NCAA announcing UNC penalties on Friday

[UconnFanNVa]

I think some of you are giving the NCAA way to much credit. They believe they are above reproach and will find a reason for sweeping this one away. Then they will be criticized and not care.

I'm probably one of them. I'm hoping the FBI scares them and they plan on handing out a death sentence or 2. So obviously UNC wont get that. But I'm hoping they have to at least appear to have some morals and values while the spotlight is on them. Could be completely wrong though. We shall see soon.

 

[the Q]

I'm probably one of them. I'm hoping the FBI scares them and they plan on handing out a death sentence or 2. So obviously UNC wont get that. But I'm hoping they have to at least appear to have some morals and values while the spotlight is on them. Could be completely wrong though. We shall see soon.

If this isnt death penalty worthy then nothing is. If this wasn't unc everyone would be expecting the death penalty. This isn't a one time payment to a player to be on campus for 1-2 years.

This is 20 years of intensely coordinated cheating across multiple sports to preserve eleigibilty for s massive amount of "student athletes."

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

Anything short of banners taken down and mass scholarship reductions and a tourney ban or two would be a joke

 

[The Funster]

They should come down hard: 2 year post season ban, reduced schollies for 5 years and loss of wins for all implicated sports. The NCAA won't do it and even if it did the sanctions will be tied up in courts for years. UNC will get a slap on the wrist, look contrite and it will be over.

 

[Hi-Low]

No more "Taco Tuesday's"..................for 2 years.

 

[Dogdeacon]

There is just no known universe where the NCAA gives the purgatory penalty (its not death, see SMU etc...) to a UNC. Even a vacating of wins/titles for a school like UNC would be a massive stain and I don't see it happening, ever.

A one-year ban is possible I think given the current hyper-scrutiny and I take a kind of middle position that they have to do something to show some teeth while being very careful not to do anything that sets a life jeopardizing precedent for their golden geese.

Over under is 10-game coaching ban and loss of scholarships for 1-3 years.

 

[awfuldan]

They should come down hard: 2 year post season ban, reduced schollies for 5 years and loss of wins for all implicated sports. The NCAA won't do it and even if it did the sanctions will be tied up in courts for years. UNC will get a slap on the wrist, look contrite and it will be over.

This is along the lines of what I was thinking. Who knows what will actually happen though?

Hopefully the NCAA lets all of the current UNC players transfer out without sitting. They really screwed the SMU players (especially the seniors) a couple years back when they levied a post-season ban after the school year had already started.

 

[GemParty]

If the penalty is less damaging than UConn's APR, it's laughable. They are a joke.

 

[Bagel&Cheese]

In light of the recent scandal revelations, and with the NCAA now clearly in the enforcement spotlight, I believe we'll see them levy significant sanctions against UNC. They will need to do this in order to justify their continued existence. If not, they will only be asking congress to step into the oversight quagmire the NCAA has helped create and begin the process of restructuring it.

I hope you are correct that they will come down hard on UNC but I have a gut feeling it will only be a slap on the wrist...

 

[StoweD210]

Considering that the announcement will part of the Friday afternoon news dump, I'm not expecting much in the way of penalties. The NCAA wants this story to go away.

 

[upstater]

The NCAA will decide it isn’t fair to punish current players for violations they didn’t commit (the upstater conundrum) so they will take no action on future penalties. However, all UNC teams between 1990 and 2014 with be banned from any future NCAA tournaments and/or bowl games.

All current UNC players committed to the school AFTER the scandal was made public.

 

[ctchamps]

Friday release makes me think they will go light and are using the weekend for cover. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[CL82]

If the penalty is less damaging than UConn's APR, it's laughable. They are a joke.

I'm guessing it will be pretty much the same. In essence it will be saying that cheating makes sense since The punishment won't be any more severe than honestly reporting bad scores.

As long as we are talking about UConn's postseason ban let's keep in mind that the only reason Connecticut receive the band was because the NCAA made changes to the penalty structure and applied it to Connecticut retroactively.

 

[ctchamps]

Considering that the announcement will be a Friday afternoon news dump, I'm not expecting much.

Beat me my a moment. Kitten kept jumping on my keyboard.

 

[GemParty]

Roy's laughing at all the fans, other schools, & the NCAA. He nabbed a 5* player this week with no fear of missing a beat in hoops.

