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Dom Amore (@AmoreCourant)
12/29/12, 5:23 PM
Warde Manuel - end of academic term and good grades was key to decision

“@KevinRDuffy: Manuel said UConn'd academic performance in the first semester played a role”

You must have turned to vomit.
 
junglehusky said:
Yes I think this is the main point of disagreement... the MBB coach isn't there just to recruit, isn't there just to win games and diagram plays, he is there to Run. The. Program. Academics and compliance not part of the job? It's in the freakin' job description (assuming the job description is like the posting for the FB coach that someone linked to after RE went to maryland). The MBB head coach is the leader, and the leader is responsible for the whole program. No excuses.
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its all fine and jolly to have this type of talk in the contract and job descriptions but u dont live in the real world if u think coach k or roy or izzo etc give 2 about a report card. they each have 30 ppl under them in the ath dept whose sole jobs are to keep those players gradesa nd shit in check. we had only a few and hathaway us over letting it get out of hand. 2 of the ppl who had those jobs were bad apples who viewded the job as a playful time with players as much as a serious part of the program. thats us. no matter how much iu want to make a bball coach job out to be everything good in college sports, its not. its a business and he is here to win games and ships. with ko we also have the family dynamic which is great also. school does not factor into it past media and talk to make sure u cover yourself. running the program is all talk bs. is he the leader? sure but school work comes right after play station time on his list of things 2 handle, which is its not on the list. the closest he gets to grades type shit is he calls in the advisors once a week to have the 30 minute meeting and make sure each kid is doing what he has to do. thats it.
 
Maybe KO isn't breaking down polynomials or the krebs cycle or whatever... but he is responsible for the tutors and advisors that do. I'm sure he'd be the first to say that, even if you think it's a joke.
 
If the APR thing is a big deal then put a clause in Ollie's original contract. That way you don't lose recruits and you maintain the ability to get rid of Ollie if he doesn't live up to expectations. It's over now, so whatever, but count me among those who think that Manuel handled this extremely poorly. Seemed pretty transparent that he was waiting on this so that he could claim that it was he, and not Jim Calhoun, who decided that Kevin Ollie should be the next coach.
 
welp my rants are done. warde the pooch big time but i'm gald ko finally has a contract in the end. i just dont want ppl here to think things are all good now becuase they are not. ppl seem to missing the overall boat of issues.

raise of hands, who here would not have wanted the following:
hired ko to a 3 year deal right away with a low buyout after year 2, plan to redo the contract if all is well after year 2 to a nice 5 year or w/e long term one. this brings stabiulity and a easy out for warde. saves face and all the other issues. u can even work apr issue into it back then. think of all the nonsense it would have prevented. media heads ripping uconn, players in the emdia etc etc. one less fire. plus doing this u give ko a much less $$ havey contract. now take that $ and buyout the fball staff(p and gdl). name brown HC 8 games in instead of letting him walk to bc or hire a new staff all togetehr or w/e u wish, just buyout p and g with the $ saved form ko deal shortterm wise. now u have a new vision in fball instea dof the crap we have now.

honestly, considering everything going on from more crappy marketing to CR to blah blah blah how could u say no to this approach? it didn't take me long to think it up and im a illerate, drunk stupid sob who is here only to piss off uconn fans it seems who are short becuase everything goes over there dam heads. every 10 or so posters here i find 1 who gets it and ses the true colors in this who dragged out process, i thank god u few ppl exist.

unfuckingreal

go huskies, beat the shit out of trees and other huskies and warde. #B1GHARDER
 
Just so it's on the record again, I do agree that firing PP and promoting Brown would have been a worthwhile plan for the FB side of things, and now that Brown is gone we're worse off.
 
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I know everyone wants to destroy Manual for the delay, but I'm actually fine with it. If Warde had immediately given KO an extension after the Mich St. game and we had gone on to be 5-5 and looked tty, Warde would have looked like a fool. Had KO done the job on the court but the players didn't do their part in the classroom, Warde would have looked like a fool. Instead, he waited till all the i's were dotted and t's crossed and gave him the extension. Warde still looks like a fool to many of us, but to the general public he's a fool who made sure that KO was the right guy both on and off the court and it shows that he did his due diligence. It may have caused us to lose a recruit or two (although none were truly impact guys --> we were never getting Parker), but he (and the general public) knows that KO can run a program on and off the court. Now, lets see if recruits like KO as much as we all surmised and see if he can build us into a championship contender wherever we end up in the future.
 
