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Ok so Fairfield Prep doesn't count for the SCC? then St Joseph's doesn't count for FCIAC until 1995? I don't think you want to play that game. I get (now) that you are that guy who can't be wrong, even when you are blatantly wrong -- so I guess I will have to leave it at that.

FYI: It wasn't my "record book", it was the Connecticut Sports Writer's Alliance -- established in 1939. They have a bit more credibility than you.
Yeah right, blatantly wrong. JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, the FCIAC trumps the SCC. Give credit where credit is due or just jump on the "I love the SCC bandwagon" like you did. Talk about credibility while claiming not to have a "horse in this race".

http://www.casciac.org/pdfs/champions_football.pdf
 
I am more on the, "I can't stand obnoxious posters" bandwagon. Shelton joined in 1994 when the league was FORMED and ALL of their titles appear to be post 1994...you ready to part with St Joe's 8 pre FCIAC titles yet???
 
Ok so Fairfield Prep doesn't count for the SCC? then St Joseph's doesn't count for FCIAC until 1995? I don't think you want to play that game. I get (now) that you are that guy who can't be wrong, even when you are blatantly wrong -- so I guess I will have to leave it at that.

FYI: It wasn't my "record book", it was the Connecticut Sports Writer's Alliance -- established in 1939. They have a bit more credibility than you.
Oh yeah, well I do question the credibility of any writer (maybe you?) who counted 44 victories attributed to the SCC going all the way back to 1976 when we all know the SCC wasn't even formed until 1994. Like I said there has been a lot of horse dung and plain unfairness when writers from upstate over the years have wrote about upstate and middle state schools vs those around Bridgeport and points southwest. All I say is give credit where credit is due and let the facts taken from the results on the gridiron, speak for themselves.
 
The league was formed in 1994, when 20 schools came together from four different leagues:

District League
Wilbur Cross, Hillhouse, Hamden, West Haven
Housatonic League
Amity, Branford, Cheshire, Derby, East Haven, Lyman Hall, North Haven, Sheehan, Shelton
Shoreline Conference
Guilford, Hand
All-Connecticut Conference
Fairfield Prep, Notre Dame-WH, Xavier, Mercy, Sacred Heart Academy

98-career added
04-law/foran added
09-derby left

ships
94- Cheshire L
95- Cheshire L Shelton LL
96- Cheshire LL
97- Cheshire LL Hand L
98-
99-
00- Shelton LL
01- Ndwh L
02- West haven LL Hillhouse SS
03- Shelton L Hand M
04- Hand M
05- Xavier LL Branford MM Hand M
06- Hillhouse M
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08-
09- Cheshire LL Ndwh L
10- Xavier LL Hillhouse M
 
Oh yeah, well I do question the credibility of any writer (maybe you?) who counted 44 victories attributed to the SCC going all the way back to 1976 when we all know the SCC wasn't even formed until 1994. Like I said there has been a lot of horse dung and plain unfairness when writers from upstate over the years have wrote about upstate and middle state schools vs those around Bridgeport and points southwest. All I say is give credit where credit is due and let the facts taken from the results on the gridiron, speak for themselves.

The teams that are in the SCC currently are historically slightly more successful than the schools who are currently in the FCIAC in State Title games. That's what the numbers say. There is no other way to compare a league formed in the early 60's to a league formed in the 90's. You are the one who needs to give credit to the SCC, nobody said that the FCIAC wasn't a great league.
 
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if you go back the L was dominated by future scc teams in the 80s early 90s with several other future scc teams winning ships in other classes like prep in 88(LL) over greenwich and hillhouse 85(m-1) over masuk.
 
It looks like it's 21 State Titles for teams in the SCC since 1994, how many wins for FC schools over that time period?
 
The teams that are in the SCC currently are historically slightly more successful than the schools who are currently in the FCIAC in State Title games. That's what the numbers say. There is no other way to compare a league formed in the early 60's to a league formed in the 90's. You are the one who needs to give credit to the SCC, nobody said that the FCIAC wasn't a great league.
I guess we can agree on that, but why do you say "slightly more successful" for the SCC vs the FCIAC. One can argue those numbers, I mean 70 appearances and 44 wins vs 72 appearances and 42 wins. I'd call that a draw for the finals, but in state playoff appearances and wins in the quarters and semi's I don't know. One thing I know is the best teams will win on Saturday.
 
