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8893 said:
Yes, I was joking and making the broad Brooklyn hipster stereotype. I know the difference and the geography. My father is from Brooklyn.

I go there frequently--Williamsburg, that is. And good friends lived in Park Slope for years and we also frequented that part then.

I was going to ask if you owned a Britax baby stroller but I'm sure they're passe now, as we've been out of the baby scene for several years.
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I figured. You'd be surprised how many people are like, "You live in Brooklyn? My friend lives there!" Heck, friends in Manhattan have no friggin' clue where anything in Brooklyn is.

No Britax, McLaren, whatever. My wife and I happen to be the only people in Park Slope over the age of 29 without children. As you may have seen, we did just get a dog. Incremental increases in personal responsibility.

We bought an apartment there because Manhattan prices are insane, Carroll Gardens/Boerum Hill prices are also insane, and Park Slope prices are slightly less insane. We're also 1.5 blocks from Prospect Park, which is awesome. And our building is zoned for the second best elementary school in Brooklyn.
 
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nomar said:
We're also 1.5 blocks from Prospect Park, which is awesome. And our building is zoned for the second best elementary school in Brooklyn.
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I love Prospect Park. Great venue. I usually get there for at least a show or two each summer, so I'll give you a heads up next time I do.

Our friends who lived in Park Slope lived there precisely because of the elementary school issue, so we heard a lot about that. They were so hard pressed to find anything acceptable when they had to move that they ended up in CT instead.
 
8893 said:
I love Prospect Park. Great venue. I usually get there for at least a show or two each summer, so I'll give you a heads up next time I do.

Our friends who lived in Park Slope lived there precisely because of the elementary school issue, so we heard a lot about that. They were so hard pressed to find anything acceptable when they had to move that they ended up in CT instead.
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There are some decent shows there. Yeah, give me a heads up.

That's my concern. We've got a 2BR apartment and if we have more than 1 kid, we'll have to move. At that point, we won't be able to find a 3BR below $2M. Ugh.
 
superjohn said:
The Nets were incredibly boring and mediocre when they had Deron Williams, Pierce, Allan Anderson, and Joe Johnson wasn't over the hill. Now they keep their incredibly boring style of play with much less talent. Brook Lopez has good post moves and puts up pretty good scoring number but he's a bore to watch and is softer than Charmin. They have the worst point guard rotation in the league and if you are banking on Lopez and Thaddeus Young for your future, you have no future.
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The Charmin remark brings to mind a memory of mine that I hadn't thought about in around nearly 25 years. I was working in a small grocery store for a part time job after school when I was 16. One day an ice cream delivery was late and the truck driver said that the ice cream had melted a bit, but wasn't "Charmin soft". The assistant manager then bellowed to the driver that he didn't want the ice cream and he left.
Stories like this are the reason why I'm never the life of a party.
 
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Where do the people who make NYC run actually live? As Manhattan has gotten so obscenely expensive in the last decade or so I'm left wondering where the restaurant workers live, the cops, fireman, teachers, delivery drivers, cab drivers, construction workers etc.? People with high paying jobs can't afford Manhattan where the hell do the regular Joes live? Most people who used to think they could afford Manhattan have moved to Brooklyn which has priced so many out of Brooklyn, my guess is Queens will soon be too expensive for many.
 
I'm so lucky to have lived in Manhattan right outta college from '76-'86, studio rental at $240/month on 13th street behind the Palladium making $5/hour as a draftsman. CBGB, Mudd Club. Now the average priced condo is over $1million. Crazy.
 
My dad grew up in Brooklyn and I live there for while as a tot. My aunt owned a brownstone on Herkimer St. And I lived with her for awhile, off and on till I was 3 or 4. I remember it very well.
 
Ehh! Couldnt care less. He`ll catch on somewhere or work his way back through the D league. He can play and i find it hard to believe there isnt room for him on an nba bench somewhere. Besides i dont want to see Boat in them ugly as sh#t Brooklyn unis:p
 
Bezzz said:
I'm so lucky to have lived in Manhattan right outta college from '76-'86, studio rental at $240/month on 13th street behind the Palladium making $5/hour as a draftsman. CBGB, Mudd Club. Now the average priced condo is over $1million. Crazy.
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Manhattan feels like a high-end outdoor mall these days.
 
