No Syracuse schadenfreude?

[The Yakk]

...full disclosure and all. With the advancement of you know mass transportation and such I'm not into all that nonsense about how close you are geographically. So what?

If you are right about that, then what is YOUR explanation for why none of the other ACC schools give a damn about Syracuse? Or why your recruiting has failed so spectacularly?

I bet your lineup would not be clogged with so many Boeheims if you were anything more than a sad outlier in your own conference.

 

[Kolumbo]

1. UCONN most certainly would have accepted an invite from the ACC. What we fans wouldn't do is feel the need to obsess about other programs who were not invited or the Big East
2. UCONN vs SU is a far better product than SU vs BCU. UCONN vs SU would benefit both programs no matter the conference
3. The ACC is always UNC, Duke, and 1 or 2 wild cards. Every year. SU and Pitt don't change that. SU and UCONN might.
4. The ACC is about North Carolina, over 600 miles away from Canada. UCONN would have added the Southern New England & NYC flavor.

 

[huskies20]

Another amazing part is how their beat writers never say ANYTHING bad about Boeheim. They all say he deserves to go when he goes. No one challenges him, no one pressures him, no one asks hard-hitting questions and keeps him accountable.

Clearly nepotism has hurt their program and no one dares to bring it up except the fans syracusefan.com. Calhoun had his infamous moments because the press asked him some hard-hitting questions. Jeff Jacobs can be an ass, but at least he has opinions that goes against those of the messaging from inside the program. Honestly it's embarrassing but I love seeing it.

 

[Waquoit]

Cuse pulled up the ladder on UConn. They can't lose enough to suit me. But in the spirit of unity, I have no qualms with Orange fans jumping on our bandwagon. It's a natural fit since we have so many former Cuse recruits in the program it's easy for them to see what coulda been.

 

[CL82]

You are predicting it's a demise and cool...knock yourself out. BC said the same thing about UCONN. I thought it was as ridiculous then as it is now. As far as I can tell, using REALITY and history...demise is not a permanent condition. It's seasonal. NONE of these schools are perennial powerhouses in ANY SPORT...except UCONN WBB. It doesn't bother me because it's entertainment and something fun...win or lose. I boast when they win and concede when they suck. lol I don't go around telling other schools they're evil heathens, that we're the next UCLA dynasty and that they're greedy and all about taking the money. BUT, admittedly, if you could ...you would take the money.

LOL, I get it it probably feels much more comfortable for you to avoid talking about the fact that Syracuse basketball has reached the point that its fans fans are actively crying for Beoheims removal and instead installing the dirtiest coach in basketball, Rick Pitino. So instead you drift to a topic that most sports fans don’t pay attention to athletic department finances.

I don’t know about you but I don’t sit down at the start of the season and go over financial statements, or did season look who’s made the earnings top 20. I prefer to follow athletics. So preseason I look at how my team is going to do in the projections. And during the year I’ve well, actually watch the games and enjoy it when my team makes the top 25. But I get it, I guess, it’s something that you can desperately cling to. No one else cares, but if it gives you comfort in these dark times for Syracuse basketball, God bless.

Still, though, going on another team’s basketball board to brag about AD revenue? It just seems a little sad doesn’t it?

 

[LwrcasefaN]

If you are right about that, then what is YOUR explanation for why none of the other ACC schools give a damn about Syracuse? Or why your recruiting has failed so spectacularly?

I bet your lineup would not be clogged with so many Boeheims if you were anything more than a sad outlier in your own conference.

I hadn't heard that to be quite honest and if I did I probably would have laughed it off because who cares if other ACC schools (who fans?) don't care about SU. Guess what? It's not like they can cancel. lol Well, I guess they could, but that would be another W!

I don't know if I would say SU recruiting is bad as opposed to what happens recently after they get there. I think I've stated several times...it wouldn't hurt my feelings if Boeheim departed. 45 years is enough. It's probably never been done before at a single school for a reason. People get complacent and abandon recruiting trips and start grabbing new players from the backseat of their SUV. And time aside, when everything is someone else's fault...there's no motivation to look for a solution.

JB has a vocal cult following so...I'll just wait for nature to take over.

 

[The Yakk]

I hadn't heard that to be quite honest and if I did I probably would have laughed it off because who cares if other ACC schools (who fans?) don't care about SU. Guess what? It's not like they can cancel. lol Well, I guess they could, but that would be another W!