aceboon said:
Don't understand this thread. We've had thread after thread pleading for WM to step up and give KO his deal, now he's got a very lucrative 5 year deal that should give the program stability and some of ya'll are still going nuts. I wanted KO signed long term from jump but I understood WM's position on holding out. I don't think the affect on recruiting was that substantial, we were not in great position for any bigs and that is where the team needs the most help anyway. Guys like XRM(who i don't think was coming anyway) and Austin play the same position as guys we have now who are expected to be back, they are not make or break recruits and we are in position to get elite guys at those positions in '14. The program is in good hands with KO in charge, no use in arguing about the events of the past few months, lets move forward.
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It's easy to understand this thread. Once someone on this board becomes disliked, everything they do has to be evil with no exceptions. At times the Boneyard has the depth of a two page fairy tale.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
all of his excuses for waiting were exactly all the bs we have talked about. guys not a ****ing rock star, hes a chump. at one point he said something like he wasn't over ko's shoulder all the time he had other stuff to do. if we had a actual horde i would have jumped all over that. like what else were u doing warde? certainly not anything in marketing, football, puck or anything that ****ing matters these days. ahhhhh!!!

to his credit he didn't come out and say we waited for grades this semester becuase as i said and others have also, is a freaking asinine idea to claim that some posters here like to do. he said they were important but ot the reason or w/e. still to much for me but...he did stress academics and the arp overall which is fine considering where we are right now. i have no probelm with the apr contract langauge either, i think that was actualy the first positive idea i have sene from him media wise. but the whole thing still in the end stinks of his ego vs jc/thefamily and every other fan/alum who saw this for what it was. and for that alone i want him away from this school. when u pile on all the other things, i don't understand how ppl here are so ok with things. its disgusting.
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Dan, I have no idea what you do for a living, but I hope to God it doesn't involve managing people or a department or being responsible for an organization. Because you have absolutely no clue how that works in the real world. People don't get jobs that are vital to a department of a large university, and honestly to the image of the entire university, as well as to the ongoing lives of many young men in their care until they can demonstrate a level of competence necessary for the role. Warde handled this the way any professional manager would. If anything he was perhaps overly deferential to Calhoun, but I suspect that's because he and his boss saw the right potential qualities in Ollie.

There are huge benefits to this approach. KO earned it and wasn't a nepotistic hire. His credibility is now higher as a result. He's here for five years not 2 or 3. Even with a 2-3 year initial deal, you know the coaches recruiting against him would say he was Calhoun's pick and doesn't have AD support and would be bought out or not renewed. Now there is no doubt.

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HuskyHawk said:
Dan, I have no idea what you do for a living, but I hope to God it doesn't involve managing people or a department or being responsible for an organization. Because you have absolutely no clue how that works in the real world. People don't get jobs that are vital to a department of a large university, and honestly to the image of the entire university, as well as to the ongoing lives of many young men in their care until they can demonstrate a level of competence necessary for the role. Warde handled this the way any professional manager would. If anything he was perhaps overly deferential to Calhoun, but I suspect that's because he and his boss saw the right potential qualities in Ollie.

There are huge benefits to this approach. KO earned it and wasn't a nepotistic hire. His credibility is now higher as a result. He's here for five years not 2 or 3. Even with a 2-3 year initial deal, you know the coaches recruiting against him would say he was Calhoun's pick and doesn't have AD support and would be bought out or not renewed. Now there is no doubt.

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i'm glad all is well in your uconn fairy land hawk. my job? im the president of the united states of america. i hoped on this bandwagon when kemba came down to visit and shabazz told me about the girls at uconn. i was a fan ever since. don't tell me i dont know how to manage ppl or situations, don't u just love the job i'm doing with the country the past 5 years?
 
I didn't think KO would get the extension until late January but I think he has earned it. Obviously, grades are an issue as is compliance and other issues as it should be. If grades weren't important we wouldn't suffering under a PS ban (irregardless of how abysmally retroactively applied it was).

I think given our CR position winning under KO with a squeaky clean rep will help position for the next round of movement. Perception does play a big role as we have seen.
 
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I'm trying to decide if this thread should make me hate UConn fans, o r just those on the boneyard. Except Fishy, he dope.
 
Just saw on ESPN news. 'bout time.

Now if there only was a BY pin to locate where previous players are now.
 
progrocks said:
I'm trying to decide if this thread should make me hate UConn fans, o r just those on the boneyard. Except Fishy, he dope.
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just hate me. everyone else here is a nice guy/gal.

i come here to vent and spread anger becuase fairy land is much nicer then the real world in storrs. dumpster fire continue....

heres a recap of wardes presser and why he decided now is the time to extend kos contract
 
Husky Hawk, I admire your ability to hang in there against the lunacy.You are absolutely right. Anyone who would hand the keys to their Lamberghini to a guy who has never driven in the fast lane before would be insane. They let him road test it to see how he handled the tight turns. He passed the test.
 
