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Drew said:
I really need UConn fans to stop thinking UConn football only anywhere is a serious option. Nobody on Earth thinks it’s realistic except us. It’s a complete and total non-starter.
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And that’s exactly why things are not going to change. Maybe an “all sports” option would be considered when Big East basketball becomes much weaker in a few years.
 
Kolumbo said:
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It is like some of these folks that come here to bash UConn football think everything will stand still like today. They think UConn football will go 2 and 10 every year while programs like UCF and Houston will go 10-2 every year. Last I checked, Arizona, Arizona ST, and Colorado all had horrible football seasons last decade just like UConn. These idiots can't imagine UConn football can go 10-2 at some point in the future too sitting in one of the biggest media markets in the country.

This line of thinking is so stupid I don't even know where to start. This B12 troll is constantly try to put down UConn. If someone is starting a brand new conference today and all the Big 12 schools are available, I am pretty sure Uconn would be selected in the top 4 if the person has a brain.
 
B12 said:
Yes it appears the ACC is going to lose schools, and likely some of those end up in the B12. That's widely known as even FSU and Clemson have been linked to the B12. But you can pretend if you want to.

IF 2 schools leave the ACC it's likely more leave as well. B1G will take some for sure.

The ACC is likely going to lose 6+ teams so yes I can see how Stanford and Cal could end up having to choose between the gutted ACC and PAC. In the end if the ACC does not have FSU, Clemson, UNC, Virginia, Miami, etc then the PAC is probably the better choice for Stanford and Cal.

The B12 contract is about half the B1G/SEC deals. That's a fact. LOL back at you son.

The reality is Memphis could get an ACC invite before UConn due to their FB program having more value. That will be a hard one to swallow for UConn fans Much like when Cinci made the jump. Yes I think the ACC will look at Temple and Memphis if it's down to BC, Cuse, Wake, Pitt, etc.

No, I think there will end up being a P-4 or P-5. Just a matter of the ACC and PAC deciding to be coastal conferences of about 12 +/- teams each or more of a 24 team nationwide conference.

The B12 is not grandfathered in. They are that valuable on TV which has them in #4 currently but will likely move to #3 shortly.

Not condescending at all, it's realistic. You may perceive it that way due to being insecure about UConn which is common here. The B12 has already been valued by TV partners, no lag. We know the B12 schools are worth about 30 on TV. UConn worth about 6 for BB and 500k for FB. We know that.

ESPN told the B12 not to add UConn due to ACC teams being available soon. And FOX never supported it due to having UConn for pennies already. Sucks as I really think UConn was close to getting the votes and I wanted to see it happen.

So UConn has 2 real options.


1. Stay in Big East making 6 million on BB and try to figure out what to do with FB. Indy seems less likely as there are hardly any left due to not being practical for anyone but ND. MAC might be an option. FCS is an option.

2. Try to jump to the ACC when they lose teams and reload. Seems risky for BB but would save FB and get UConn in the "power" conference albeit more of a Big East type situation as the conference would be Cuse, BC, UConn, Pitt, Wake, Memphis, USF, etc type teams for the most part with possibly Louisville, VTech, GaTech, NCST, Miami.

The reason you didn't respond is because you don't' like the answer. Neither of those are ideal for UConn, Neither provide much income for the AD who desperately needs $. The ACC deal would be better for exposure for sure IMO. So you get angry and do the usual insecure fan response. Getting mad at me won't change anything.


The hilarious part about this is if UConn had been added to the B12 you would be talking about how great it was. Insecure fans are so funny.
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This hayseed screwball thinks UConn fans are insecure after winning back to back championships. Get real.
I’ll say it again. What’s wrong with you dude? You come onto a teams message board with these clueless long boring narratives.
You are out of your mind if you think FSU is going pay exit fees and burn bridges to join a conference where their “rival” would be UCF. They've got their sights on SEC and would probably do a half rate deal to get there.
Why don’t you go an FSU message board and see how well that goes over? I’m guessing like a wet fart.

Better yet, why don’t you go to a shrink to find out why you do this stupid stuff. You probably should head up to Pixley cause I doubt you’ll even find one in Hooterville. Ask Haney, he’ll refer you.
 
