches have a lot of questions about how exactly that’s going to work.

And although Big East coaches like that they do not have to split their in-house NIL pool with football, their media deals and athletic department revenues dwarf those in the Big Ten or SEC.

When UConn coach Dan Hurley was told of coaches from other leagues being worried about the Big East’s advantage, he grinned and said they should be more worried that his league has won four of the last eight national titles — and that his Huskies have gone back-to-back. A good reminder that the schools with the biggest budgets do not always win in basketball.

“I think there’s anxiety about everything, because the one thing we know is three months, six months, nine months from now, nothing is going to be like it is now,” Hurley said. “But as college coaches, our job is to figure it out. That’s what you do during the course of a game: when things go weird, figure it out.”
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I really do think of all the things to have happened, the revenue sharing will be the final nail in the coffin for UConn football. We're probably going to hold on for another couple years looking for the invite but if it's not here by say, 2027, I'm not sure how we keep trying to compete.
 
KryHavok said:
“That’s a problem,” Oats said, his eyes widening at the thought. “As long as it’s equitable across all the high-major schools, you’re fine. But if one’s got $22 million and one’s got $5 million, that’s a problem. We’re not going to be able to compete. They haven’t thought everything through.”

Ohhh, poor baby, Bama's worried that their BBall program might get left behind...no #*&^%$( way he'll get sympathy considering what the $EC and BIG have done to football programs like ours. In the long run they'll be fine, but it's ludicrous to read them complain. We've been dealing with that disparity in football for ages, let them wallow in despair for a change.
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The power conferences will just go back to wrangling the boosters for Xtra cash to cheat or up the NIL to make up any difference
 
JMick said:
I really do think of all the things to have happened, the revenue sharing will be the final nail in the coffin for UConn football. We're probably going to hold on for another couple years looking for the invite but if it's not here by say, 2027, I'm not sure how we keep trying to compete.
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cellocgg said:
So now the big money schools are crying because they wouldn't be able to compete with the new rules?

Oh, the irony
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I think it would be more accurate to say they're crying because the new rules may lessen their competitive advantages.
 
I think more scholarships may make less difference in basketball than does the availability of NIL.

Even if a basketball program goes to 15 scholarships to give out instead of 13, it may, effectively, make little difference.

You don't usually play that many players and top players won't want to go to places to ride the pine.

I could see top players go where the $$ offers are best....
 
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