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New PAC-12 Forming

Rufus said:
This was poorly worded in the article. They are unlikely to join in 2026. The article makes it sound like they will never join. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.
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Didn’t the MW restructure the contracts so UNLV and Air Force make more than the new PAC12 guys?
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Didn’t the MW restructure the contracts so UNLV and Air Force make more than the new PAC12 guys?
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Supposedly, those schools are expected to receive around $20M from the exit fees, starting with a lump sum this year.

The P12 doesn’t even have a media deal yet, so who knows what they will make.
 
Thhe "State" league...Washington State, Oregon State, Boise State, Fresno State, Utah State, Colorado State, San Diego State, and maybe Texas State..
 
whiffnutmeg said:
Gonzaga is surely feeling good about the State of their upcoming conference schedules.
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Not having football...they can fashion themselves as the best of the west...by the by, I once had a mountain bike...Cannondale Beast of the East.
 
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Drew said:
No clue if this has actual legs but…
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Assuming Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA don't view the new PAC as favorable compared to leaving the AAC, and assuming the MWC payments to UNLV and Air Force hold up, this appears to be their best option.
 
I can't wait to see what big TV money they're going to get.

/s because some people won't get it.
 
If TexasSt goes PAC, does Sun Belt backfill? With whom? Sam Houston to keep the TX presence?

And with CUSA, PAC, MW all possibly wanting more members, who's the next FCS callup?
SacSt?
Idaho return to FBS?
Tarleton?
 
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Vowelguy said:
If TexasSt goes PAC, does Sun Belt backfill? With whom? Sam Houston to keep the TX presence?

And with CUSA, PAC, MW all possibly wanting more members, who's the next FCS callup?
SacSt?
Idaho return to FBS?
Tarleton?
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Slippery Rock?
 
huskymedic said:
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Knowing how conference deals are structured, I think that basically means someone needs to commit to the PAC-12 in the next 3 weeks before July 1 of this year (unless it was a school not currently in a conference for said sport :cool:)

I'm guessing other alternative is an FCS moving up, which probably has much less punitive costs for leaving but an FCS would require a ton more admin to get up to speed with FBS admin and ops so you probably wouldn't want to give yourself less than a year to sort that out.
 
Storrs South said:
Knowing how conference deals are structured, I think that basically means someone needs to commit to the PAC-12 in the next 3 weeks before July 1 of this year (unless it was a school not currently in a conference for said sport :cool:)

I'm guessing other alternative is an FCS moving up, which probably has much less punitive costs for leaving but an FCS would require a ton more admin to get up to speed with FBS admin and ops so you probably wouldn't want to give yourself less than a year to sort that out.
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Less punitive exit fee but I believe the new “application fee” for FCS to transition to FBS is a cool $5m.
 
Storrs South said:
Knowing how conference deals are structured, I think that basically means someone needs to commit to the PAC-12 in the next 3 weeks before July 1 of this year (unless it was a school not currently in a conference for said sport :cool:)

I'm guessing other alternative is an FCS moving up, which probably has much less punitive costs for leaving but an FCS would require a ton more admin to get up to speed with FBS admin and ops so you probably wouldn't want to give yourself less than a year to sort that out.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
I'm hearing rumblings that New Haven may be The final Pac "12" football playing member. What? You think the timing of their stepping up to DI is just a coincidence? There are no coincidences, my friends.
 
There may be splits of football and basketball conferences (if not structurally then defacto) If there is spending caps on athletes....basketball schools may spend 75% of their funds on basketball while other schools may spend 75% on football.
 
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UConnTrumbull said:


Canzano is an Oregon State reporter. Haven’t listened to his show but that’s certainly…interesting
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I don't see why Memphis would want or be able to move football only. How about Air Force or UConn football only. That's the ticket.
 
UConnTrumbull said:


Canzano is an Oregon State reporter. Haven’t listened to his show but that’s certainly…interesting
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In the current climate, I don't think any school other than UConn makes sense as football only. Unless Memphis were to join the Big East, at which point I think both Memphis and UConn would become somewhat equally desirable options.
 
WrenchFan69 said:
In the current climate, I don't think any school other than UConn makes sense as football only. Unless Memphis were to join the Big East, at which point I think both Memphis and UConn would become somewhat equally desirable options.
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Northern Illinois did just go FB only to the MW, so there are schools willing to sacrifice everything for FB. I’m not sure I see another such appealing midwest/west school in that category but maybe.