Can we get back to the original point here, that Xavier would lose 2 games in the FCIAC and not which conference has been better since the 70s or whatever?
I've been to several Xavier games and they run an elite offense and have handled every team they have faced thus far this year. Their BACK UP QB has offers from BCU and Syracuse. They have at least 4 senior players with scholarship offers. I'll stop now because I am quite confident that X will prove the point for me in the coming weeks.
 
xavier is the best team in the state imo

casey is the best qb right now, next year boeing/boyle/staff and a few others will compete for that title. 13 is a deep class for this state it looks like

newsome is the best rb and i don't see any1 topping him the next couple years
 
Can we get back to the original point here, that Xavier would lose 2 games in the FCIAC and not which conference has been better since the 70s or whatever?
I've been to several Xavier games and they run an elite offense and have handled every team they have faced thus far this year. Their BACK UP QB has offers from BCU and Syracuse. They have at least 4 senior players with scholarship offers. I'll stop now because I am quite confident that X will prove the point for me in the coming weeks.
Xavier's defense is the reason they are so good this year. If they play Staples, I'd be more worried about their D. Xavier will beat Norwalk but I've heard great things about Norwalks defensive front. Will Milano healthy, New Canaan is the best team in the FCIAC this year, though I would call this a down year for the FCIAC top to bottom, St Joes, Trumbull, Darien and even Staples lost alot of great players to graduation. Would of loved to have seen New Canaan play Xavier though.

http://www.thedailynewcanaan.com/sports/new-canaan-qb-breaks-longtime-school-record
 
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Xavier may very well play both Norwalk and Staples. The result on the field will settle this. And I agree with AJC, the original argument was whether Xavier would already be carrying a couple of losses by being in the FCIAC. So far I've seen nothing offered up that gives any credence to that notion. We'll see if either Norwalk or Staples can back up that claim.
 
Don't want to speak too prematurely, but good to see Norwalk show up against Xavier in the first half. Expect more of the same.
 
Don't want to speak too prematurely, but good to see Norwalk show up against Xavier in the first half. Expect more of the same.

55-14 Xavier with under 4 left.

Fail.
 
Xavier may very well play both Norwalk and Staples. The result on the field will settle this. And I agree with AJC, the original argument was whether Xavier would already be carrying a couple of losses by being in the FCIAC. So far I've seen nothing offered up that gives any credence to that notion. We'll see if either Norwalk or Staples can back up that claim.

Norwalk sure didn't.
 
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Do we still think Xavier isn't good enough to go undefeated in the FCIAC?
I think after that shellacking today those concerns have to be put to rest. Anyone that has seen them perform in person understands that they have some of the best coaching and talent in the state. They run a very advanced style offense (they have the big posters with 4 symbols much like Oregon to call plays in without a huddle). We'll see what happens in the final, but my opinion remains the same as it has been for this entire season, Xavier is a beast.
 
Newsome with a huge day. 20 carries 321 yards and 6 tds.
saw that statline and thought there must have been a misprint. Also heard he only took one carry in the second half? WOW
 
saw that statline and thought there must have been a misprint. Also heard he only took one carry in the second half? WOW

He scored on his first carry of the game and capped his afternoon on his first carry of the second half. Ansonia went up 41-7 merely seconds into the 3rd quarter and Newsome was done for the day. Ansonia freshmen JaQuan McKnight took over carrying 16 times for 71 yards.
 
I think the dominant conference was established today after that Hand-Masuk game. Is there still any doubt that the SCC is once again the states best league? Really impressive game from Hand, thanks Kris1 for the live feed
 
I think the dominant conference was established today after that Hand-Masuk game. Is there still any doubt that the SCC is once again the states best league? Really impressive game from Hand, thanks Kris1 for the live feed
I will say the SCC looks really strong this year while the FCIAC is in a rebuilding year. Xavier really looks unbeatable this year but how soon people forget. Remember that New Canaan beat Hand easily last year and beat them in 2007 as well and Staples beat Xavier 2 years ago, while St Joes destroyed Ansonia last year and also won a state title the year before that, I forget who against though. These things go in cycles and this might be the SCC's year.
 
