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brasssbonanzaa said:
All of those cities mentioned sound a hell of a lot better than Greenvile, NC, Tulsa, northern Dallas, Houston, and a high school in New Orleans.

I agree though if this requires demoting football to Indy, MAC, or CUSA it's absolutely not worth it. If we can remain in the AAC as FB-only that'd be ideal. MWC as a FB-only would be an interesting thought as they're competitively on par, though travel would be awful.
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I hope by high school you are referring to their basketball arena, because Tulane is one of the better schools in the whole country.
 
Likeliest scenario is we don't go anywhere. That being said, it doesn't hurt to get the media coverage in order to make higher negotiations with Aresco down the line (a la Tier 3 rights, media deal). Kind of like the Big 12 did to get a pay raise from ESPN for doing absolutely nothing.
 
superjohn said:
Is this a serious question? Way more people care about Butler basketball than Tulane basketball.
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Yes. And way more people care about and have heard of Tulane University, than Butler. Name recognition matters, however it is achieved.
 
superjohn said:
Is this a serious question? Way more people care about Butler basketball than Tulane basketball.
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It is serious. Butler is ranked. They have national interest. BUT, how many fans does this school have? Tulane has a long history, once an SEC school, and it has football. I don't know that it doesn't have more fans than Butler. Seems to me that it would. Bigger school too.
 
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The best bb option for UConn is the ACC. The second best is the B!G. The third best is the NBE. The fourth imo is a toss up between the Big 12 and the AAC. Playing Kansas, Texas, West Virginia plus whatever X team surfaces to the top (this years Baylor for instance, KState a few years back) is certainly preferable to playing Cinci, Memphis, Temple and Houston. But not enough imo to deal with the politics that takes place in that conference. UConn would never get a fair shake with the way that conference is set up. The monies would alleviate that considerably. But I'd prefer improving the AAC to increase future revenue streams than having a marriage with Texas. And I don't think the improvement necessary to accomplish this will be that difficult.

I still believe UConn has a chance to get into the ACC or the B!G. And I believe that putting UConn into the BE for bb eliminates the small chance remaining.

The funny thing is that had UConn been successful the past two seasons in OOC play it is possible that the AAC's RPI in these two seasons could have been significantly better. The conference hasn't let UConn down. Just the opposite. The APR sanctions not only hurt UConn but had a ripple effect on the conference.
 
fleudslipcon said:
This supports my impression this is a Rothstein generated controversy. But I'm not a fan of zags so I'll wait for other articles supporting my contention.
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The headline of the Zags article is from a Big East spokesperson, which is kind of what you'd expect him to say, especially if his name is going to be attached to the quote. However, buried in that Zags article is basically a confirmation of Rothstein's article:

One league source also told ZAGSBLOG the two sides have had talks.

“They have been exploring the possibility and there is strong mutual interest,” the source said. “As for timing, I can’t say but it’s definitely real. The biggest challenge is what do with football.”
 
It would be a short sighted move as the bball tv money down the road is not going to be any better and likely dwindling so abandoning fball would likely condemn it to death or div. 2.
 
upstater said:
Huh. I only remember 1.

Maybe it's just me, but it's just as well we play Temple.

Again--the NBE clearly has the advantage because of the Old Old BE teams. Love to play them again. I just don't see the draw in the others. I mean, Butler and Xavier are clearly excellent teams, but just the thought of buying tickets to those games doesn't warm me up much.
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They clobbered us in the first game back with Marcus Williams: Connecticut vs. Marquette - Game Recap - January 3, 2006 - ESPN
Tight game in a season we hit a free-fall: Marquette vs. Connecticut - Game Recap - January 10, 2007 - ESPN
We won easy, but it was a Top 10 showdown: Connecticut vs. Marquette - Game Recap - February 25, 2009 - ESPN
We lost on a last second shot: Marquette vs. Connecticut - Game Recap - January 30, 2010 - ESPN
Hoop on the wrong basket in OT: Marquette vs. Connecticut - Game Recap - February 24, 2011 - ESPN
OT: Connecticut vs. Marquette - Game Recap - January 1, 2013 - ESPN

There were other tight or close games that weren't as significant.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
They're also top 20 every year creighton too. Also playing the garden for St. John's and the tourney
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Um Creighton has made the NCAAT 3 times in the last decade. They have finished in the top 20 three times in their program history and have only entered the top 20 6 times in the last FORTY years.

Do people realize basketball has been played for longer than a few years?
 
Jerry1714 said:
Um Creighton has made the NCAAT 3 times in the last decade. They have finished in the top 20 three times in their program history and have only entered the top 20 6 times in the last FORTY years.

Do people realize basketball has been played for longer than a few years?
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But how have they been doing this past few years as not a name brand school?
 
tcf15 said:
The headline of the Zags article is from a Big East spokesperson, which is kind of what you'd expect him to say, especially if his name is going to be attached to the quote. However, buried in that Zags article is basically a confirmation of Rothstein's article:

One league source also told ZAGSBLOG the two sides have had talks.

