Need to shake things up | Page 2 | The Boneyard

Need to shake things up

UConnSwag11 said:
I was for having Diarra start, but I think Jackson at PG is the best play. We can’t hope anymore Diarra, Newton, or Alleyne, will figure it out. Season is halfway over. Jackson has to play point. You play your best players and then adjust according to each game
Expand ...
I think Jackson is more than capable enough to handle the point. Don't count on him to score a ton but just handle the ball. Keep your composure on D and no silly, overly aggressive fouls.

Let's try Sanongo and Clingan so we have some rim protection and we wouldn't see the double teams.

Get some shooters - Joey and AK out there with them. If they get beat on D, you have the two bigs to help out.
 
DW1361 said:
I wasn’t able to watch the game, but from what I have read we turned the ball over a lot. How would that improve with both Sanogo and Clingan on the floor at the same time? Plus, who do we have to come in for them or are they expected to play 35+ minutes?
Expand ...
Sampson Johnson, hopefully, and possibly this Wednesday. Also, hopefully Johnson contributes immediately now that he is fully recovered from his foot injury.
 
jpeakin said:
I think Jackson is more than capable enough to handle the point. Don't count on him to score a ton but just handle the ball. Keep your composure on D and no silly, overly aggressive fouls.

Let's try Sanongo and Clingan so we have some rim protection and we wouldn't see the double teams.

Get some shooters - Joey and AK out there with them. If they get beat on D, you have the two bigs to help out.
Expand ...
Sorry, swap Hawk for Joey
 
We have to get stops. Period. If we get stops we can run. Otherwise we're toast with this personnel
 
.-.
Hey Guys,

Excellent brain-storming here.

One thing must be said RE: using Sanogo & Clingan as Twin Towers. HURLEY MUST get Sanogo to completely buy in on making Clingan better & working to use the twin tower to full advantage. Otherwise....

I've been watching Sanogo closely as Clingan evolves. I don't think he is accepting Clingan at all. Sanogo looks like a man apart, unable to move outside his 1-2 offensive moves, rarely passing out, & never passing once to Clingan when they have played together. He believes all his pre-season hype. It's easy to see.

Sanogo thinks Clingan is taking bread off his table (it may end up that way). But if they work together & accept each other, it could work. But the odd's of success mid-season for sustainable success with these Twin Towers are not good - especially with Sanogo's obvious attitude in this scenario.

I think Sanogo needs some more "wake up" time on the pine. And Clingan should get the minutes, even with his freshman mistakes. His upside is huge. And Sanogo detracts from his rapid development. Sadly, Sanogo does not make anyone on this Huskie team better, despite his stats/

Utilizing aTwin Towers can be incredibly effective, like watching Sampson & Olajuwon play way above the square on the backboard, passing to & making each other better for Houston in the 80's. Can Sanogo do that????

Father Demo
 
jpeakin said:
I think Jackson is more than capable enough to handle the point. Don't count on him to score a ton but just handle the ball. Keep your composure on D and no silly, overly aggressive fouls.

Let's try Sanongo and Clingan so we have some rim protection and we wouldn't see the double teams.

Get some shooters - Joey and AK out there with them. If they get beat on D, you have the two bigs to help out.
Expand ...
What about Hawkins?
 
Demo Square said:
Utilizing aTwin Towers can be incredibly effective, like watching Sampson & Olajuwon play way above the square on the backboard, passing to & making each other better for Houston in the 80's. Can Sanogo do that????

Father Demo
Expand ...

I agree that a twin towers can be effective with the right combination of players. In Houston’s case, Sampson was a jump shooting forward in a 7-4 body. So, despite his height, he took to playing the 4 very naturally. But in our case, neither Sanogo nor Clingan is a natural 4.
 
.-.
Demo Square said:
Hey Guys,

Excellent brain-storming here.

One thing must be said RE: using Sanogo & Clingan as Twin Towers. HURLEY MUST get Sanogo to completely buy in on making Clingan better & working to use the twin tower to full advantage. Otherwise....

I've been watching Sanogo closely as Clingan evolves. I don't think he is accepting Clingan at all. Sanogo looks like a man apart, unable to move outside his 1-2 offensive moves, rarely passing out, & never passing once to Clingan when they have played together. He believes all his pre-season hype. It's easy to see.

