As I said somewhere in this thread, there is absolutely nothing wrong with advocating for more womens coaches in college sports. But MM’s “take no prisoners” approach minimizes the significant contributions of long time WBB coaches like Wes Moore, Gary Blair and yes even Geno Auriemma, who, I will point out again, has a superior record (100%) of hiring female assistants, along with nurturing and promoting countless former players as well as female colleagues as head coaches.
I think Muffet is the better coach, eye test, mostly. Tara has more wins (and a better winning percentage) but coached 4 more years. Definitely factor in the natties as well.
Not sure?? Let me clear it up for you. You are DEFINITELY a Notre Dame fan.
Muffet's stated position is that the mere presence of men in the WBB coaching ranks is an injustice and a hindrance to the development of confident young women. She's objectively pitting the progress of women against the mere employment of male coaches.
If we evaluate them on the sum of their careers, it's a fairly close comparison:
Any mention of "Coach J" on this board will get a like from me.I suspect you are right and that a lot of her utterances originate here. She has doubled down on this particular theme and maybe she thinks it is a recruiting tool. She should have said it just once and had ND's HR Dept. all over her with an advisory written caution. Should a male ever apply to work with her and be turned down he could make her squirm some. Maybe Coach Jumper should apply for her next opening!
That wasn't my point. On the women's side they appear to be hiring who they think is best for the job, male or female, while in the men's game they are not giving women a fair chance, and only hiring men. I think this is the issue Muffett should be addressing. (And I do understand there will be those who disagree with me, that's as it should be)
The Theory is Women are "disadvantaged". The rest of the theory is that men have ruled all aspects of life for 200,000 years. The time for Women is NOW.
Do you know how stupid it is to hire only male assistants? Geno and Christine hired women. I could go into a lot of unsavory comments but the fact remains Geno has had no Team Women's College Basketball charges, comments, assertions, rumors. Being proper, looking proper, acting proper avoids most of the above. Even Muffet can see that!
I'm sorry, but you have me confused. Are you arguing against my post? Because nowhere did I mention Geno and Chris, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about
If you are a lawyer then you obviously are not an employment lawyer. Have you never heard of reverse discrimination lawsuits? Yes they are more difficult to prove, but I have actually won one and lost one. Comments like MM's would make a nice basis for a reverse discrimination case if a male, quality coach applied for the next Asst. Coach opening at ND and the job went to a female.
He could make her squirm but he could make the University PAY. The premise of gender bias in this case seems easily proven. 40 males, with some experience, should be lining up. Prove it or not the University may desire to pay them off to avoid all the negative publicity this case should bring.I suspect you are right and that a lot of her utterances originate here. She has doubled down on this particular theme and maybe she thinks it is a recruiting tool. She should have said it just once and had ND's HR Dept. all over her with an advisory written caution. Should a male ever apply to work with her and be turned down he could make her squirm some. Maybe Coach Jumper should apply for her next opening!
Ha I could see Walz doing this.
Reverse discrimination is so difficult to process it is rarely done. He only stated the truth: All Males, minorities yes, are not protected. There is not a special class of White Males. I doubt anyone, attorney or not, wants to delve into the many area's/ factors relative to discrimination or Reverse of such.
I’ve been asking for some time on this thread without success for someone to tell me who specifically has standing to charge ND with discrimination. Beyond that, Title VII cases are restricted to organizations employing 15 or more people. ND WBB employs 4. If an attorney were to attempt to bring a reverse discrimination suit against the ND athletic department or the University itself, they would really have a difficult time explaining all those male coaches working under Brian Kelly or all those tenured Jesuit priests teaching biology, philosophy, etc.
No need to protect Geno here, also kind of like Muffy. (Just because she still plays us regular season.)
To my point, has MM lost her mind or religion? A VERY high profile representative of a Jesuit school submitting to the article her BLATANTLY SEXIST reason she had a male on the staff...
"McGraw used to employ a male assistant because she thought it was valuable for her players to see a woman supervise a man."
Really? When’s the last time you were casually groped and then sneered at and insulted for being offended? How about being passed over for a promotion because the boss knowa woman has children and he thinks they’d be a “distraction “ to the job?
There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. There is only discrimination and it is wrong no matter how much you dislike the current balance.