 

[UconnFanNVa]

If this isnt death penalty worthy then nothing is. If this wasn't unc everyone would be expecting the death penalty. This isn't a one time payment to a player to be on campus for 1-2 years.

This is 20 years of intensely coordinated cheating across multiple sports to preserve eleigibilty for s massive amount of "student athletes."

I agree with you.. but the FBI didnt blow that story and make the NCAA look stupid. They made themselves look stupid on that one all on their own. We'll see what happens. I hope they do get the death penalty and a whole lot of wins vacated. I doubt they treat them as harsh as say Louisville though. What do I know though? I'm just speculating. Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow.

 

[the Q]

I agree with you.. but the FBI didnt blow that story and make the NCAA look stupid. They made themselves look stupid on that one all on their own. We'll see what happens. I hope they do get the death penalty and a whole lot of wins vacated. I doubt they treat them as harsh as say Louisville though. What do I know though? I'm just speculating. Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow.

yeah, I'm just saying what they did is absolutely DP worthy.

Whether the NCAA actually takes down one of their blue bloods (who also had a separate NCAA issue about 5-7 years ago, right?) is another thing.

 

[Palatine]

The players who have already left UNC will be suspended for the first game.

 

[2Infinity]

Considering that the announcement will part of the Friday afternoon news dump, I'm not expecting much in the way of penalties. The NCAA wants this story to go away.

Friday release makes me think they will go light and are using the weekend for cover. Hope I'm wrong.

Possibly...though it could be just the opposite. Think of the wall-to-wall football coverage over the weekend giving their ruling lots of airtime and discussion. Could be an ideal scenario for them to receive a lot of favorable reaction and publicity regarding their tough penalty.

 

[dennismenace]

Surprised it took so long.

They had to check with the sneaker people who were busy.

 

[ctchamps]

Possibly...though it could be just the opposite. Think of the wall-to-wall football coverage over the weekend giving their ruling lots of airtime and discussion. Could be an ideal scenario for them to receive a lot of favorable reaction and publicity regarding their tough penalty.

Fishy heard that the NCAA is angry with UNC with all the delays so I'm keeping my hopes up.

 

[ctchamps]

This is along the lines of what I was thinking. Who knows what will actually happen though?

Hopefully the NCAA lets all of the current UNC players transfer out without sitting. They really screwed the SMU players (especially the seniors) a couple years back when they levied a post-season ban after the school year had already started.

This thing has been dragging on for such a long time those players had to know that a ruling would come down at some point. Normally I'm sympathetic to the players but in this case making it hard for those players to leave will send a message to recruits to avoid universities who are being viewed by the NCAA for infractions.

Given the sneaker situation I'm hoping they are tough on UNC players.

 

[Padutch5]

Friday release makes me think they will go light and are using the weekend for cover. Hope I'm wrong.

Hadn’t thought about that. Makes sense.
The two wild cards here are the FBI investigation and the ncaa faculty and presidents. With the investigation the NCAA is at serious risk of losing its control over the lucrative NCAA pie.
I don’t think you can under estimate the outrage among presidents and faculty over the academic scandal. The UNC awarding of credits without doing the work has created outrage whereas the Louisville prostitute scandal was met with a yawn .

 

[ctchamps]

Hadn’t thought about that. Makes sense.
The two wild cards here are the FBI investigation and the ncaa faculty and presidents. With the investigation the NCAA is at serious risk of losing its control over the lucrative NCAA pie.
I don’t think you can under estimate the outrage among presidents and faculty over the academic scandal. The UNC awarding of credits without doing the work has created outrage whereas the Louisville prostitute scandal was met with a yawn .

Many ways of looking at this. Usually Friday announcements are made to reduce public scrutiny, but as 2infinity points out, in the sports world, the audience is more prevalent on weekends. So an NCAA announcement could get more attention with regards to people interested in these events.

In addition to the FBI investigation you would think they would come down harder on UNC than the universities who received penalties with the APR failures just out of fear those universities would sue the NCAA.

As they say we'll soon find out. No matter how it plays out the punishment should give us a distraction until the season starts.

 

[Vuce]

I am betting that whatever they do it will not affect current players. They will say something like "the current student athletes had nothing to do with the previous decades long fake classes so we felt it would not be prudent to punish these players....". Completely ignoring what they did to our Hungry Huskies