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Peck would be a disaster. Would much rather take a risk with Lawson or Harper. Not surprised to hear the AD isnt willing to shell out $$. Tennessee isnt going to land a top coach unless they're willing to shell out big bucks.
 
bballnut...are you afraid that you're going to end up getting a less than stellar hire now since it's taking so long and hearing that Fulmer isn't paying top $$?

This happened to us in baseball after going to the CWS. Cohen promised a "known commodity" that had been to Omaha numerous times, blah blah blah. We missed out on Schlossnagle, McDonnell and some other big names. I'm pleasantly surprised with Lemonis right now, but it's early.
 
I do not understand why Peck is under consideration at all. Way more risk than reward to me.

Reality for Tennessee, is if they want a proven HC at a high level, they will have to open up their check books unless they grab a coach from a mid major.
 
It's just really hard to find an elite coach. There aren't a lot of them out there, and there's no guarantee that anyone you hire will work out. Just because Holly is gone doesn't mean the next coach will be any better. A lot of people will not want the expectations of that job either.
 
I bet they're having a hard time hiring a new coach because they dragged Holly across the coals for a .700+ winning percentage. If they're not going to pay top dollar, why should a coach subject themselves to likely unreasonable expectations?
 
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Orangutan said:
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"Whoa, whoa, whoa....that hot mess? No thanks!"​
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
I bet they're having a hard time hiring a new coach because they dragged Holly across the coals for a .700+ winning percentage. If they're not going to pay top dollar, why should a coach subject themselves to likely unreasonable expectations?
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I don't think Fulmer really cares much about Lady Vol basketball. He'll make a change, but big enough money to draw a major coach to Knoxville? Probably not. Solid money though, I'm sure.
Wbbfan1 said:
Carolyn Peck being considered??????

Sources: Eye-opening name a 'strong' candidate for Tennessee
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Perfect.
 
Fulmer is in Tampa meeting coaches and conducting interviews. He’s being thorough and deliberate with this hire. I’ve heard that several applicants are assistant coaches with men’s teams. Fulmer wants to get this right. The last thing he wants is to pick the wrong person and have to go through it all.again in four or five years.
 
Volup1 said:
Fulmer is in Tampa meeting coaches and conducting interviews. He’s being thorough and deliberate with this hire. I’ve heard that several applicants are assistant coaches with men’s teams. Fulmer wants to get this right. The last thing he wants is to pick the wrong person and have to go through it all.again in four or five years.
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That sounds like a step backwards. A men's team assistant coach (by definition a man) over a proven women's head coach. :confused:
 
SECbbfan24 said:
I do not understand why Peck is under consideration at all. Way more risk than reward to me.

Reality for Tennessee, is if they want a proven HC at a high level, they will have to open up their check books unless they grab a coach from a mid major.
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That's the issue. I'm seeing folks on VolNation denigrating the idea of hiring a mid-major coach. But hiring a successful P5 coach is going to cost big $ and they already had to pay to get rid of Holly. They're not going to fork over enough money to give someone like Walz a big raise.

So that leaves you with top assistants, mid-major coaches, or out-of-the-box choices like Lawson (and I feel like Lawson already makes good money for less--or at least less stressful--work).

They are going to screw around with candidates like Carolyn Peck (lol) while places like Penn State and Georgia Tech snap up the best mid-major candidates to move up.

Kellie Harper just seems like such an obvious good fit, but I guess some folks think it would be admitting defeat because it's not a huge name. Their dream that everyone would drop what they were doing and head to Knoxville for the same or less money is being shattered.
 
I almost wish Kellie Harper would tell them no ... that being a VFL isn't enough to give up being appreciated at Missouri State vs never being good enough at Tennessee.

wrt hiring an established winning coach, IIRC the list of WBB coaches who have taken more than one team to the final four consists of:
Vivian Stringer
Gary Blair

Coaches who took a team to the final four or better and didn't get there at another school:
Peck
Goestenkoers
Sonja Hogg
Jim Foster

Who have I missed in either group? A lot of this reflects how the coaches with the most FF appearances have never moved after making it. Stanford was Tara's 3rd HC job. Muffet was at Lehigh before ND. Geno wasn't a HC before UConn. Summitt wasn't even an assistant.
 
