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Some thoughts on the ND game:
  • Any win over the Irish is enjoyable. But something was clearly missing for me this year. That tension that only happens when an opponent has a real chance to beat you just wasn’t there. I hope ND gets better soon, so I can enjoy beating them that much more.
  • Geno appears to be reasonably comfortable with an 8-player rotation this year, which is certainly better than the past few years. It would be great to get to 9, but that might be a bridge too far.
  • Megan was great again today, particularly on the boards. There was a play in the first half that I just have to watch again on replay. Megan came flying in on the wing and skied for a rebound which she appeared to grab near her feet. :eek:
  • Unbeatens TN & MS St both go down today to unranked teams. TN was probably overdue, but MS St was something of a shocker. Anyone that diminishes UConn’s 8-0 start just doesn’t appreciate what is happening in WBB today.
  • Hard to imagine things could get any worst for the Irish, but when SB came out early in the 3rd qtr with a knee problem and never came back on the court, it’s pretty clear that the “luck of the Irish” does not apply to WBB.
 
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There were periods of excellent play, good play, and not so good play but the ratio of good and excellent to poor play is increasing from game to game. And Geno has a bench all of a sudden! Big kudos to Kyla and Mollyfor making the most of their minutes, not just playing it safe while a starter takes a breather but contributing in a meaningful way.
 
oldude said:
Some thoughts on the ND game:
  • Any win over the Irish is enjoyable. But something was clearly missing for me this year. That tension that only happens when an opponent has a real chance to beat you just wasn’t there. I hope ND gets better soon, so I can enjoy beating them that much more.
  • Geno appears to be reasonably comfortable with an 8-player rotation this year, which is certainly better than the past few years. It would be great to get to 9, but that might be a bridge too far.
  • Megan was great again today, particularly on the boards. There was a play in the first half that I just have to watch again on replay. Megan came flying in on the wing and skied for a rebound which she appeared to grab near her feet. :eek:
  • Unbeatens TN & MS St both go down today to unranked teams. TN was probably overdue, but MS St was something of a shocker. Anyone that diminishes UConn’s 8-0 start just doesn’t appreciate what is happening in WBB today.
  • Hard to imagine things could get any worst for the Irish, but when SB came out early in the 3rd qtr with a knee problem and never came back on the court, it’s pretty clear that the “luck of the Irish” does not apply to WBB.
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On your last point, ND played better without her.
 
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I take no pleasure in the current state of ND wcbb. In fact, I am sad to see how a once great program has fallen on such hard times. I have been called a "hater" of Irish bb, but I am no hater. I was raised in a religious family in which hate was not permitted. Only love was allowed. So let me say to ND that I love you, and I pray for you every day (at least). However, I have no choice but to state unequivocally that your team really stinks.
 
Well, I don't care what MM says or does. ND is clearly less talented than past years. Its going to take some time for ND to rise again. Good recruiting class next year but so do we. Could be three years before ND returns to be ND. And anytime we beat down ND is a good day!

As to us, very good 1st half. Good ball movement, rebounding and defense. Second half, not so good at times. Liv was a monster down low another double/ double. She is improving game by game. Megan quietly destroys teams. ND didn't even try to guard her at times. Meg stood there with the ball, nobody challenged her and she calmly drops a 3. Great to see Crystal back ad looking healthy. Very aggressive on the boards - relentless.
 
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oldude said:
Some thoughts on the ND game:
  • Any win over the Irish is enjoyable. But something was clearly missing for me this year. That tension that only happens when an opponent has a real chance to beat you just wasn’t there. I hope ND gets better soon, so I can enjoy beating them that much more.
  • Geno appears to be reasonably comfortable with an 8-player rotation this year, which is certainly better than the past few years. It would be great to get to 9, but that might be a bridge too far.
  • Megan was great again today, particularly on the boards. There was a play in the first half that I just have to watch again on replay. Megan came flying in on the wing and skied for a rebound which she appeared to grab near her feet. :eek:
  • Unbeatens TN & MS St both go down today to unranked teams. TN was probably overdue, but MS St was something of a shocker. Anyone that diminishes UConn’s 8-0 start just doesn’t appreciate what is happening in WBB today.
  • Hard to imagine things could get any worst for the Irish, but when SB came out early in the 3rd qtr with a knee problem and never came back on the court, it’s pretty clear that the “luck of the Irish” does not apply to WBB.
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It's actually Miss St's second lost, as they lost to Stanford on 11/30. But still, shocking indeed!
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Muffet gave the line the crisp shrug off ... I expect no less from her.
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No half time face to face with Holly. just a gave Holly a couple of couple of quotes where she tried to spin it to poor luck on shots.