I don't know if I would say SU recruiting is bad as opposed to what happens recently after they get there. I think I've stated several times...it wouldn't hurt my feelings if Boeheim departed. 45 years is enough. It's probably never been done before at a single school for a reason. People get complacent and abandon recruiting trips and start grabbing new players from the backseat of their SUV. And time aside, when everything is someone else's fault...there's no motivation to look for a solution.

JB has a vocal cult following so...I'll just wait for nature to take over.

Sure, you bet.

Now here is some "full disclosure" for you:

When Syracuse was poached ten years ago, it was entirely for the purpose of crippling the Big East. It was NOT in any way because Syracuse was some great prize that the ACC could not live without. If that reality has not yet set in for you, it will soon.

UConn or Rutgers, which would have been ACTUAL prizes for the ACC, were not approached then because the ACC did not believe we would leave the Big East. They went for the low-hanging fruits instead.

When Syracuse the college eventually withers and dies--which will happen in our lifetimes--you will see exactly how much the ACC cares about you. Your demise will be met with a hearty "meh" while they happily chop up your share of the TV money.

Enjoy it while it lasts, I guess.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

LOL, I get it it probably feels much more comfortable for you to avoid talking about the fact that Syracuse basketball has reached the point that its fans fans are actively crying for Beoheims removal and instead installing the dirtiest coach in basketball, Rick Pitino. So instead you drift to a topic that most sports fans don’t pay attention to athletic department finances.

I don’t know about you but I don’t sit down at the start of the season and go over financial statements, or did season look who’s made the earnings top 20. I prefer to follow athletics. So preseason I look at how my team is going to do in the projections. And during the year I’ve well, actually watch the games and enjoy it when my team makes the top 25. But I get it, I guess, it’s something that you can desperately cling to. No one else cares, but if it gives you comfort in these dark times for Syracuse basketball, God bless.

Still, though, going on another team’s basketball board to brag about AD revenue? It just seems a little sad doesn’t it?

You can characterize what I said to suit whatever makes you happy. I didn't brag about revenue. I addressed why not just SU, but other teams left the BE. Yea...that's such a leap to say after accusing teams of selling their souls ...just for money. I suspect if they could just casually write off millions to taxpayers....they may have stayed. I didn't drift anywhere. You failed to follow..conveniently. I definitely didn't start a topic on SU basketball on "your" site...who isn't in your conference, who you are glad departed, and who you supposedly don't care about because they're doomed. lol. Yea...that is weirdly funny. The problem with fans like yourself...is thinking all fans are shallow and uninterested in aspects of athletics just because...you aren't...or because you don't care to know.

So...when your team falls out of the top 25 what's your plan? Self-harm? Abandonment? Wait until they're good again? Stash all your UCONN apparel in gramma's trunk? Change back to the AAC so you can WIN? LMAO

 

[superjohn]

You can characterize what I said to suit whatever makes you happy. I didn't brag about revenue. I addressed why not just SU, but other teams left the BE. Yea...that's such a leap to say after accusing teams of selling their souls ...just for money. I suspect if they could just casually write off millions to taxpayers....they may have stayed. I didn't drift anywhere. You failed to follow..conveniently. I definitely didn't start a topic on SU basketball on "your" site...who isn't in your conference, who you are glad departed, and who you supposedly don't care about because they're doomed. lol. Yea...that is weirdly funny. The problem with fans like yourself...is thinking all fans are shallow and uninterested in aspects of athletics just because...you aren't...or because you don't care to know.

So...when your team falls out of the top 25 what's your plan? Self-harm? Abandonment? Wait until they're good again? Stash all your UCONN apparel in gramma's trunk? Change back to the AAC so you can WIN? LMAO

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

You lost all credibility when you said there are crazy BC fans. Really? Who are they? Can you count then on one hand?

There is only one crazy BC fan, but one out of one fan means 100% of BC fans are crazy.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Sure, you bet.

Now here is some "full disclosure" for you:

When Syracuse was poached ten years ago, it was entirely for the purpose of crippling the Big East. It was NOT in any way because Syracuse was some great prize that the ACC could not live without. If that reality has not yet set in for you, it will soon.

UConn or Rutgers, which would have been ACTUAL prizes for the ACC, were not approached then because the ACC did not believe we would leave the Big East. They went for the low-hanging fruits instead.

When Syracuse the college eventually withers and dies--which will happen in our lifetimes--you will see exactly how much the ACC cares about you. Your demise will be met with a hearty "meh" while they happily chop up your share of the TV money.