Nostical said:
Husky Hawk, I admire your ability to hang in there against the lunacy.You are absolutely right. Anyone who would hand the keys to their Lamberghini to a guy who has never driven in the fast lane before would be insane. They let him road test it to see how he handled the tight turns. He passed the test.
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Here here. I wrote months ago that I expected the contract to come over Christmas if things went well and that us exactly what happened. In this case, what WM did makes complete sense to me. As for PP, well, I have no clue what is up.
 
Nostical said:
Husky Hawk, I admire your ability to hang in there against the lunacy.You are absolutely right. Anyone who would hand the keys to their Lamberghini to a guy who has never driven in the fast lane before would be insane. They let him road test it to see how he handled the tight turns. He passed the test.
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I told myself I would stop commenting on it, but since you brought up my favorite dream car...

...one could argue that Warde Manual has never driven the Lamborghini and was given the keys right away, since comparing Buffalo's athletic department to UConn's is like comparing a Toyota Camry to the Lamborghini. Yet, he still got the keys right away. But man, I really love Lamborghinis! ;)
 
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Without reading this entire thread, do you feel that chubbsy ubys had some outside pressure to offer the extension?

I always thought that Ollie is stand up guy and fatso was on some sort of power trip.
 
Clothy said:
Without reading this entire thread, do you feel that chubbsy ubys had some outside pressure to offer the extension?

I always thought that Ollie is stand up guy and fatso was on some sort of power trip.
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Let me guess. You're a troll?

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Nostical said:
Husky Hawk, I admire your ability to hang in there against the lunacy.You are absolutely right. Anyone who would hand the keys to their Lamberghini to a guy who has never driven in the fast lane before would be insane. They let him road test it to see how he handled the tight turns. He passed the test.
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ok being the ast coach at a big boy school or playing 15 years in the nba isn't the fastlane? jc was out health wise over half of jc's time he was under him. who do u think killed it on the trail all that time? blaney? you are all unreal. ko was the man of the program back then. several here inclding me wrote about it seeing hin in gyms and it was obvious. before jc even fell of that dam bike several here including me were 100% ko and we wanted things to go smooth. there was thread after thread abotu him being the right guy and so much more. wtf is the fast lane? if its not playing 15 years in the nba and then coaching under a legend but also for a legend while hes hurt/sick then i'm not sure wtf the fast lane is?

i love the brad stevens crowd here for example. do u clowns know anything about him? he playing college ball at some school that up the name deapul took years ago. he then spent like 5 years working his way thru the buytler staff. back then, butler was not todays butler. he then got the hc job and sice he has turned that school into a very nice mid major program. a ton of respect for the guy and i am a fan. but where is his expierence or qualifications? you want to talk fast lane? the siena coach years ago spent years working his way up the ladder and finally got a call to like iowa or something was what he could get. fastlane my ass.

UConnDan97 said:
I told myself I would stop commenting on it, but since you brought up my favorite dream car...

...one could argue that Warde Manual has never driven the Lamborghini and was given the keys right away, since comparing Buffalo's athletic department to UConn's is like comparing a Toyota Camry to the Lamborghini. Yet, he still got the keys right away. But man, I really love Lamborghinis! ;)
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its fun when every single argument the 75% here makes gets torn apart right away isn't it? i don't know wtf happened in buffalo, but a lot of uconn fans sure love it i guess.

UConnDan97 said:
Let me guess. You're a troll?

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umass fan
 
Some of you guys are driving yourselves crazy and myself also. Let it all go , who , what , when, fault and reasons and why. It's over time to move forward starting now.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
umass fan
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Is Clothy really a UMass fan? He has a heck of a lot of posts to just be a new troll, but his response was well over the top. I'll reserve judgment...
 
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Clothy said:
Just asking, mushroom cap. It's a fair question. The 7 month contract never made sense to me. Maybe some boosters were holding out?
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I just typed that I was going to reserve judgment. You have removed my reservations...
 
Clothy said:
Just asking, mushroom cap. It's a fair question. The 7 month contract never made sense to me. Maybe some boosters were holding out?
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Just ask then and leave out the "fat" and "chubby busy" shit out.......do we care what your Howdy Doody looking AD looks like? ;)
 
hahahah yes hes a umass fan. hes been a BYer for a long time and drops in to spread cheer everyonce in a while. i have no prob with clothy. hes either full umass troll or completely fair to uconn. thats fine.
 
mauconnfan said:
Just ask then and leave out the "fat" and "chubby busy" **** out.......do we care what your Howdy Doody looking AD looks like? ;)
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You guys never made any negative reference to his appearance here? And I said chubbsy ubsy and fatso.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Is Clothy really a UMass fan? He has a heck of a lot of posts to just be a new troll, but his response was well over the top. I'll reserve judgment...
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He's a UMass fan, he comes over and goes back and forth various posters all the time. I have him blocked. It's fantastic.
 
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