Also took a quick tour around the "bench" some poster there is claiming that they won the second half.
 
oldude said:
Some thoughts on the ND game:

  • Unbeatens TN & MS St both go down today to unranked teams. TN was probably overdue, but MS St was something of a shocker. Anyone that diminishes UConn’s 8-0 start just doesn’t appreciate what is happening in WBB today.
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I don't really think it is 'whats happening in WBB today' but what has happened for all of WCBB history. It is really hard to go through a regular season/conference tournament unbeaten and even harder to then win the NCAA. No team outside of Uconn has done both more than once. Uconn has done it 6 times and has done the first 3 additional times and lost their last game in the NCAAs (elite 8 once and semis twice.)
Baylor TN and Texas are the other 3 teams to do both, and
Vermont twice, LA Tech, Liberty, Princeton and ND have all done the regular/conference once but lost in the NCAAs.

That is 38 years of the NCAA era and 18 total times a D1 team has entered the NCAAs undefeated with Uconn accounting for half. It is less than 1 year in four that a team other than Uconn pulls it off, and if you drop out the no hopers VT, Liberty and Princeton, it is down to 13% or close to one year in 8.

I agree that this year some perennial powers are weaker than usual but I think our feelings about Uconn being less of a guarantee in the FF colors the expectations for the rest of the country - and the reality is the rest of the country is almost always vulnerable.

Other than Uconn (7) and no hope Princeton (1), Baylor and ND are the only teams to enter the NCAA undefeated since 2000 and it last happened in 2014. Looking at what has happened so far it likely isn't happening this year either.
 
oldude said:
Some thoughts on the ND game:
  • Any win over the Irish is enjoyable. But something was clearly missing for me this year. That tension that only happens when an opponent has a real chance to beat you just wasn’t there. I hope ND gets better soon, so I can enjoy beating them that much more.
  • Geno appears to be reasonably comfortable with an 8-player rotation this year, which is certainly better than the past few years. It would be great to get to 9, but that might be a bridge too far.
  • Megan was great again today, particularly on the boards. There was a play in the first half that I just have to watch again on replay. Megan came flying in on the wing and skied for a rebound which she appeared to grab near her feet. :eek:
  • Unbeatens TN & MS St both go down today to unranked teams. TN was probably overdue, but MS St was something of a shocker. Anyone that diminishes UConn’s 8-0 start just doesn’t appreciate what is happening in WBB today.
  • Hard to imagine things could get any worst for the Irish, but when SB came out early in the 3rd qtr with a knee problem and never came back on the court, it’s pretty clear that the “luck of the Irish” does not apply to WBB.
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By the numbers
1. I enjoyed the game but you are right something, (ND) was missing
2. The 8 rotation is working and a Gift to us and Geno, where did Irwin and Molly come from???
3. 85 percent of the time Megan is a pleasure to watch. That 15 percent she over does and tries too hard.
4. MS was a shocker. They too are not the MS state of 3 plus years ago but ONLY Geno has the long time success that fools us Uconn Fans into believing all top teams stay on top forever. I was sorry to see Tn lose I was in Tn the last 2 days. Either there are few Vols fans or they were gracious and not clubbing my UC hat.
5. Sam Brunnell is a top talent, and a new to big time basketball Freshman. She looked like a deer in headlights for much of the game and the Flop MM taught her needs practice it didn't work for her---OR the ND mystic of never fouling , while fouling, is wearing thin with Ref.
Sam Brunnel is not to be discounted. She will show her stuff before the year is done. My wife as a child was a "little men" believer. MM's "little men" apparently have taken a vacation from the ND WCBB team.
6. As always, an analysis I enjoyed. Well thought out. You are right UC's 8-0 is as impressive as any in the past 10 years. To me Geno is doing more with less.
 
huskyd said:
I take no pleasure in the current state of ND wcbb. In fact, I am sad to see how a once great program has fallen on such hard times. I have been called a "hater" of Irish bb, but I am no hater. I was raised in a religious family in which hate was not permitted. Only love was allowed. So let me say to ND that I love you, and I pray for you every day (at least). However, I have no choice but to state unequivocally that your team really stinks.
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I, a once NB BB fan, and a "liker" of ND women now say this: The season is YOUNG. MM's team is YOUNG. There is TALENT on that team. With her coaching staff and MM's experience I don't believe the team in March will look like today's team. MM has made me such a believer in the Nd mYSTIQUE I wince before each game with her ND team. I enjoy UC beating them but I don't like UC playing them (no logic there huh?)
 
For the first half, I was, if not holding my breath, feeling pretty tense, waiting for ND to come back. Skipped Chat so I could concentrate on the game. Felt more relaxed as UConn pulled away in the second half, even when UConn's intensity would falter, especially in Q4. At some point I must have realized unconsciously that this was not the ND of previous years.