Enjoy it while it lasts, I guess.

Let's see...ten years ago...so 2011. No, you probably weren't asked because...wait for it...the whole 2003 lawsuit against BC ..who by 2011 was already in the ACC, and any sports fans knows...they blocked you. You could have left with BC in 2003/06. You didn't. And I don't want to rehash the whole lawsuit thing because that's another topic, but in response to your post...the year matters. It's also worth noting they didn't block Pitt even though they were also part of the lawsuit against BC and the ACC.

So yea...they probably did choose Syracuse as the lesser of the remaining evils. I don't see the relevance. What is relevant is none of these moves...in or out of a conference had squat to do with how rabid the school's fans were. And please, point out where I ever said Syracuse was some great prize. You must be confusing me with some other fan. lol And Syracuse is a University...not a college.

 

[CL82]

You can characterize what I said to suit whatever makes you happy. I didn't brag about revenue. I addressed why not just SU, but other teams left the BE. Yea...that's such a leap to say after accusing teams of selling their souls ...just for money. I suspect if they could just casually write off millions to taxpayers....they may have stayed. I didn't drift anywhere. You failed to follow..conveniently. I definitely didn't start a topic on SU basketball on "your" site...who isn't in your conference, who you are glad departed, and who you supposedly don't care about because they're doomed. lol. Yea...that is weirdly funny. The problem with fans like yourself...is thinking all fans are shallow and uninterested in aspects of athletics just because...you aren't...or because you don't care to know.

So...when your team falls out of the top 25 what's your plan? Self-harm? Abandonment? Wait until they're good again? Stash all your UCONN apparel in gramma's trunk? Change back to the AAC so you can WIN? LMAO

Sure you did, that’s been your comments in this whole thread. “Yes Syracuse is terrible at basketball. Yes Syracuse, prospects don’t look very good. But, by golly, our AD financials are better than the University of Connecticut’s.“ Who goes on another teams basketball board and does that? Seriously, it’s like the funniest thing I’ve ever heard in my life, or maybe the saddest, I haven’t decided yet.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Sure you did, that’s been your comments in this whole thread. “Yes Syracuse is terrible at basketball. Yes Syracuse, prospects don’t look very good. But, by golly, our AD financials are better than the University of Connecticut’s.“ Who goes on another teams basketball board and does that? Seriously, it’s like the funniest thing I’ve ever heard in my life, or maybe the saddest, I haven’t decided yet.

You know how to copy and paste, right? Like I said...facts matter. Saying one school left to secure a financial future and that another school is 40 million, in the hole in just athletics are FACTS.But, you're nit worried about their future. What? lol Not bragging. It's a fact. You think a school that's been around since the 1870s is going to just poof, but they make a move to ensure that doesn't happen and that's why (one of many rotating excuses) the basketball team is bad. Now..that is sad logic. And Syracuse isn't terrible at Basketball. They are terrible right now. lol I'm okay with that. You aren't? lmao

 

[The Yakk]

Let's see...ten years ago...so 2011. No, you probably weren't asked because...wait for it...the whole 2003 lawsuit against BC ..who by 2011 was already in the ACC, and any sports fans knows...they blocked you. You could have left with BC in 2003/06. You didn't. And I don't want to rehash the whole lawsuit thing because that's another topic, but in response to your post...the year matters. It's also worth noting they didn't block Pitt even though they were also part of the lawsuit against BC and the ACC.

So yea...they probably did choose Syracuse as the lesser of the remaining evils. I don't see the relevance. What is relevant is none of these moves...in or out of a conference had squat to do with how rabid the school's fans were. And please, point out where I ever said Syracuse was some great prize. You must be confusing me with some other fan. lol And Syracuse is a University...not a college.

Syracuse is a clown college, and its days are numbered. Nobody wants to spend $80,000 a year to send their kids to a clown college.

The reason you "don't see the relevance" is because I am not actually engaging in debate with your trollish and incoherent comments, which are all over the place logically. Waste of everyone's time and keystrokes, really. Your comments should be exhibit A in any evaluation of Syracuse's academic standards, assuming that you actually graduated from there which I seriously doubt.

I am just giving you some real talk about your clown college. But it seems like you are not ready to face certain realities.

