NCAA released its report on Louisville

[UConnNick]

This whole mess is laughable. The school is nothing but an overgrown community college. Over half the student body is from Jefferson Co., which includes the city of Louisville. That basically means at least half or more of the entire student population is likely still living at home with mommy and daddy. It's a commuter school and a joke academically.

With the arrogance that's on display coming from the school and athletic administrations, I'll predict we're looking at SMU Part II. This school has never played by any rules and will continue to flaunt every NCAA rulebook violation, despite the currently imposed four year probationary period. Just as in the SMU case, these people never learn any lessons. Even at Baylor they eventually fired most everybody, including the top school administrators. People deserve to get fired for what has happened. Louisville just laughs and tomorrow it will be business as usual there, with all the same people in charge. They'll just do a much better job of keeping everything going on quiet. They'll polish up their act a bit, but in the end, they're going to go right on doing what they've been doing for several decades. Sooner or later the NCAA will be back investigating another scandal, and it will likely happen while they're still on probation.

You really have to wonder what Swofford and the other ACC schools are thinking now about their fateful decision to let this garbage dump of a school into their vaunted conference.

 

[Hi-Low]

You really have to wonder what Swofford and the other ACC schools are thinking now about their fateful decision to let this garbage dump of a school into their vaunted conference.

Politics aside, this clown had some influence in the ACC picking L'ville over UConn....Mitch McConnell — College of Arts & Sciences

 

[LStudfellow]

This whole mess is laughable. The school is nothing but an overgrown community college. Over half the student body is from Jefferson Co., which includes the city of Louisville. That basically means at least half or more of the entire student population is likely still living at home with mommy and daddy. It's a commuter school and a joke academically.

With the arrogance that's on display coming from the school and athletic administrations, I'll predict we're looking at SMU Part II. This school has never played by any rules and will continue to flaunt every NCAA rulebook violation, despite the currently imposed four year probationary period. Just as in the SMU case, these people never learn any lessons. Even at Baylor they eventually fired most everybody, including the top school administrators. People deserve to get fired for what has happened. Louisville just laughs and tomorrow it will be business as usual there, with all the same people in charge. They'll just do a much better job of keeping everything going on quiet. They'll polish up their act a bit, but in the end, they're going to go right on doing what they've been doing for several decades. Sooner or later the NCAA will be back investigating another scandal, and it will likely happen while they're still on probation.

You really have to wonder what Swofford and the other ACC schools are thinking now about their fateful decision to let this garbage dump of a school into their vaunted conference.

The honest, sobering truth is... all Swofford and his buddies at Florida St. and Clemson care about is the following:

Louisville FOOTBALL: pre-season Top 10-12 ranking, returning Heisman Trophy winner, returning scum bag of a head coach (he is great at coaching, but definitely not any other part of being a role model)

Louisville BASKETBALL: pre-season Top 5-7 ranking, and that was before 5* recruit Brian Bowen signed on. They might be vacating the 2013 National Championship? Boo hoo. Pitino suspended for 5 games? What a joke. No extra post season ban? They will have a great shot at being in the Final 4 next year.... kinda like their fellow conference member (UNC) who was in the National Title game the last 2 years, winning it this year despite the worst scandal in major college sports since the payoffs at SMU lead to the death penalty for their football program.

Louisville BASEBALL: Top 5, and in the College World Series

The truth is: Swofford and his cronies all think that choosing Louisville was the right choice then, and they would double down on that choice now. That is the world in which we live. It is disgusting.

 

[temery]

Breaking actual laws is far less important to the NCAA than punishing a school that gives players the grades they deserve and don't meet an arbitrary gpa and graduation rate. Even academic fraud is less important than holding players accountable for poor grades.

Got it.

 

[temery]

Do conferences have provisions they can use to toss a member?

 

[mauconnfan]

If they're allowed to play in the post season next year then it means very little. Can't believe Ricky is crying about it, he may now believe his own lie as to not knowing what was happening.

 

[KingAG]

Your're wrong when they are minors. Its against the law

 

[Edward Sargent]

So now we know how you got the plum job of BY moderator!!

 

[temery]

So now we know how you got the plum job of BY moderator!!

Didn't know recruits were involved.

 

[David 76]

Th e positive in vacating wins is that it addresses the people involved with the violation instead of kids who arrived years later. Problem with it is, is it a meaningful consequence?

 

[A10 fan]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

 

[djct1999]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

Well in that case, I suppose it's ok then for Pitino to go ahead and put on that all white suit of his.

 

[djct1999]

The honest, sobering truth is... all Swofford and his buddies at Florida St. and Clemson care about is the following:

Louisville FOOTBALL: pre-season Top 10-12 ranking, returning Heisman Trophy winner, returning scum bag of a head coach (he is great at coaching, but definitely not any other part of being a role model)

Louisville BASKETBALL: pre-season Top 5-7 ranking, and that was before 5* recruit Brian Bowen signed on. They might be vacating the 2013 National Championship? Boo hoo. Pitino suspended for 5 games? What a joke. No extra post season ban? They will have a great shot at being in the Final 4 next year.... kinda like their fellow conference member (UNC) who was in the National Title game the last 2 years, winning it this year despite the worst scandal in major college sports since the payoffs at SMU lead to the death penalty for their football program.

Louisville BASEBALL: Top 5, and in the College World Series

The truth is: Swofford and his cronies all think that choosing Louisville was the right choice then, and they would double down on that choice now. That is the world in which we live. It is disgusting.

Then they are terribly misguided. On the field relevance is less important than off the field market share. When the big 10 laps the acc network and the revenue gap widens, only then will swofford and the acc presidents realize what a gross mistake they made. In 10 years, the NCAA champ will always be from one of two conferences, and swofford and co are on the wrong side.

