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New PAC-12 Forming

billybud said:
"South Florida State College serves around 5,000 students a year.[5] It is a public college offering college credit certificates, career certificates, and associate degrees in over 73 fields of study.[6][7] The College also offers selected bachelor's degrees and has articulation agreements for students to pursue select bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees in partnership with four-year colleges and universities. Specialized courses are geared for adult education needs and coursework is offered through a mix of traditional classroom and distance learning instruction. The college is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges.
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I think the joke was lost in translation. We were referring to University of South Florida aka South Florida State University, since the All-State PAC 12 conference requires "State" in the name.
 
In terms of overall all sport conference championships, the PAC-12 took 5 of the top 6 Mountain West schools. The most winning program not going to the PAC-12 is New Mexico.

nevadasportsnet.com

Which schools have brought the Mountain West the most value under current membership?

I received a message today asking me for a link to my story about which Mountain West members have contributed the most money to the conference via NCAA Tournam
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Rufus said:
In terms of overall all sport conference championships, the PAC-12 took 5 of the top 6 Mountain West schools. The most winning program not going to the PAC-12 is New Mexico.

nevadasportsnet.com

Which schools have brought the Mountain West the most value under current membership?

I received a message today asking me for a link to my story about which Mountain West members have contributed the most money to the conference via NCAA Tournam
nevadasportsnet.com nevadasportsnet.com
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The entire new PAC12 is the most dastardly CRA event yet. Mtn West takes in two orphans and the orphans kill off the parents.

As for whether or not the reborn P12 is better than the AAC, Sunbelt, old Mtn West or whatever gets a giant shoulder shrug from me, its never going to matter. There is no scenario where this collection of schools gets a seat with the power 4.
 
What does everyone here think it would take in media rights from the New PAC12 to allow UConn to join and have the same financial foundation as the current CBS deal? Factor in the extra travel costs. Would 5-8 Million get it done?

EDIT: Do not factor in a potential exiit fee.
 
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Stinger92860 said:
What does everyone here think it would take in media rights from the New PAC12 to allow UConn to join and have the same financial foundation as the current CBS deal? Factor in the extra travel costs. Would 5-8 Million get it done?

EDIT: Do not factor in a potential exiit fee.
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What good is 5-8m per year if we going 3-9 every season because the travel has zapped our recruiting? The next 5 years for UConn football is about wins above anything. Must change the narrative with winning. Must be winning!

Also, no point joining the P12 when we are on the doorstep of the B12. If the B12 plans go bust by 2030, then its a whole new situation.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me thrice?
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Flying Sci-Fi GIF by Feliks Tomasz Konczakowski
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me thrice?
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The dance for life or death dictates you keep playing. The only alt to making the B12 is making the ACC. Either way, failing to seal a deal has no bearing on whether the effort continues. The effort continues. The entire purpose of the UConn Men’s BB out of conf scheduling effort is to collect more data points for the B12.
 
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Exit 4 said:
The dance for life or death dictates you keep playing. The only alt to making the B12 is making the ACC. Either way, failing to seal a deal has no bearing on whether the effort continues. The effort continues. The entire purpose of the UConn Men’s BB out of conf scheduling effort is to collect more data points for the B12.
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Where is that little thing called getting a better seed that is involved
 
Exit 4 said:
What good is 5-8m per year if we going 3-9 every season because the travel has zapped our recruiting? The next 5 years for UConn football is about wins above anything. Must change the narrative with winning. Must be winning!

Also, no point joining the P12 when we are on the doorstep of the B12. If the B12 plans go bust by 2030, then its a whole new situation.
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Sure, if I accept your premise that they can’t compete in the best G5 but I don’t. And if you support an all sports invite to the B12, it doesn’t make a very convincing to B12 presidents to argue at the same time that we’ll be competitive there because the long trips there are only 2000 to 2500 miles, even it’s for virtually every sports team (including FB) - not just 4 or 5 FB games.
 
Exit 4 said:
What good is 5-8m per year if we going 3-9 every season because the travel has zapped our recruiting? The next 5 years for UConn football is about wins above anything. Must change the narrative with winning. Must be winning!

Also, no point joining the P12 when we are on the doorstep of the B12. If the B12 plans go bust by 2030, then its a whole new situation.
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I’m not expecting us to go 3-9 under Mora, but I guess that could happen. Why can’t we go 7-5? If we cannot do that in the reconstituted PAC12 why would the B12 ever invite us?
 
Agree with Exit 4 for different reasons. We are in the process of establishing an identity. That identity involves having a winning FB program that is Independent. A few years of 10-2 or 9-3 with a decent bowl win and our new identity is solidified. Does it lead to the golden ticket? Who knows? It certainly has more cache than what we were the decade from 2014-2023.
 