Sanogo thinks Clingan is taking bread off his table (it may end up that way). But if they work together & accept each other, it could work. But the odd's of success mid-season for sustainable success with these Twin Towers are not good - especially with Sanogo's obvious attitude in this scenario.

I think Sanogo needs some more "wake up" time on the pine. And Clingan should get the minutes, even with his freshman mistakes. His upside is huge. And Sanogo detracts from his rapid development. Sadly, Sanogo does not make anyone on this Husky team better, despite his stats/

Utilizing aTwin Towers can be incredibly effective, like watching Sampson & Olajuwon play way above the square on the backboard, passing to & making each other better for Houston in the 80's. Can Sanogo do that????

Father Demo
Expand ...
I cannot like this analysis enough. Sanogo's downhill spiral started once he realized that Clingan was overtaking him. This may have been what started the locker room dysharmony that is being spoken about now.
 
From what I have observed is that Sanogo does not have a great vertical and will never be in the same level as Olajuwon or Samson. Sanogo’s game is similar to LSU’s Big Baby. Not as huge as Big Baby, but not much game above the rim. Just the same, it would be awesome to see some minutes with both on the floor together. Just not feasible for long minutes unfortunately.
 
Newton is a complete enigma....took 1 shot against St. John's, missed 2 FT's, had 1 assist & 1 rebound. That is the line of a disinterested player. I'm hoping he just partied too much on Saturday and was half asleep for the game.

He played pretty well at the PK tourney against good competition so he has it in him to play well in BE but just not happening for some reason. We clearly need him to be a 10+ point per game guy so Dan Hurley & staff need to get him going or we're in trouble.
 
Last edited:
Hi-Low said:
Newton is a complete enigma....took 1 shot against St. John's, missed 2 FT's, had 1 assist & 1 rebound. That is the line of a player of a disinterested player.
Expand ...
maybe it has to do with Jackson starting and dominating the ball. He was playing much better before jackson came back. With that said, not Newtown’s fault entirely. Hurley needs to see that and make the change. Newton and Jackson need to meet and figure out how to play together
 
.-.
Sometimes it’s up to the players to take initiative. If Newtown, Alleye, Sanogo or whoever is unhappy, then prove yourself on the court. They all get enough minutes but some have done little to make the most of those minutes.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
I'm a casual, so I'll handle this: Start Calcaterra instead of Newton, and sub Newton in for Jackson when Andre inevitably gets in foul trouble.
Expand ...
Why not. Joey has shown a willingness to take it to the hoop, and he did seem to find his shot later in the game yesterday. It might hurt us on defense, so maybe play DC a little more to clean up any mistakes.
 
With Jackson at the point I’m hoping he realizes he should drive more instead of being on the perimeter. Karaban and Hawkins can occupy the 3point line with Karaban can also mixing it up inside
 
Glastonhusky said:
Why not. Joey has shown a willingness to take it to the hoop, and he did seem to find his shot later in the game yesterday. It might hurt us on defense, so maybe play DC a little more to clean up any mistakes.
Expand ...
Joey should get more minutes than those three
 
UConnSwag11 said:
What guard is scoring more than 4? He is the best at facilitating the offense, pushing the pace, better at entry passes and shoots a better 3point % than the guards. Not great at 3% but better than them.
Expand ...
Actually Jackson is shooting 29% from 3 which is worst than Newton and Calcatera. Unfortunately Jackson isn't the answer at point as he isn't a great penetrator or scorer. He should be on the court with a PG to help out. Newton and Diarra just need to play better or else we are screwed. I think it is obvious we need to play bigger up front. We just don't have much rim protection with Karaban playing next to Sanogo. Hopefully Johnson can help out there or we can get see more of the big 2 together
 