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My brother did the Brooklyn thing, but when he factored in transportation, and even a car for awhile, parking, he ditched it and went to live within a couple blocks of work in Manhattan. Ended up costing him about the same price.
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah and who could have thunk this? :rolleyes: "Kentucky coach John Calipari has a strong interest in the Team USA coaching position, per CBS Sports."
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I don't see Jerry Colangelo biting on that one, given both Cal's lack of success in the pros, and how much more rigor and importance the USA BB program has received in recent years. I'd be surprised if he got it.
 
superjohn said:
Where do the people who make NYC run actually live? As Manhattan has gotten so obscenely expensive in the last decade or so I'm left wondering where the restaurant workers live, the cops, fireman, teachers, delivery drivers, cab drivers, construction workers etc.? People with high paying jobs can't afford Manhattan where the hell do the regular Joes live? Most people who used to think they could afford Manhattan have moved to Brooklyn which has priced so many out of Brooklyn, my guess is Queens will soon be too expensive for many.
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See my comments above re Brooklyn. "Brooklyn" is not expensive. Parts of Brooklyn are expensive. Other parts aren't. Brooklyn is big: with some exceptions, the farther from Manhattan, the cheaper it is. Most of Queens is affordable. Harlem is affordable. Staten Island is affordable. Manhattan is a tiny island. The people you're talking about, if they don't have rent-stabilized apartments or aren't living in apartments they inherited, live in one of the outer-boroughs.

There are some funny stereotypes being perpetuated here. Most Brooklyn "hipsters" aren't living off of Mommy & Daddy's money. They're working to pay their rent, and saving basically nothing. People come to NY for adventure and/or to pursue their artistic dreams, and they're willing to live in a shoebox to do it.
 
nomar said:
There are some decent shows there. Yeah, give me a heads up.

That's my concern. We've got a 2BR apartment and if we have more than 1 kid, we'll have to move. At that point, we won't be able to find a 3BR below $2M. Ugh.
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My cousin’s family in Park Slope just made that decision. With 2 kids in a 2 bedroom apartment in Park Slope with the oldest a year away from Kindergarten, they made the move to Jersey. She is OK with it as she grew-up in Bergen County (they moved to Union county); but it killed her husband who was born and raised in Brooklyn (went to Catholic schools). He was so committed to Brooklyn that he commuted for the last 5 years to a job at Prudential in Newark.
 
nomar said:
There are some funny stereotypes being perpetuated here. Most Brooklyn "hipsters" aren't living off of Mommy & Daddy's money. They're working to pay their rent, and saving basically nothing. People come to NY for adventure and/or to pursue their artistic dreams, and they're willing to live in a shoebox to do it.
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More speaking about Williamsburg hipsters. And hipsters in general. It's usually middle class kids in most places. The real artists don't seem to be as worried about those affectations.
 
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intlzncster said:
More speaking about Williamsburg hipsters. And hipsters in general. It's usually middle class kids in most places. The real artists don't seem to be as worried about those affectations.
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I think you're overgeneralizing to a significant degree. "Middle class" is a very broad term. Kids living in Bed-Stuy aren't Trustafarians, even if their parents give them a few hundred dollars to go towards their rent in their shared 4-bedroom, 1 bath apartment.

Look, I recognize that there is a greater concentration of hipsters in Brooklyn that most places. And sure, a lot of them come from upper-middle-class families. But most don't. Believe it, don't believe it. I live here, and that's my experience.

The "real" artists (what's a fake artist?) DO worry about affectations. It's part of what gives them an edge, whether they paint or sculpt or do modern dance or play the bass.

Anyway, you know who doesn't live in Brooklyn anymore? Ryan Boatright.
 
intlzncster said:
More speaking about Williamsburg hipsters. And hipsters in general. It's usually middle class kids in most places. The real artists don't seem to be as worried about those affectations.
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They built artist housing downtown in Boston called the "Ink Block," and it's like $2500/mo for a 1bdr. The only artists who can afford that are the ones who are living off of their parents.
 