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I will say the SCC looks really strong this year while the FCIAC is in a rebuilding year. Xavier really looks unbeatable this year but how soon people forget. Remember that New Canaan beat Hand easily last year and beat them in 2007 as well and Staples beat Xavier 2 years ago, while St Joes destroyed Ansonia last year and also won a state title the year before that, I forget who against though. These things go in cycles and this might be the SCC's year.

These things are cyclical and I said that early on in this argument. Next Saturday Xavier-Staples and New Canaan-Hand. We'll see how this all plays out. I didn't get to catch the Xavier-Norwalk game but Hand absolutely physically dominated Masuk. There some real hard hits coming from the Tigers on the Masuk WR's and I think that played a big part in the 2nd half. Hand also owned the battle in the trenches. I though Cochran played pretty well - when he sticks to the bread and butter (short and medium range throws) it worked real well. Everytime they went deep though his accuracy seemed to be way off. The Hand center needs to do a better job of snapping in the gun. He was rolling the ball on the carpet all night. I joked last night the Hand QB Foye should get the MVP of the game based on how many times he scooped up terrible snaps.
 
In my opinion the SCC and FCIAC are comparable leagues. Both have their fair share of good and bad teams. I tip my hat to the SCC because of their D-1 and D-2 formats. The SCC D-1 teams IMO have a tough schedule, and if the FCIAC broke down their league in the same way their schedules would be just as tough. I won't say the SCC is better than the FCIAC or vice versa. But I stand my ground in that if Xavier, this year, were in the FCIAC, they'd still have an unblemished record. Saturday will have the answers.
 
I have to give it up to Hand's RB Kevin Frey as well. That guy ran HARD. I haven't looked to see yet what his numbers were last night but he does not go down easy.
 
In my opinion the SCC and FCIAC are comparable leagues. Both have their fair share of good and bad teams. I tip my hat to the SCC because of their D-1 and D-2 formats. The SCC D-1 teams IMO have a tough schedule, and if the FCIAC broke down their league in the same way their schedules would be just as tough. I won't say the SCC is better than the FCIAC or vice versa. But I stand my ground in that if Xavier, this year, were in the FCIAC, they'd still have an unblemished record. Saturday will have the answers.

OK I'll eat some crow and admit that if Xavier played in the FCIAC THIS year they might go undefeated especially with the FCIAC's present format, but that's hard to predict. I was not surprised at Hand beating Masuk the way they did, I thought Masuk's weak schedule was suspect all year. A lot of those 50 point games they had during the season were against some pretty weak teams in a weaker conf. I actually think they were better last year. Was pleased that a 5 seed (New Canaan) from the FCIAC beat a 1 seed (Windsor) last night.
 
FCIAC AND SCC should gain WAYY more points in inner conference games then any other league..especially scc d-1. SCC/FCIAC are much better then all the other leagues just about every year well every year. Im from Shelton and they lost to Xavier and ND west haven two top 10 scc teams.. Sheltons team was good but not great, just using them as an example..Shelton was 8-2 and teams like Hall and Conrad with identical records should NOT be ahead of SCC/FCIAC teams I like that the ciac made the playoff system better but know they need to fix the points rewarded to certain conferences some teams that are 10-0 or 9-1 would be 500 in the two power conferences.
 
FCIAC AND SCC should gain WAYY more points in inner conference games then any other league..especially scc d-1. SCC/FCIAC are much better then all the other leagues just about every year well every year. Im from Shelton and they lost to Xavier and ND west haven two top 10 scc teams.. Sheltons team was good but not great, just using them as an example..Shelton was 8-2 and teams like Hall and Conrad with identical records should NOT be ahead of SCC/FCIAC teams I like that the ciac made the playoff system better but know they need to fix the points rewarded to certain conferences some teams that are 10-0 or 9-1 would be 500 in the two power conferences.

Disagree. That's a BCS mentality. The point system is fine the way it is. There are 8 seeds per division now x 4 divisions = 32 seeds overall. When I played there were 12 seeds overall (2x6) and you had to pretty much go undefeated or 1 loss at most if you wanted a shot at the playoffs. Shelton had plenty of chances to get in during the regular season. Win the games.
 
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