NCAA released its report on Louisville

[A10 fan]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

 

[djct1999]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

Well in that case, I suppose it's ok then for Pitino to go ahead and put on that all white suit of his.

 

[djct1999]

The honest, sobering truth is... all Swofford and his buddies at Florida St. and Clemson care about is the following:

Louisville FOOTBALL: pre-season Top 10-12 ranking, returning Heisman Trophy winner, returning scum bag of a head coach (he is great at coaching, but definitely not any other part of being a role model)

Louisville BASKETBALL: pre-season Top 5-7 ranking, and that was before 5* recruit Brian Bowen signed on. They might be vacating the 2013 National Championship? Boo hoo. Pitino suspended for 5 games? What a joke. No extra post season ban? They will have a great shot at being in the Final 4 next year.... kinda like their fellow conference member (UNC) who was in the National Title game the last 2 years, winning it this year despite the worst scandal in major college sports since the payoffs at SMU lead to the death penalty for their football program.

Louisville BASEBALL: Top 5, and in the College World Series

The truth is: Swofford and his cronies all think that choosing Louisville was the right choice then, and they would double down on that choice now. That is the world in which we live. It is disgusting.

Then they are terribly misguided. On the field relevance is less important than off the field market share. When the big 10 laps the acc network and the revenue gap widens, only then will swofford and the acc presidents realize what a gross mistake they made. In 10 years, the NCAA champ will always be from one of two conferences, and swofford and co are on the wrong side.

 

[Dove]

Would be interesting to see a list of every student athlete that got a blow job and compare that to a list showing their current real job. Looeyville lured, used and spit out these kids to further fat cats. (Okay, many schools do) but the strippers/sex/booze hotel is just "repugnant".

Jurich Train rolls on.

 

[Vowelguy]

Amusing reading some online comments. The main rebuttal seems to not be "we got screwed," but "what about UNC?"

 

[Dove]

Amusing reading some online comments. The main rebuttal seems to not be "we got screwed," but "what about UNC?"

 

[Scottzer]

I dunno - a punishment is necessary, but it's not like these kids don't get laid. If you're an elite high school level athlete, you'll get your share. It's inappropriate, and 5 games is fair, but I don't particularly want to see the title vacated.
IMHO, UNC is far worse, and they really should lose their accreditation.

 

[Rocktheworld]

I dunno - a punishment is necessary, but it's not like these kids don't get laid. If you're an elite high school level athlete, you'll get your share. It's inappropriate, and 5 games is fair, but I don't particularly want to see the title vacated.
IMHO, UNC is far worse, and they really should lose their accreditation.

The whole vacation thing has always hinged on a single factor:

If a player who was receivng or had received impermissable benefits -which invalidated their eligibility- plays in any game(s), that or those game(s) are vacated.

Was that the case with the 2013 team? Sure seems like it

 

[Chief00]

Would be interesting to see a list of every student athlete that got a blow job and compare that to a list showing their current real job. Looeyville lured, used and spit out these kids to further fat cats. (Okay, many schools do) but the strippers/sex/booze hotel is just "repugnant".

Jurich Train rolls on.

Yeah, my detest of Pitino is well documented, but a cautionary note about
too much indignation! I think the difference is they paid for someone to do the stuff rather than just out of school spirit.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

State ages of consent are generally meaningless.

 

[Chief00]

This comes through circle back to my buddy Clyde. Louisville is arguing that two $200 payments to a stripper were minimal; if so what about a $10 BJ in Hartford's North end? Essentially a life time ban from coaching vs a 4 game suspension. A real injustice.

 

[CL82]

Well in that case, I suppose it's ok then for Pitino to go ahead and put on that all white suit of his.

 

[John]

Yeah, my detest of Pitino is well documented, but a cautionary note about
too much indignation! I think the difference is they paid for someone to do the stuff rather than just out of school spirit.

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[hoopsknowitall]

Louisville really messed up in not hiring Clyde to testify the "going rate" for certain things was ten bucks, pre inflation adjusted of course. Would have really strengthened their impermissible benefits case with the NCAA...

 

[UConnNick]

Do conferences have provisions they can use to toss a member?

It's very likely that they all do. The Big East tossed Temple out of the football conference after the 2004 season due to abysmal attendance and play on the field, since they were scarfing up Big East bowl money every year while contributing zero. That seems like a pretty loose reason for expulsion, so the contracts must have been pretty liberal with the reasons for dumping a school. Temple didn't object or sue the conference, so it was probably justified within the contractual provisions.

UMASS got bounced by the MAC football conference a couple of years back because they had an apparent rule whereby they could force a school to join the conference for all sports, or they at least tried to force it. UMASS declined because they wanted to keep their Olympic sports in the A-10.