B12 said:
We know the B12 schools are worth about 30 on TV. UConn worth about 6 for BB and 500k for FB. We know that
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Do we, in fact, "know that"? We know that is the current contract for each conference, but many schools were grandfathered in.
 
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CL82 said:
Do we, in fact, "know that"? We know that is the current contract for each conference, but many schools were grandfathered in.
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We absolutely don't know that. We know that every school in the Big East is going to get about $6mil in media distributions, but the annual media distributions to the conference went up ~$20mil annually after our addition without any other real changes except the 2nd most premier program is now really bad after their HoF coach retired. I'd argue our basketball is worth a lot more than $6mil
 
CL82 said:
Do we, in fact, "know that"? We know that is the current contract for each conference, but many schools were grandfathered in.
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We know the average per school was that when Texas and Oklahoma were there. Now diluted with G5s and mostly desperate PAC cellar dwellers, doubtful.
Don’t be surprised if Ok St, arguably the best remaining B12 football brand, and FSU join the SEC. Definitely cultural fits.
This rube is trying to inflate his conference value to try and hang with the big boys. It ain’t working.
 
CL82 said:
Do we, in fact, "know that"? We know that is the current contract for each conference, but many schools were grandfathered in.
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If all the B12 schools are in the same situation as UConn now, I am pretty sure they would be worth even less than what UConn is being paid right now.

This troll has no clue how media contracts work. Thank God Yormark isn't an idiot who thinks like that.
 
B12 said:
Yes it appears the ACC is going to lose schools, and likely some of those end up in the B12. That's widely known as even FSU and Clemson have been linked to the B12. But you can pretend if you want to.

IF 2 schools leave the ACC it's likely more leave as well. B1G will take some for sure.

The ACC is likely going to lose 6+ teams so yes I can see how Stanford and Cal could end up having to choose between the gutted ACC and PAC. In the end if the ACC does not have FSU, Clemson, UNC, Virginia, Miami, etc then the PAC is probably the better choice for Stanford and Cal.

The B12 contract is about half the B1G/SEC deals. That's a fact. LOL back at you son.

The reality is Memphis could get an ACC invite before UConn due to their FB program having more value. That will be a hard one to swallow for UConn fans Much like when Cinci made the jump. Yes I think the ACC will look at Temple and Memphis if it's down to BC, Cuse, Wake, Pitt, etc.

No, I think there will end up being a P-4 or P-5. Just a matter of the ACC and PAC deciding to be coastal conferences of about 12 +/- teams each or more of a 24 team nationwide conference.

The B12 is not grandfathered in. They are that valuable on TV which has them in #4 currently but will likely move to #3 shortly.

Not condescending at all, it's realistic. You may perceive it that way due to being insecure about UConn which is common here. The B12 has already been valued by TV partners, no lag. We know the B12 schools are worth about 30 on TV. UConn worth about 6 for BB and 500k for FB. We know that.

ESPN told the B12 not to add UConn due to ACC teams being available soon. And FOX never supported it due to having UConn for pennies already. Sucks as I really think UConn was close to getting the votes and I wanted to see it happen.

So UConn has 2 real options.


1. Stay in Big East making 6 million on BB and try to figure out what to do with FB. Indy seems less likely as there are hardly any left due to not being practical for anyone but ND. MAC might be an option. FCS is an option.

2. Try to jump to the ACC when they lose teams and reload. Seems risky for BB but would save FB and get UConn in the "power" conference albeit more of a Big East type situation as the conference would be Cuse, BC, UConn, Pitt, Wake, Memphis, USF, etc type teams for the most part with possibly Louisville, VTech, GaTech, NCST, Miami.

The reason you didn't respond is because you don't' like the answer. Neither of those are ideal for UConn, Neither provide much income for the AD who desperately needs $. The ACC deal would be better for exposure for sure IMO. So you get angry and do the usual insecure fan response. Getting mad at me won't change anything.


The hilarious part about this is if UConn had been added to the B12 you would be talking about how great it was. Insecure fans are so funny.
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What color is the sky in your world?
 