“They have been exploring the possibility and there is strong mutual interest,” the source said. “As for timing, I can’t say but it’s definitely real. The biggest challenge is what do with football.”
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Fox must be offering a big change in monies to the BE and separately to UConn for UConn to be considering this. Does UConn have enough leverage with the AAC to get them to approve a football only arrangement? Where else could UConn park football? The MWC?
 
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Excalibur said:
The chance of #2 happening is approximately 0% . . .
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So let me throw something out there. Would the B1G go along with a six game football scheduling deal (we are already listed as P5 for the league) if we moved Hockey to the B1G? Gets a little more interesting now doesn't it?
 
UConnSwag11 said:
But how have they been doing this past few years as not a name brand school?
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Bad, NIT last year, 14-19 the year before that. You are way over inflating creighton basketball, they are not even close to a top 20 team every year.

They had a once in a generation type player for them, and he left 4 years ago, and their best finish with him was ranked 16th. This was also their best year in forty years.
 
I don't understand why UConn couldn't keep football in the AAC. Obviously the AAC would have to agree to it but who would they get to replace us.
 
Return to the BEAST let's make it happen my prognostication is coming to fruition. We should be looking to make it a package deal with Cinci to put the Big East on par with ACC and that will force the AAC to keep both programs for football only to save the conference. Wishing for the Big 10 or ACC or Big 12 to come knocking 10 years from now is wishful thinking at best. As a package deal not only will the Big East take us and force the AAC to keep both football programs, but ESPN will have a lot of things to think about like whether they will bid big money for the new BEAST or whether they will use their leverage to get us into a P5 conference. Either way we will be the winners in this.

PS: MAKE UCONN BASKETBALL GREAT AGAIN RETURN TO THE BEAST.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
So let me throw something out there. Would the B1G go along with a six game football scheduling deal (we are already listed as P5 for the league) if we moved Hockey to the B1G? Gets a little more interesting now doesn't it?
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I've been thinking this is our best route to at least some B1G scheduling arrangement if we can't get full membership going forward. The B1G hockey conference can't survive with 6 teams and they're adding Notre Dame next year since the ACC doesn't sponsor hockey. UConn hockey has been surprisingly decent since it got promoted to the big show so would be great to leverage that into at worst a couple game scheduling agreement for football and basketball.
 
Slasher said:
Old article. I'm sure WSU is much more interested in the AAC, considering that the basketball is far less of a dumpster fire than the MWC.
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Point is they don't have football but are exploring the feasibility of getting it back. They'd be attractive to the AAC and hence no need for the AAC to keep UConn in football only.
 
ConnZag3 said:
I've been thinking this is our best route to at least some B1G scheduling arrangement if we can't get full membership going forward. The B1G hockey conference can't survive with 6 teams and they're adding Notre Dame next year since the ACC doesn't sponsor hockey. UConn hockey has been surprisingly decent since it got promoted to the big show so would be great to leverage that into at worst a couple game scheduling agreement for football and basketball.
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It wouldn't be worth it to move hockey from HE while playing in the AAC. But the B1G needs a hockey team like ours. So if we were considering going independent in football, we'd need a scheduling deal, and that might be enough to get one.
 
4th best is a tie between AAC and B12? Huh?

The AAC is a wasteland for all sports.

The whole league only had 3 4 * football recruits for 2017. Aresco is a total clown referring this as P6.

1 bowl win in 6 games. And basketball is a bigger joke. 2 ok teams and 2 average and 7 other jokes.

fleudslipcon said:
The best bb option for UConn is the ACC. The second best is the B!G. The third best is the NBE. The fourth imo is a toss up between the Big 12 and the AAC. Playing Kansas, Texas, West Virginia plus whatever X team surfaces to the top (this years Baylor for instance, KState a few years back) is certainly preferable to playing Cinci, Memphis, Temple and Houston. But not enough imo to deal with the politics that takes place in that conference. UConn would never get a fair shake with the way that conference is set up. The monies would alleviate that considerably. But I'd prefer improving the AAC to increase future revenue streams than having a marriage with Texas. And I don't think the improvement necessary to accomplish this will be that difficult.

I still believe UConn has a chance to get into the ACC or the B!G. And I believe that putting UConn into the BE for bb eliminates the small chance remaining.

The funny thing is that had UConn been successful the past two seasons in OOC play it is possible that the AAC's RPI in these two seasons could have been significantly better. The conference hasn't let UConn down. Just the opposite. The APR sanctions not only hurt UConn but had a ripple effect on the conference.
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upstater said:
It is serious. Butler is ranked. They have national interest. BUT, how many fans does this school have? Tulane has a long history, once an SEC school, and it has football. I don't know that it doesn't have more fans than Butler. Seems to me that it would. Bigger school too.
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Since the move would not include football I figured we are talking about basketball. Butler is a way better basketball school with way more history, a famous arena, basketball crazed state, has been to two recent National Championship games and gets 4 or 5 times as many fans at their home games. Tulane doesn't have a basketball fanbase and their team is an abomination.
 
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