 

[RichCTBB]

You know how to copy and paste, right? Like I said...facts matter. Saying one school left to secure a financial future and that another school is 40 million, in the hole in just athletics are FACTS.But, you're nit worried about their future. What? lol Not bragging. It's a fact. You think a school that's been around since the 1870s is going to just poof, but they make a move to ensure that doesn't happen and that's why (one of many rotating excuses) the basketball team is bad. Now..that is sad logic. And Syracuse isn't terrible at Basketball. They are terrible right now. lol I'm okay with that. You aren't? lmao

You must be fun at parties

 

[ucp990411]

There is only one crazy BC fan, but one out of one fan means 100% of BC fans are crazy.

But he said fans meaning more than one which I find hard to believe

 

[LwrcasefaN]

You must be fun at parties

Is that an invite? lol

 

[The Yakk]

Is that an invite? lol

You have an open invitation to my poker game. I know a hopeless mark when I see one.

 

[Pudge]

The interesting thing about Syracuse being down ... and swirling round the bowl ... is that it is the ENTIRE city and Central NY region. A pall over an entire area code. As an upstate NY kid, it is city with great chamber of commerce stickyness; but, frankly, a laggard based on pure commercial activity. You don't say that about Rochester, Buffalo or Capital Region. That school/that Program is important for the esprit d' corp of the region. The business community and the urban/suburban life. And while you might hint that it is "Upstate NY" team or "NYC" team; it's not. It's hold on Albany or Buffalo is far more potent when it is a top 10 than not. Like it was raging in 2004 when their Regional was at the Knickerbocker in Albany. But people don't travel to the Carrier if they suck - Greg Robinson era - and they won't if the Boeheim transition takes 5 years.

Can they instantly move from this Jim Boeheim moment to a better construct within 5? Sure if they are lucky. We are a good model or we can cite 5 others. It ain't easy.

I see this as a descent that we all saw coming; and one that they allowed JB concessions that were damaging. Including the sons. And yes Jim Calhoun was given one big concession too.

 

[The Yakk]

The interesting thing about Syracuse being down ... and swirling round the bowl ... is that it is the ENTIRE city and Central NY region. A pall over an entire area code. As an upstate NY kid, it is city with great chamber of commerce stickyness; but, frankly, a laggard based on pure commercial activity. You don't say that about Rochester, Buffalo or Capital Region. That school/that Program is important for the esprit d' corp of the region. The business community and the urban/suburban life. And while you might hint that it is "Upstate NY" team or "NYC" team; it's not. It's hold on Albany or Buffalo is far more potent when it is a top 10 then not. Like it was raging in 2004 when their Regional was at the Knickerbocker in Albany. But people don't travel to the Carrier if they suck - Greg Robinson era - and they won't if the Boeheim transition takes 5 years.

Can they instantly move from this Jim Boeheim moment to a better construct within 5? Sure if they are lucky. We are a good model or we can cite 5 others. It ain't easy.

I see this as a descent that we all saw coming; and one that they allowed JB concessions that were damaging. Including the sons. And yes Jim Calhoun was given one big concession too.

Bethlehem, PA version 2.0. Maybe they can transform the campus into some kind of casino/low-end retail.

 

[CL82]

You know how to copy and paste, right? Like I said...facts matter. Saying one school left to secure a financial future and that another school is 40 million, in the hole in just athletics are FACTS.But, you're nit worried about their future. What? lol Not bragging. It's a fact. You think a school that's been around since the 1870s is going to just poof, but they make a move to ensure that doesn't happen and that's why (one of many rotating excuses) the basketball team is bad. Now..that is sad logic. And Syracuse isn't terrible at Basketball. They are terrible right now. lol I'm okay with that. You aren't? lmao

No, I get it, there’s really nothing to root for for Syracuse right now, so you’re here on a UConn basketball board talking about finances instead of athletics. I understand completely. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really, really odd, but it’s entertaining. I’m curious to see how long you’ll keep digging this hole. It’s a pretty sad look.

“But, but, but… our athletic department makes more than yours does!“

 

[Waquoit]

And The Yakk comes out of nowhere throwing haymakers...

 

[UCSouth]

And The Yakk comes out of nowhere throwing haymakers...