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UNLV just took down Kansas, parody PAC invite being sent soon to them??? :cool:
 
Zissou said:
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This is going over the edge just a little. I like the PAC East. But call it the Eastern Time Zone Conference. You have Army, Buffalo, Coastal Carolina, Connecticut, Delaware, East Carolina, Georgia State, James Madison, Florida International, Navy, South Florida, Temple, UMass. Just start another conference with all sports.
 
ConnMotors said:
This is going over the edge just a little. I like the PAC East. But call it the Eastern Time Zone Conference. You have Army, Buffalo, Coastal Carolina, Connecticut, Delaware, East Carolina, Georgia State, James Madison, Florida International, Navy, South Florida, Temple, UMass. Just start another conference with all sports.
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The PAC East as affiliated FB members to the PAC is a better alignment.

First, it’s above the G5 status of the conference you propose. It would have the status and higher revenue of the PAC.

It is also heavily concentrated in the NE Metro Media corridor- DC - Baltimore - Philly - NY - Boston…. Plus Tampa market and Florida football footprint. Alone the programs have nominal value. Together, concentrated in this market, they have higher group value and even higher as a PAC affiliate competing for a PAC championship.

It allows members that have better fit base conferences to allow those memberships: Army and Navy in the Patriot and UConn and Nova in the Big East.
 
WrenchFan69 said:
They've had no defections because their schools are undesirable
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And UTSA or any recently added AAC school was? Just saying. I know what you're saying but there have been some random schools added to the AAC based solely on market. The MAC may not have markets but they have some name brand. Not sure who wants it though
 
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Jeez, Oregon State and Wash State go from hobnobbing with some fairly high academic schools to partnering with Boise State (USNews #332) and potentially Memphis (USNews #269). I was surprised to see that Loserville (#195) isn't that far off from Oregon State (#142) and Wash State (#178). Tulane (#73) would be a big step up for them, but UConn (#58) would be even better, even if the geographical fit is terrible.
 
KryHavok said:
Jeez, Oregon State and Wash State go from hobnobbing with some fairly high academic schools to partnering with Boise State (USNews #332) and potentially Memphis (USNews #269). I was surprised to see that Loserville (#195) isn't that far off from Oregon State (#142) and Wash State (#178). Tulane (#73) would be a big step up for them, but UConn (#58) would be even better, even if the geographical fit is terrible.
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Why do people care about this so much? They're playing sports against one another.
 


It looks like this happened because negotiations broke down between the MWC and Pac 2. It is in everyone's interest to return to the table and hash this out. The MWC has the right to $100+ million of exit fees, but it will be in trouble without some of its higher profile programs, and it is a certainty that other top programs like UNLV are trying to get into the Pac 2. The Pac 2+4 would rather not spend $100+ million to clean up a bad deal it signed with the MWC 9 months ago. Even if the Pac 2 gets $10MM a year in a new TV deal, it is not enough to justify the cost of the move, and it will not have nearly the hoops revenue and NCAA Tournament that it would with New Mexico and Utah State.

There should be a merger or affiliation arrangement that is a better outcome for everyone than where they are likely to end up.
 
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noeynox said:
Why do people care about this so much? They're playing sports against one another.
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This, to me, shows we are the complete package. We win championships and we're strong in academics. It doesn't get us into the Big10, but it shows the ACC and Big12 we're the real deal (of course in CR, it's meaningless, but it's a minor mental comfort).
 
nelsonmuntz said:


It looks like this happened because negotiations broke down between the MWC and Pac 2. It is in everyone's interest to return to the table and hash this out. The MWC has the right to $100+ million of exit fees, but it will be in trouble without some of its higher profile programs, and it is a certainty that other top programs like UNLV are trying to get into the Pac 2. The Pac 2+4 would rather not spend $100+ million to clean up a bad deal it signed with the MWC 9 months ago. Even if the Pac 2 gets $10MM a year in a new TV deal, it is not enough to justify the cost of the move, and it will not have nearly the hoops revenue and NCAA Tournament that it would with New Mexico and Utah State.

There should be a merger or affiliation arrangement that is a better outcome for everyone than where they are likely to end up.
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The PAC 12 has a commissioner. This is happening.
 
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