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As an avid VolNation hater, here is my list of coaches that have been named by VN that I do want hired (and continue their misery):
1. Nikki FArgas (mostly to help our colleague @SECbbfan24)
2. Gail Gostekhors as she’s been out of the game too long and failed miserably at Texas following a legend.
3. Caroline Peck as she failed mightily at Florida after Purdue, did not help Vanderbilt at all and would expose how out of touch she is.
4. Kelly Jolly Harper for all the good she did THIS YEAR, She’s in her 7th year at Mizzou State so it’s not like she’s a quick trajectory improver. She also failed in collassol fashion at NC State before Wes took over. Also, UT has a nepotism rule that’s would have to be waived for her husband to coach with her.
5. Felicia Leggett Jack that yes, she’s done well with UB but handling the UT expectations is another animal altogether. Georgia Tech might be a better option for her sanity.
6. Kara Lawson- she did coachsome USA 3x3 teams so she does have some experience but she also knows the situation and she has a great gig going. While I think she’s would be good, hopefully she stays a broadcaster
7. Wes Moore has Tennessee state history from Chattanooga and would kill it at UT with all that talent and opportunity to recruit elite players. It’s too logical for Fulmer not to contact him. However, Wes is 61 and has done great at NCState and will get a big pay raise and is building something special there! Stay there Wes, stay there!
In short that’s the list I am aware of sorted worst to best! Don’t let me down Phil!
 
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For me, Wes Moore would be my ideal pick but the only issue is his age. I think he is 61 but not sure how long he wants to coach. He is a great coach and would have a lot more resources at Tennessee than say NC State. I would shamefully be sorta a Tennessee fan if he were the coach. I respect him a lot.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
For me, Wes Moore would be my ideal pick but the only issue is his age. I think he is 61 but not sure how long he wants to coach. He is a great coach and would have a lot more resources at Tennessee than say NC State. I would shamefully be sorta a Tennessee fan if he were the coach. I respect him a lot.
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If that happens, you being a Tenn fan, you’re dead to me and all that goodwill created these past few months wasted! Head bang
Respectfully,
DefenseBB :rolleyes:
 
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DefenseBB said:
If that happens, you being a Tenn fan, you’re dead to me and all that goodwill created these past few months wasted! Head bang
Respectfully,
DefenseBB :rolleyes:
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lol I wouldn't be a Tennessee fan but I do like the guy a lot

Tennessee fans might implode if a male coach is hired though. I don't think it should matter if they hire a great coach. Just my opinion.
 
GDawg said:
bballnut...are you afraid that you're going to end up getting a less than stellar hire now since it's taking so long and hearing that Fulmer isn't paying top $$?

This happened to us in baseball after going to the CWS. Cohen promised a "known commodity" that had been to Omaha numerous times, blah blah blah. We missed out on Schlossnagle, McDonnell and some other big names. I'm pleasantly surprised with Lemonis right now, but it's early.
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We arent going to get a top coach unless we shell out $$. Money talks. Coaches are also smart and realize this is a difficult fan base and position to take on. Anything less than a Final Four in the next 2-3 years is likely going to be a disappointment. Where else (besides maybe UCONN) are there expectations like that? So when you have a person like Walz or Staley or whoever being recruited and the offer is a massive pay cut to take on a more difficult, higher stress position and leave your established program and fan base that you created....no one in their right mind would jump ship. If we want someone good, we need to pay for it. Otherwise we are going to get a mediocre hire, and it looks like we might be going that route.
 


John Brice has worked for Volquest and 247 sports so might still have contacts...
 
I still can’t imagine Kara giving up that nice job she has even with the appeal of restoring her Alma Mater, That being said if I’m a recruit and I see Kara Lawson who is all over the TV that’s appealing and if she hires the correct staff it could work Since she doesn’t have any coaching experience.
 
I'm always skeptical of candidates with no coaching experience (3x3 for a few weeks in the summer doesn't count). You can know the game of basketball inside and out, but running a major D1 program is something else entirely.
 
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osu87 said:
I still can’t imagine Kara giving up that nice job she has even with the appeal of restoring her Alma Mater, That being said if I’m a recruit and I see Kara Lawson who is all over the TV that’s appealing and if she hires the correct staff it could work Since she doesn’t have any coaching experience.
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Not really ESPN broadcasters don’t make the salary of a head coach of a university and she could always return to broadcasting if it doesn’t work out.
 
I loved Lawson as a player and she's great on ESPN but she shouldn't be a candidate for a D1 head coaching job based on her experience. I read and sometimes post at Volnation and the fans keep saying names like "Waltz, Mulkey, Staley, Vic, Rueck, Hammon" I am not sure any of those would leave their current situations for Knoxville so the next layer are mid major coaches.

Lawson is a brilliant woman who could do most any job in the world and be successful but if she wants to get into coaching she should take an assistant job for a few seasons.
 
futuretitles said:
According to Tennessee booster source Kara Lawson is a done deal to Tennessee.
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That would be a very poor hire. Why would you hire someone with zero coaching experience and running a D1 program?

I don't doubt she knows the X's and O's go the game but implementing it to college kids and being able to develop a program is a whole other monster.
 
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