Down goes Lowercase, Down goes Lowercase.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

The interesting thing about Syracuse being down ... and swirling round the bowl ... is that it is the ENTIRE city and Central NY region. A pall over an entire area code. As an upstate NY kid, it is city with great chamber of commerce stickyness; but, frankly, a laggard based on pure commercial activity. You don't say that about Rochester, Buffalo or Capital Region. That school/that Program is important for the esprit d' corp of the region. The business community and the urban/suburban life. And while you might hint that it is "Upstate NY" team or "NYC" team; it's not. It's hold on Albany or Buffalo is far more potent when it is a top 10 than not. Like it was raging in 2004 when their Regional was at the Knickerbocker in Albany. But people don't travel to the Carrier if they suck - Greg Robinson era - and they won't if the Boeheim transition takes 5 years.

Can they instantly move from this Jim Boeheim moment to a better construct within 5? Sure if they are lucky. We are a good model or we can cite 5 others. It ain't easy.

I see this as a descent that we all saw coming; and one that they allowed JB concessions that were damaging. Including the sons. And yes Jim Calhoun was given one big concession too.

Sounds awful, but if an entire region was dependent on SU in order to thrive commercially...that's their stupidity. It's a good thing they get paid whether people show up or not. lol.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

No, I get it, there’s really nothing to root for for Syracuse right now, so you’re here on a UConn basketball board talking about finances instead of athletics. I understand completely. Don’t get me wrong, it’s really, really odd, but it’s entertaining. I’m curious to see how long you’ll keep digging this hole. It’s a pretty sad look.

“But, but, but… our athletic department makes more than yours does!“

You know placing quotations around some words...doesn't make them my words. Do you need help with copy and pasting? Now it's entertaining, but two posts ago...you felt sorry for me. Mood swings? lol

 

[CL82]

You know placing quotations around some words...doesn't make them my words. Do you need help with copy and pasting? Now it's entertaining, but two posts ago...you felt sorry for me. Mood swings? lol

Like Reeses, your compulsion to post here is is two things in one. It’s laughable, because it is just so very weird and yet it’s really sad that someone’s life would be so miserable that they would spend the time to make so many posts on another teams basketball form about their athletic departments profitability. Let’s just say it’s entertainingly pathetic.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I'm late to the schadenfreude party, but it got me thinking: are there other teams that make me feel schadenfreude?

Honestly, maybe the Dallas Cowboys are the only other sports team that comes close to Cuse.

A rarely feel it with pro sports teams: I'll happily cheer for the Mets when hanging out with my Mets friends or attending a game; I'm apathetic to the Jets; I like when the Devils and Islanders are respectable because it makes the rivalry better...Similar with the Red Sox, I don't wish success for them, but I want them to at least be a .500 team to keep the rivalry spicy.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Like Reeses, your compulsion to post here is is two things in one. It’s laughable, because it is just so very weird and yet it’s really sad that someone’s life would be so miserable that they would spend the time to make so many posts on another teams basketball form about their athletic departments profitability. Let’s just say it’s entertainingly pathetic.

oh...so now there's a post and time restriction. lol I thought that when I left the correctional facility I was free to do as I pleased with my time. Thanks for saving me from a parole violation. Bless you.

 

[Pudge]

Sounds awful, but if an entire region was dependent on SU in order to thrive commercially...that's their stupidity. It's a good thing they get paid whether people show up or not. lol.

Let me opine a contra-intuitive theory: it ain't about SU as an institution any more. That University is just an overpriced ticket for mostly urban kids from greater this or that - NYC or Westchester or LI or Jersey or DC. Not the highest achievers; not the best & the brightest. Just a way station that was a fun place to party for 4 to 6 years. Colgate in Hamilton or Cornell in Ithaca actually have better minds and harder, more rigorous academics.

The region is really getting engulphed by ONE Indian tribe - the Senaca Nation. That place had grown immensely and makes money in all different economies. With innovative resort features in development today. More interesting that DisneyWorld I would say. Since the Carrier Dome is functionally obsolescent, maybe you just sell the whole kit & kaboddle to Roy the CEO. He'd replace Jim B without sentimentality. Improve your Lacrosse. Build a huge new modern arena for football and hoop to match Vegas. Give you dollars for a new Hockey East franchise which no other donor would fund. And drag those entitled kids away from the urban wretches you NYC alumni fear.

New York State is doing what they should have done in mid 1970s. Make Buffalo and Stony Brook Flagship State U. And then SU finds out what a Public Institution with bonding capacity can do to take your bacon away.

 

[Orc]

Congratulation on your program's financial success. It seems to really be working out for your gritty and plucky little program. Boeheim(s) forever!!!!!!

Congrats on your Acc banner and many helms thropies lol.

Must suck to know it will be 4>1 for a while.