3rdbass said:
Actually Jackson is shooting 29% from 3 which is worst than Newton and Calcatera. Unfortunately Jackson isn't the answer at point as he isn't a great penetrator or scorer. He should be on the court with a PG to help out. Newton and Diarra just need to play better or else we are screwed. I think it is obvious we need to play bigger up front. We just don't have much rim protection with Karaban playing next to Sanogo. Hopefully Johnson can help out there or we can get see more of the big 2 together
Expand ...
There is no difference between our guards running point, and Jackson. Like I said in that comment, jackson is the best at facilitating the offense, passing, pushing the pace, better at entry passes in to the bigs. He doesn’t dribble the air out of the ball. With Karaban and Hawkins on the perimeter, that will keep teams honest and allow Clingan and Sanogo to work inside. Sanogo has show he can even hit a three. IMO Sanogo needs to nail down a mid-range jumpshot so we can run a pick and pop with him. His offense near the basket is too predictably. I would like to see more pick and pops with Karaban like we ran with Giffey in 2014. We have a pick and roll with Clingan. With the big playing together, they can run some high-lows.

Defensively we have a big to guard the rim and Sanogo who can guard the four. I’m assuming we can get more stops and rebounds which will allow us to get out in transition for easier buckets
 
.-.
Huskyfan4evr said:
I really think Newton needs to be more assertive. He looks disinterested to me. No fire. I hope Wednesday there are some changes in lineup and offense. Very predictable and just look weak.
Expand ...
I know what you mean about Newton. For several weeks now he's seemed to have a little smile (not exactly a smirk but different and for a while I thought he was exhibiting supreme confidence) as he approaches the FT line, doesn't drive, takes bad 3's, acts like he doesn't feel he belongs here, and gets beaten by any guard who drives on him.
 
UofCT said:
Can we see what the euros can do?
Expand ...
I was hoping Dan Hurley would play Romouglu (spelling?) earlier. Probably too late now, but didn't he come here touted as someone with Greek national team credentials?
 
Last edited:
UConnSwag11 said:
There is no difference between our guards running point, and Jackson. Like I said in that comment, jackson is the best at facilitating the offense, passing, pushing the pace, better at entry passes in to the bigs. He doesn’t dribble the air out of the ball. With Karaban and Hawkins on the perimeter, that will keep teams honest and allow Clingan and Sanogo to work inside. Sanogo has show he can even hit a three. IMO Sanogo needs to nail down a mid-range jumpshot so we can run a pick and pop with him. His offense near the basket is too predictably. I would like to see more pick and pops with Karaban like we ran with Giffey in 2014. We have a pick and roll with Clingan. With the big playing together, they can run some high-lows.

Defensively we have a big to guard the rim and Sanogo who can guard the four. I’m assuming we can get more stops and rebounds which will allow us to get out in transition for easier buckets
Expand ...
People are just go sag off Jackson and double team Sanogo when he is the PG. I rather Jackson playing off the ball and then finding met at the top of the key for passes coming off another pass. He seems to do well in that role. As a true PG I just don't see it and I doubt Hurley will do it much. He did it once in the St. John's game and it didn't work out. I just think going back to more traditional line-up is the key. We just don't have the shooters to play 4 out on this team.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Why not Springs before those guys?
Expand ...
That's been my mantra for over a year. It seems the limited time RS plays he always gets rebounds, has size and quickness, but never gets to see the court. I keep thinking that's how Whaley was treated Dan Hurley's first year and wonder if RS might blossom if he ever sees the court. If he doesn't get any play the rest of the season I hope he goes somewhere where he'll get playing time and I'll be rooting for him.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
maybe it has to do with Jackson starting and dominating the ball. He was playing much better before jackson came back. With that said, not Newtown’s fault entirely. Hurley needs to see that and make the change. Newton and Jackson need to meet and figure out how to play together
Expand ...
Having made a similar observation about the shift in Newton's play since Jackson returned, I have no disagreement with your suggestions. I question your claiming them as "needs."

Similarly, your several posts from the past hour or so have been thoughtful without insisting upon agreement that your ideas are correct, or that the head coach stinks for not adopting them. I can't say the same about many posts I've been reading.

In addition to rattled emotions, there are more good questions than hard answers right now.

Uncertainty is often stressful and not apparent to people experiencing loss of equilibrium. I see it in the head coach, the layers, and the fans.

Thanks for today's contributions.
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,214
Messages
4,557,492
Members
10,442
Latest member
StatsMan


Top Bottom