UConn offense was very good -- passing and patience improving, but tapered off as the score difference widened; I thought they might not reach 80. ND defense didn't seem to be very good, but they seemed to be more disruptive later in the game. UConn defense -- I guess it was good (look at the score!), but ND shots were not falling, especially in the first half. Arguably UConn 3 pt defense kept leaving shooters open, but ND couldn't hit. (Was watching Oregon shooters before the UConn game raining 3s on South Dakota)

Really nice to see CD back in the saddle. Her timing was a little off, understandably, especially layups.

Olivia appears to have made only one penalty early in the game so she didn't have to be tentative. It seemed to me she made more blocks than the box score indicated. Still missing a lot of close up shots, but since ND players were relatively short -- their one big had an injury during the game -- her chances increased, and she scored a lot more than the previous game; glad she was aggressive. I was surprised at the box score for her FTs, 4/7. Her improvement in FT percentage last year seemed to have retrogressed this year in some games, but that wasn't too bad -- ESPN sometimes cuts away from FT for some reason and I mostly recall the misses. Still, if the other team is fouling at the end of a close game, she wouldn't be my first choice. ND team FTs were worse.

CW did some tough layups but played more support than standout. Kyla and Molly not quite as good as Seton Hall, but continued to be aggressive; fine layup by Molly. They did feature more in the not so good Q4 was my impression. Mak and Griffin did not make a strong impression, and Evelyn got a few short minutes. Was Mak supposed to take the 3 at the end of the game w/37 sec. left? Different expectations in Poland play?

Not as exciting as Seton Hall, oddly enough. I felt bad for the ND players; I'm sure they were hoping to play better than they did with the rivalry and all.
 
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@TheFarmFan, perhaps Sniezek's best offensive scoring game of her career? :D

I agree, it wasn't as exciting given the the lop-sided score and ND's record, it didn't feel like a true rivalry game.

Megan has been utterly spectacular in every facet this year. I loved hearing Christyn's story about why she likes to take it out on Notre Dame.
 
huskeynut said:
Well, I don't care what MM says or does. ND is clearly less talented than past years. Its going to take some time for ND to rise again. Good recruiting class next year but so do we. Could be three years before ND returns to be ND. And anytime we beat down ND is a good day!

As to us, very good 1st half. Good ball movement, rebounding and defense. Second half, not so good at times. Liv was a monster down low another double/ double. She is improving game by game. Megan quietly destroys teams. ND didn't even try to guard her at times. Meg stood there with the ball, nobody challenged her and she calmly drops a 3. Great to see Crystal back ad looking healthy. Very aggressive on the boards - relentless.
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This year, Megan reminds me of Kobi Bryant. She comes down the court, and can get anything she wants anytime she wants, from wherever she wants (just like Kobe did), and no one can stop her. Smooth and effortless. Her shots are falling and she knows it!! ;)

One other thing no one has mentioned so far......ONO only had 1 foul today. She picked it up on the first defensive play of the game. However, she was able to stay on the floor and be a force in the game. She scored a career high 16 points along with 10 rebounds for her 4th double-double of the season. Geno smartly took her out with 57 secs left in the second quarter so she wouldn't pick up a cheap foul going into the break. She realized during the Seton Hall game that she can’t help her team from the bench.

Hopefully she has learned her lesson about fouling and learning how to pick her battles (when to attempt to block a shot, and when to let it go and not commit a cheap, but very valuable foul). :rolleyes:

After 8 games, we’re convinced that this is a different team without ONO on the floor. Be reminded of all the blocks she had, and the second thoughts she caused ND players to have about coming into the lane. ND had no answer for her. She’s becoming money on the offensive block, and UConn is cashing in.

I loved the moves she made in this game after receiving the entry pass. A hard/quick spin to the right, and go up strong. Come tournament time, she’ll be able to do that move without thinking about it. She’s going to be unstoppable. ONO will play a huge role in whatever success UConn has this year.
 
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BroadwayVa said:
A stranger in our midst! Thankfully you are posting! Muffet has rarely, IF EVER, been gracious in a loss. I don't know If i would be but professionals are expected to act professionally.
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Muffet is one of the great coaches out there. This is a highly unusual season. She has been gracious in a loss. I believe it was in either the final or semi-final game against Breanna Stewart when she went over to Coach Geno after the game and said she thought they were playing San Antanio (we were so good).

It's one down season. Coach Geno has singled her out as his biggest rival among coaches.

So let's give her and Notre Dame the respect they're due as a great coach and program....and enjoy the big win.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Muffet is one of the great coaches out there. This is a highly unusual season. She has been gracious in a loss. I believe it was in either the final or semi-final game against Breanna Stewart when she went over to Coach Geno after the game and said she thought they were playing San Antanio (we were so good).

It's one down season. Coach Geno has singled her out as his biggest rival among coaches.

So let's give her and Notre Dame the respect they're due as a great coach and program....and enjoy the big win.
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Wet Blanket!
 
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