Why didn't we push for a football only agreement again?
Why didn't we push for a football only agreement again?
Or they feel like there are other potential opportunities and the Pac 12 wanted to lock them in. Probably a bit of both.The terms of that must have been something awful.
Or they feel like there are other potential opportunities and the Pac 12 wanted to lock them in. Probably a bit of both.
That's what I've been reading. It's sounds like the opposite of when Uconn, Cincy and USF reformed the Big East/American. When it seemed like Aresco did everything not to offend the new additions, While almost forgetting who the 3 schools were that had the $100 mil+ in exit fees.The PAC 12 has struck out so many times. The word is everything is heavily slanted to OSU and WSU. They are nuts.

Because he knew they had 100 million and exit fees and weren't about to forfeit that. He failed to adapt, however, as the exit fees ran out, and those schools had virtually no incentive to stay.That's what I've been reading. It's sounds like the opposite of when Uconn, Cincy and USF reformed the Big East/American. When it seemed like Aresco did everything not to offend the new additions, While almost forgetting who the 3 schools were that had the $100 mil+ in exit fees.![]()
That's what I've been reading. It's sounds like the opposite of when Uconn, Cincy and USF reformed the Big East/American. When it seemed like Aresco did everything not to offend the new additions, While almost forgetting who the 3 schools were that had the $100 mil+ in exit fees.![]()
Because he knew they had 100 million and exit fees and weren't about to forfeit that. He failed to adapt, however, as the exit fees ran out, and those schools had virtually no incentive to stay.
Agree. I'm just thinking about how he gave away our tier 3 rights. Granted, we were the only program that mattered for, because of women's basketball, but I feel like he should've carved out an exemption for us. If I recall correctly, he had a number of statements, dismissing UConn and its importance to the conference. There's a life lesson in that. You should placate your most valuable property, not denigrate it.To be fair to Aresco though, conferences were always about equal revenue. In today's climate maybe the Charlottes and FAUs get a reduced payout. Nobody is going to stay in the AAC if they get a P4 offer, and it looks like they may prefer the AAC to the PAC 12.
Yep at numerous turns that was my recollection regarding Aresco too. So as soon as Uconn ( and Cincy, a P-5 lucky them) had an option they collected their share of exit fees ( UConn, gets $30 MIL , over a 6 year pay out, IIRC) and hit the road.I'm just thinking about how he gave away our tier 3 rights. Granted, we were the only program that mattered for, because of women's basketball, but I feel like he should've carved out an exemption for us. If I recall correctly, he had a number of statements, dismissing UConn and its importance to the conference. There's a life lesson in that. You should placate your most valuable property, not denigrate it.
Charlotte and FAU did get a reduced payout. The legacy AAC teams (Temple, ECU, Memphis, etc) kept their full payout amounts, while the new teams (Charlotte, FAU, UAB, Rice, North Texas, UTSA) took half shares. Essentially to keep their old payout they had to add inventory, squeezing 6 new teams into 3 open spots and making them share the 3 "full shares"To be fair to Aresco though, conferences were always about equal revenue. In today's climate maybe the Charlottes and FAUs get a reduced payout. Nobody is going to stay in the AAC if they get a P4 offer, and it looks like they may prefer the AAC to the PAC 12.
Wolken back with his Memphis to the PAC/BE stuff again, he said back in SEPT that Memphis and the BE had talks.
We have a Pope alum in the conference. He can make Memphis a Catholic school with a quick decree.Could work if they change to St Memphis.
Wolken back with his Memphis to the PAC/BE stuff again, he said back in SEPT that Memphis and the BE had talks.
While I agree wasn’t there a rumor that the CBB season may expand by 2-4 regular season games in the near future? If so, you can keep a double round robin with 12. That’s a big IF though. We also just saw the ACC reduce conference games from 20 to 18 but I think that’s more because of travel and their bottom tier teams are awful/drag down strength of schedule.I'd rather keep the double round robin instead of adding Memphis unless the additional money was substantial.
The PAC 12 needs another full member so I doubt it's bringing in Memphis football only. The Big East is a basketball private conference and UConn is parked there until we join a football conference. We're parked there because we are special, we were a founding member, we are the 6th borough, and we win. Bringing in Memphis for basketball only seems desperate and I don't think throwing Memphis a lifeline so it can play football in the PAC makes much sense while UConn is still stuck as an independent.I really don't understand the Memphis hate. They would immediately become the 3rd biggest brand in in the Big East if they joined, after us and Nova. They also have a pretty large fanbase. Sign me up to play against them over DePaul, Seton Hall and Butler.
This is an interesting point. Does UConn derail any potential Memphis addition unless UConn is offered PAC12 football-only? There were reports that UConn turned down the PAC12 but I believe it was under the terms of a full-member addition. I don’t believe FB-only was offered.I don't think throwing Memphis a lifeline so it can play football in the PAC makes much sense while UConn is still stuck as an independent.
There are 9 catholic schools.This is an interesting point. Does UConn derail any potential Memphis addition unless UConn is offered PAC12 football-only? There were reports that UConn turned down the PAC12 but I believe it was under the terms of a full-member addition. I don’t believe FB-only was offered.
But it’s all kind of irrelevant because I don’t think the Catholic 7 want anything to do with Memphis. Like you said, UConn is a special exception.
You’re right I’m just used to the term Catholic 7 from a decade agoThere are 9 catholic schools.
There are 9 catholic schools.
This was poorly worded in the article. They are unlikely to join in 2026. The article makes it sound like they will never join. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.It also means UNLV, Air Force or any of the other remaining Mountain West schools are unlikely to join the Pac-12, since it would mean a prohibitively expensive exit fee with less than 12 months’ notice of departure. <-