CallMeBruce said:
They built artist housing downtown in Boston called the "Ink Block," and it's like $2500/mo for a 1bdr. The only artists who can afford that are the ones who are living off of their parents.
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Hahahah. I'm well familiar with Boston hipsters, but hadn't heard of that. Ammo for my self-righteous war chest.
 
nomar said:
I think you're overgeneralizing to a significant degree. "Middle class" is a very broad term. Kids living in Bed-Stuy aren't Trustafarians, even if their parents give them a few hundred dollars to go towards their rent in their shared 4-bedroom, 1 bath apartment.

Look, I recognize that there is a greater concentration of hipsters in Brooklyn that most places. And sure, a lot of them come from upper-middle-class families. But most don't. Believe it, don't believe it. I live here, and that's my experience.

The "real" artists (what's a fake artist?) DO worry about affectations. It's part of what gives them an edge, whether they paint or sculpt or do modern dance or play the bass.

Anyway, you know who doesn't live in Brooklyn anymore? Ryan Boatright.
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When you make any assumption or categorization of a group of people, you are generalizing. But you have to do it to make any sense of the world. There's always exceptions.

I'm well familiar with hipsters in general (on both individual and group levels), but haven't been to Brooklyn in ages, so defer to you on the locals. When I was speaking of real artists, I'm talking about the type that will go without eating for days to buy paint, willing to bleed for their art so to speak. They dress all sorts of ways obviously, but often avant garde or very plain, as they don't bother wasting money on clothes. I find a lot of hipsters 'dabble' in art because it's trendy, not because their life depends on it. JMO
 
I lived in a loft in Williamsburg for a couple years...1984-86. 108 N. 6th Street, above a meat packing plant. There was nothing there, a polish diner and laundromat on Bedford. Six people lived on my block, four in my building and two across the street. Two architects, two artists, a musician and an accountant (he was a cool accountant though, Billy Idol was his client).

We had a crazy drunk landlord named John Henry who was buying these old buildings and installing loft living spaces (probably without permits).I thoroughly regret not buying a building then.:oops:
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
At least you have Islanders hockey and a new Artichoke Pizza haha.

(I used to live in Park Slope)
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Just got a slice from that Artichoke. Unlike Ryan Boatright, the slice was mediocre. Just like Park Slope.
 
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CallMeBruce said:
They built artist housing downtown in Boston called the "Ink Block," and it's like $2500/mo for a 1bdr. The only artists who can afford that are the ones who are living off of their parents.
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I don't know, I feel like some of those craft people who set up at SoWa market near the inkblock probably rake in a lot of dough. But I didn't know that was 'artist' housing, the new Whole Foods is right there so it makes sense!
 
CallMeBruce said:
They built artist housing downtown in Boston called the "Ink Block," and it's like $2500/mo for a 1bdr. The only artists who can afford that are the ones who are living off of their parents.
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Buffalo $400 http://www.artspace.org/our-places/artspace-buffalo-lofts
A similar space in Buffalo is normally $1000 ($700 for a small 1Bdr).
And this is why the city is having a pretty big influx of people over the last 5 years.
15.5k sub 30 year olds moved here in last 3 years.
For a city of 220k, not bad (suburbs are over 1 million in population).
Also add 3k immigrants per year (C. America, SE Asia, Ethiopia and Sudan)
 
Kembacity said:
I don't know, I feel like some of those craft people who set up at SoWa market near the inkblock probably rake in a lot of dough. But I didn't know that was 'artist' housing, the new Whole Foods is right there so it makes sense!
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Hipsters LOVE wholefoods.
 
upstater said:
Buffalo $400 http://www.artspace.org/our-places/artspace-buffalo-lofts
A similar space in Buffalo is normally $1000 ($700 for a small 1Bdr).
And this is why the city is having a pretty big influx of people over the last 5 years.
15.5k sub 30 year olds moved here in last 3 years.
For a city of 220k, not bad (suburbs are over 1 million in population).
Also add 3k immigrants per year (C. America, SE Asia, Ethiopia and Sudan)
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Now that is a good idea. Especially for a city like Buffalo that isn't exactly a cultural mecca. Good way to build that. Good business. intlzncster two thumbs up.
 
CallMeBruce said:
They built artist housing downtown in Boston called the "Ink Block," and it's like $2500/mo for a 1bdr. The only artists who can afford that are the ones who are living off of their parents.
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Just checked that out and it's pretty impressive! For 2500/mo it better be.
 
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