 

[Chief00]

Louisville really messed up in not hiring Clyde to testify the "going rate" for certain things was ten bucks, pre inflation adjusted of course. Would have really strengthened their impermissible benefits case with the NCAA...

That's another injustice in the Clyde deal; $10 wasn't the going rate rather it was an undercover police woman offering a ridiculously low BJ price to entrap Clyde. Basically, it was a free BJ offer - the $10 was just to make it a crime.

 

[UConnNick]

The honest, sobering truth is... all Swofford and his buddies at Florida St. and Clemson care about is the following:

Louisville FOOTBALL: pre-season Top 10-12 ranking, returning Heisman Trophy winner, returning scum bag of a head coach (he is great at coaching, but definitely not any other part of being a role model)

Louisville BASKETBALL: pre-season Top 5-7 ranking, and that was before 5* recruit Brian Bowen signed on. They might be vacating the 2013 National Championship? Boo hoo. Pitino suspended for 5 games? What a joke. No extra post season ban? They will have a great shot at being in the Final 4 next year.... kinda like their fellow conference member (UNC) who was in the National Title game the last 2 years, winning it this year despite the worst scandal in major college sports since the payoffs at SMU lead to the death penalty for their football program.

Louisville BASEBALL: Top 5, and in the College World Series

The truth is: Swofford and his cronies all think that choosing Louisville was the right choice then, and they would double down on that choice now. That is the world in which we live. It is disgusting.

Sad, but probably true. You would at least like to think they're all holding their noses from the stench, but probably not. Money is all that matters to these university presidents and the NCAA.

 

[UConnNick]

If they're allowed to play in the post season next year then it means very little. Can't believe Ricky is crying about it, he may now believe his own lie as to not knowing what was happening.

Wait just a doggone minute, here! He can't be expected to know what's going on between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. every day of the year. He's gotta sleep! LOL

Calhoun should have used that excuse. It's a classic. From now on, I think we should call it the "Asleep at the Wheel Defense."

 

[ctchamps]

UConn belongs to the AAC. The AAC just lost half their men's bb championships.

ONCE AGAIN THE NCAA HITS UCONN!

Righteous indignation over sex to athletes but no concern about screwing UConn.

 

[August_West]

Just so you know, the age of consent in Kentucky is 16, as it is in Connecticut, most of the US, and all of Canada. Nine states have it at 18, and eight have it at 17.

Cool story. Let me buy a hooker for your teen son

 

[UConnNick]

Then they are terribly misguided. On the field relevance is less important than off the field market share. When the big 10 laps the acc network and the revenue gap widens, only then will swofford and the acc presidents realize what a gross mistake they made. In 10 years, the NCAA champ will always be from one of two conferences, and swofford and co are on the wrong side.

You make an excellent point, djct. The PR hit the ACC will take wasn't worth the short term benefit of having a football program that was going to rake in some major bowl revenue for the conference. At the time the ACC made their decision, it's true we were having a down period in football, but our track record for the program overall was very positive. How many other schools can claim they became rather instantly competitive, achieved a BCS national ranking within the first five seasons, and went to a BCS bowl within the first eight seasons of the programs full scale DI-A membership? And we don't exactly have a bad track record for turning things around, given enough time. We do now with the football program, but we didn't back then. ACC membership would have tremendously improved our ability to recruit, and in no time we'd have likely turned a corner toward a swift upward trajectory. Couple that with all the financial advantages of getting a stranglehold on the northeastern US market and freezing out the Big 10, including a presence in the NYC metro market. There also would have been the obvious benefit of making BS College play us again as a conference opponent, the local interest that rivalry would have generated, the superior academics, and shared vision with many of the ACC schools. They should have had the balls to tell BS College, Clemson and Florida State to pound sand. As time has proven, Clemson and Florida State weren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[temery]

State ages of consent are generally meaningless.

Chris Hansen would likely disagree.

 

[hoopsknowitall]

Whenever I hear the phrase "asleep at the wheel" it brings back to the time when Cinci had three of their basketball coaches arrested for dui's within the space of around a year. One of them Keith Legree actually got a jury to believe a narcolepsy defense after they found him asleep at the wheel at a stop sign unfortunately that defense didn't work again a year later when he got busted for dui again. He either plead out that time or used the Lawrence Taylor bad fish defense I can't remember...

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Chris Hansen would likely disagree.

That's what I'm saying. Federal law is still 18.

 

[dennismenace]

Well in that case, I suppose it's ok then for Pitino to go ahead and put on that all white suit of his.

Just like on: The Loveboat