Further away, Im sure Liberty would do it.
 
Kolumbo said:
I don't see why Memphis would want or be able to move football only. How about Air Force or UConn football only. That's the ticket.
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If we took that it would be a test admission that we have abandoned the possibility of P4 before membership.
 
Vowelguy said:
Northern Illinois did just go FB only to the MW, so there are schools willing to sacrifice everything for FB. I’m not sure I see another such appealing midwest/west school in that category but maybe.

Further away, Im sure Liberty would do it.
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Neither of those schools would be desirable by the PAC-12.
 
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CL82 said:
If we took that it would be a test admission that we have abandoned the possibility of P4 before membership.
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Haven't we? We are not getting a P4 invite given the status quo. If something dramatic were to happen, then perhaps UConn will be considered. UConn could make another change if that bridge were to materialize. In the meantime, the PAC 12 football programs are solid and similar in stature to UConn. Don't get me wrong, it's not gonna happen. But if there were a grouping of those programs in the East looking for a member, I'd take it. Heck I'd take the AAC football only.

WrenchFan69 said:
Neither of those schools would be desirable by the PAC-12.
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UConn State, South Florida State, Memphis State
 
Kolumbo said:
Haven't we? We are not getting a P4 invite given the status quo. If something dramatic were to happen, then perhaps UConn will be considered. UConn could make another change if that bridge were to materialize. In the meantime, the PAC 12 football programs are solid and similar in stature to UConn. Don't get me wrong, it's not gonna happen. But if there were a grouping of those programs in the East looking for a member, I'd take it. Heck I'd take the AAC football only.


UConn State, South Florida State, Memphis State
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I don't disagree with any of that, I just think that joining the Pac 12 remnants means that there's nothing on the horizon.
 
South Florida State has four sports....baseball, volleyball, softball, cross country...not yet ready for prime time

Almost a community college spread over campuses in multiple counties, they primarily provide AA degrees that allow transfer to Florida institutions like USF, UCF, FSU, Florida..... Their Jacaranda Hotel campus in Avon Park is interestingly historic (1928 old Florida..Babe Ruth Clark Gable and others once stayed there).
 
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billybud said:
South Florida State has four sports....baseball, volleyball, softball, cross country...not yet ready for prime time

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USF sponsors 20 sports (21 next year). The school in Gsinesville sponsors 20.
FSU also 20.
 
billybud said:
South Florida State has four sports....baseball, volleyball, softball, cross country...not yet ready for prime time

Almost a community college spread over campuses in multiple counties, they primarily provide AA degrees that allow transfer to Florida institutions like USF, UCF, FSU, Florida..... Their Jacaranda Hotel campus in Avon Park is interestingly historic (1928 old Florida..Babe Ruth Clark Gable and others once stayed there).
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I am by no means an expert on SFSU but I would not be surprised if it got invited to the party. Yes it is a young university but onward and upward. Hardly a community college based on the data I read. I also found out about Florida Polytechnic University which was split off from USF in 2012. Quite the interesting campus if you check out googlemaps
  • Founded in 1956
  • Approaching 50k students in total
  • AAU
  • 2 bowl wins in a row under Alex Golesh - dude was born in Moscow and grew up here
  • 2023 - 45-0 over Sryacuse
  • 2024 - 41-39 over SJSU
  • designated by the Florida Board of Governors as one of three "Preeminent State Research Universities" along with UF and FSU
  • On Campus Stadium in the works
  • "The plan presented today by USF leadership includes a project cost of $348.5 million, which has been revised from what was approved by the board in June 2023. Since that time USF has added to the project’s scope, including design and structural upgrades for potential future stadium expansion beyond the current expected seating capacity of approximately 35,000, build-out of academic space in the facility, vertical expansion of the Tampa General Hospital Center for Athletic Excellence, and enhanced locker room amenities, in addition to the general cost of goods increasing over the past two years. The funds added to the project will come from interest earnings on the $200 million in financing previously issued by the USF Financing Corp."
 
"South Florida State College serves around 5,000 students a year.[5] It is a public college offering college credit certificates, career certificates, and associate degrees in over 73 fields of study.[6][7] The College also offers selected bachelor's degrees and has articulation agreements for students to pursue select bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees in partnership with four-year colleges and universities. Specialized courses are geared for adult education needs and coursework is offered through a mix of traditional classroom and distance learning instruction. The college is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges.
 
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