 

[Dove]

Would be interesting to see a list of every student athlete that got a blow job and compare that to a list showing their current real job. Looeyville lured, used and spit out these kids to further fat cats. (Okay, many schools do) but the strippers/sex/booze hotel is just "repugnant".

Jurich Train rolls on.

 

[Vowelguy]

Amusing reading some online comments. The main rebuttal seems to not be "we got screwed," but "what about UNC?"

 

[Dove]

Amusing reading some online comments. The main rebuttal seems to not be "we got screwed," but "what about UNC?"

 

[Scottzer]

I dunno - a punishment is necessary, but it's not like these kids don't get laid. If you're an elite high school level athlete, you'll get your share. It's inappropriate, and 5 games is fair, but I don't particularly want to see the title vacated.
IMHO, UNC is far worse, and they really should lose their accreditation.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I dunno - a punishment is necessary, but it's not like these kids don't get laid. If you're an elite high school level athlete, you'll get your share. It's inappropriate, and 5 games is fair, but I don't particularly want to see the title vacated.
IMHO, UNC is far worse, and they really should lose their accreditation.

The whole vacation thing has always hinged on a single factor:

If a player who was receivng or had received impermissable benefits -which invalidated their eligibility- plays in any game(s), that or those game(s) are vacated.

Was that the case with the 2013 team? Sure seems like it

 

[Chief00]

Would be interesting to see a list of every student athlete that got a blow job and compare that to a list showing their current real job. Looeyville lured, used and spit out these kids to further fat cats. (Okay, many schools do) but the strippers/sex/booze hotel is just "repugnant".

Jurich Train rolls on.

Yeah, my detest of Pitino is well documented, but a cautionary note about
too much indignation! I think the difference is they paid for someone to do the stuff rather than just out of school spirit.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

State ages of consent are generally meaningless.

 

[Chief00]

This comes through circle back to my buddy Clyde. Louisville is arguing that two $200 payments to a stripper were minimal; if so what about a $10 BJ in Hartford's North end? Essentially a life time ban from coaching vs a 4 game suspension. A real injustice.

 

[CL82]

Well in that case, I suppose it's ok then for Pitino to go ahead and put on that all white suit of his.

 

[John]

Yeah, my detest of Pitino is well documented, but a cautionary note about
too much indignation! I think the difference is they paid for someone to do the stuff rather than just out of school spirit.

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[hoopsknowitall]

Louisville really messed up in not hiring Clyde to testify the "going rate" for certain things was ten bucks, pre inflation adjusted of course. Would have really strengthened their impermissible benefits case with the NCAA...

 

[UConnNick]

Do conferences have provisions they can use to toss a member?

It's very likely that they all do. The Big East tossed Temple out of the football conference after the 2004 season due to abysmal attendance and play on the field, since they were scarfing up Big East bowl money every year while contributing zero. That seems like a pretty loose reason for expulsion, so the contracts must have been pretty liberal with the reasons for dumping a school. Temple didn't object or sue the conference, so it was probably justified within the contractual provisions.

UMASS got bounced by the MAC football conference a couple of years back because they had an apparent rule whereby they could force a school to join the conference for all sports, or they at least tried to force it. UMASS declined because they wanted to keep their Olympic sports in the A-10.

 

[Chief00]

Louisville really messed up in not hiring Clyde to testify the "going rate" for certain things was ten bucks, pre inflation adjusted of course. Would have really strengthened their impermissible benefits case with the NCAA...

That's another injustice in the Clyde deal; $10 wasn't the going rate rather it was an undercover police woman offering a ridiculously low BJ price to entrap Clyde. Basically, it was a free BJ offer - the $10 was just to make it a crime.

 

[UConnNick]

The honest, sobering truth is... all Swofford and his buddies at Florida St. and Clemson care about is the following:

Louisville FOOTBALL: pre-season Top 10-12 ranking, returning Heisman Trophy winner, returning scum bag of a head coach (he is great at coaching, but definitely not any other part of being a role model)

Louisville BASKETBALL: pre-season Top 5-7 ranking, and that was before 5* recruit Brian Bowen signed on. They might be vacating the 2013 National Championship? Boo hoo. Pitino suspended for 5 games? What a joke. No extra post season ban? They will have a great shot at being in the Final 4 next year.... kinda like their fellow conference member (UNC) who was in the National Title game the last 2 years, winning it this year despite the worst scandal in major college sports since the payoffs at SMU lead to the death penalty for their football program.

Louisville BASEBALL: Top 5, and in the College World Series

The truth is: Swofford and his cronies all think that choosing Louisville was the right choice then, and they would double down on that choice now. That is the world in which we live. It is disgusting.

Sad, but probably true. You would at least like to think they're all holding their noses from the stench, but probably not. Money is all that matters to these university presidents and the NCAA.

 

[UConnNick]

If they're allowed to play in the post season next year then it means very little. Can't believe Ricky is crying about it, he may now believe his own lie as to not knowing what was happening.

Wait just a doggone minute, here! He can't be expected to know what's going on between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. every day of the year. He's gotta sleep! LOL

Calhoun should have used that excuse. It's a classic. From now on, I think we should call it the "Asleep at the Wheel Defense."

 

[ctchamps]

UConn belongs to the AAC. The AAC just lost half their men's bb championships.

ONCE AGAIN THE NCAA HITS UCONN!

Righteous indignation over sex to athletes but no concern about screwing UConn.

 

[August_West]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

Cool story. Let me buy a hooker for your teen son