Kowalski said:
Sure, if I accept your premise that they can’t compete in the best G5 but I don’t. And if you support an all sports invite to the B12, it doesn’t make a very convincing to B12 presidents to argue at the same time that we’ll be competitive there because the long trips there are only 2000 to 2500 miles, even it’s for virtually every sports team (including FB) - not just 4 or 5 FB games.
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Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.
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I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.

B12 (any P4) is clearly the goal but Uconn has to get an invite first. And at this point, I think showing FB commitment by winning in a top G5 is what they need to make the case for a P4 invite. Demonstrated success there should clearly position UConn ahead of Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, WSU, SDSU, USF for an invite. Otherwise, some will have the FB edge over UConn.

I don’t expect UConn to get a PAC invite anyway, but if they do and can negotiate low or no exit fees, it may be the opportunity to definitely prove they’re next in line.
 
Kowalski said:
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.

B12 (any P4) is clearly the goal but Uconn has to get an invite first. And at this point, I think showing FB commitment by winning in a top G5 is what they need to make the case for a P4 invite. Demonstrated success there should clearly position UConn ahead of Memphis, Tulane, UNLV, WSU, SDSU, USF for an invite. Otherwise, some will have the FB edge over UConn.

I don’t expect UConn to get a PAC invite anyway, but if they do and can negotiate low or no exit fees, it may be the opportunity to definitely prove they’re next in line.
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It’s dangerous. That’s a tough football league and we would be recruiting kids to play in a conference clear across the country. We might struggle in that conference as a fish out of water. However, the schedule is appealing to me.
 
AllHusky said:
Agree with Exit 4 for different reasons. We are in the process of establishing an identity. That identity involves having a winning FB program that is Independent. A few years of 10-2 or 9-3 with a decent bowl win and our new identity is solidified. Does it lead to the golden ticket? Who knows? It certainly has more cache than what we were the decade from 2014-2023.
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Yep ....the BYU approach, already tried the Houston, Cincy, UCF plan and failed
 
Kowalski said:
I’m not familiar with BE exit fee rules
but why would there be exit fees for moving football? FB isn’t in the Big East.
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I think UConn could move football to a conference without any penalty from the Big East.
If UConn moved to a new all sports conference, UConn would have a high exit fee:

Years 1 through 6 = $30 million
Years 7 to 10 = $15 million
After year 10 = $10 million

So, after this upcoming basketball season, the exit fee drops in half to $15 million.
 
UConnJim said:
I think UConn could move football to a conference without any penalty from the Big East.
If UConn moved to a new all sports conference, UConn would have a high exit fee:

Years 1 through 6 = $30 million
Years 7 to 10 = $15 million
After year 10 = $10 million

So, after this upcoming basketball season, the exit fee drops in half to $15 million.
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So big news coming next April. I knew it!!!

Charlie Brown Football GIF
 
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Exit 4 said:
Can’t justify the BE exit fee for the p12 and too risky to our recruiting momentum.

Meanwhile, if we get into the B12, we will at least have a seat at the power table and eventually revenue to offset the travel pain. No doubt, the B12 does bear some risk- but it’s worthwhile vs the P12 risk.
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I think you are on your own journey there.

No one has ever theorized that we would leave the Big East in all sports for the P12.

huskymedic said:
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As predicted, their media rights landed with a thud.
 
You would think the PAC-12 was a Power Conference based on the stats they are throwing out.....

pac-12.com

CBS Sports and Pac-12 extend partnership through the 2030-31 season

CBS Sports and the Pac-12 Conference today announced an extension of their partnership which is set to begin with the 2025 football season. The extended partnership will continue with the league’s transformation and begin with the new Pac-12’s launch ahead of the 2026-27 season and carry through...
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  • Top Five League in Football- Over the last four seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • Five of its seven football programs ranked among the College Football Playoff’s (CFP) Top 25, or 71% of its programs, the fourth-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the CFP Top 25 among all conferences in that time, as displayed here.
    • Six of its seven football programs ranked among the Associated Press’ (AP) Top 25, or 86% of its programs, the third-highest total percentage of programs ranked in the AP Top 25 among all conferences in that time.
    • A collective average Football Power Index (FPI) ranking of 74th among 136 total FBS teams (as of the 2026 season), the fifth-highest average FPI ranking among all conferences.
    • Boise State earn the No. 3 overall seed in the first edition of the expanded 12-team CFP in 2024.
  • Top Five League in Men’s Basketball- Over the last five seasons considering and comparing to future conference compositions (as of May 2025) beginning with the 2026-27 season, the new Pac-12 has had:
    • The fourth-best average NET ranking among all conferences, as displayed here.
    • Seven of its eight men’s basketball programs make the Men’s NCAA Tournament since 2021, including two appearances in the National Championship game.

Average NET Ranking over last 5 years:

1. Big 12 - 53
2. B1G - 55
3. SEC - 56
4. PAC 12 - 73
5. Big East - 74
6. ACC - 96
 
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