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Damn, and I thought I was critical. We went tow to toe with one of the most talented teams in the world and arguably had the better of it. And you guys are saying GGG had a bad game? I’m not Gregg truther, but…..lmao what???
 
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UConn990411 said:
That’s not what happened. The team started looking tired and needed a sub around the 65-minute mark, but reinforcements didn’t come in until the 77th minute and later. They didn’t have enough time to get into the flow or make a real difference.

It’s a much lesser critique than the Wales game, but the substitutions still weren’t great.
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I wonder if part of the delay on subs was the expectation of a lengthy stoppage time.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I wonder if part of the delay on subs was the expectation of a lengthy stoppage time.
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Priority points on Eng subs.
1. See what Southgate did. We had the advantage. To sub first would have been a mistake.
2. Subs were ready to go, but the ball remained in play for a while.
3. The extra time is ridiculous but there wasn't reason to expect a huge number at that point.

Eng was unimaginative with there subs and allowed US to simply match fresh for fresh using our normal sub pattern.

Argue about who came in, but except for Musah, the guys who came off were the ones who needed to come off.

Eng hoped to win on talent alone or a US gaffe. There talent didn't mesh and the US avoided the big mistake.

GG had a really good game plan, that exploited England's lack of passing out of the back and possession through the midfield. There huge advantage up top never came into play outside a few disparate chances.
 
ZooCougar said:
You mean Dave Sriracha.

Sounds like Gio is talking to Claudio and Claudio is talking to Eric.

www.90min.com

USMNT legend Eric Wynalda claims 'rift' between Gregg Berhalter & Gio Reyna

United States Men's National Team legend and media analyst Eric Wynalda has suggested a 'rift' with head coach Gregg Berhalter is the reason Giovanni Reyna is b
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Reyna should absolutely start vs Iran. A minimum he needs to play at least 30min.

Iran needs a draw to advance. They will pack it in, try to draw fouls and waste time from the open. Completely different game than the last two.

Getting an early goal could mean everything.
 
SubbaBub said:
Reyna should absolutely start vs Iran. A minimum he needs to play at least 30min.

Iran needs a draw to advance. They will pack it in, try to draw fouls and waste time from the open. Completely different game than the last two.

Getting an early goal could mean everything.
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Landycakes, who is much more likeable in retirement just said we need all the weapons on the field for Iran. Iran is going to bunker in, we’ll need every bomb to get into their centrifuges.
 
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ZooCougar said:
You mean Dave Sriracha.

Sounds like Gio is talking to Claudio and Claudio is talking to Eric.

www.90min.com

USMNT legend Eric Wynalda claims 'rift' between Gregg Berhalter & Gio Reyna

United States Men's National Team legend and media analyst Eric Wynalda has suggested a 'rift' with head coach Gregg Berhalter is the reason Giovanni Reyna is b
www.90min.com www.90min.com
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If there’s any truth to this, and it’s certainly plausible, it’s the most egregious thing Berhalter has done to date.

And that really is saying something.
 
UConn990411 said:
If there’s any truth to this, and it’s certainly plausible, it’s the most egregious thing Berhalter has done to date.

And that really is saying something.
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Time to go dig a hole in the desert.
 
ZooCougar said:
Landycakes, who is much more likeable in retirement just said we need all the weapons on the field for Iran. Iran is going to bunker in, we’ll need every bomb to get into their centrifuges.
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Right now, I'd start him and Dempsey up top in a 442 over anyone we have. Don't care if they can't run. Our attacking options are the worst.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I wonder if part of the delay on subs was the expectation of a lengthy stoppage time.
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If that burned them on the final substitution, that’s more understandable. But they just didn’t give the subs enough time to get into game flow to make a difference. I’m also not a fan of bunching substitutions the way Berhalter does, but that’s a conversation for another day.

The U.S. has played well both games, but I still think Aaronson and Gio are too good to leave out of the starting lineup for Iran. They’re so much more dangerous with the ball than the guys they’ve been replacing.
 
SubbaBub said:
Right now, I'd start him and Dempsey up top in a 442 over anyone we have. Don't care if they can't run. Our attacking options are the worst.
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We really haven’t gotten anything from our strikers. Start Pulisic Weah and Reyna up top. Or even Aaronson. Something good will happen.
 
UConn990411 said:
If that burned them on the final substitution, that’s more understandable. But they just didn’t give the subs enough time to get into game flow to make a difference. I’m also not a fan of bunching substitutions the way Berhalter does, but that’s a conversation for another day.

The U.S. has played well both games, but I still think Aaronson and Gio are too good to leave out of the starting lineup for Iran. They’re so much more dangerous with the ball than the guys they’ve been replacing.
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We had subs standing on the sideline for nearly ten minutes. The ball never went out with us in possession. England was playing for the draw and wisely kept it in play. That’s the risk you run when you wait too long like Greggg did.

We needed subs at like the 60 minute mark.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Priority points on Eng subs.
1. See what Southgate did. We had the advantage. To sub first would have been a mistake.
2. Subs were ready to go, but the ball remained in play for a while.
3. The extra time is ridiculous but there wasn't reason to expect a huge number at that point.

Eng was unimaginative with there subs and allowed US to simply match fresh for fresh using our normal sub pattern.

Argue about who came in, but except for Musah, the guys who came off were the ones who needed to come off.

Eng hoped to win on talent alone or a US gaffe. There talent didn't mesh and the US avoided the big mistake.

GG had a really good game plan, that exploited England's lack of passing out of the back and possession through the midfield. There huge advantage up top never came into play outside a few disparate chances.
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I don’t agree. Why react to their adjustments? We had them on the ropes. A fresh dose of attacking power would have amped up the pressure.

I sort of think Southgate conceded the draw when he subbed in low octane Jordan Freaking Henderson.
 
In our last 6 non-concacaf games we’ve scored 4 goals and 3 were against Morocco

Ggg’s offense doesn’t produce high quality goal scoring moments. Facts. Gonna be tough to get 2 on Tuesday
 
ZooCougar said:
We really haven’t gotten anything from our strikers. Start Pulisic Weah and Reyna up top. Or even Aaronson. Something good will happen.
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I would do this. I don't know how good Iran is in the air. if they are very good, then this makes perfect sense because our guys suck. Going small/fast would be a good counter. GGG won't do it. He will play for the hail mary of catching lightning in the bottle from one of his reserves and claim he is a genius.
 
ZooCougar said:
I don’t agree. Why react to their adjustments? We had them on the ropes. A fresh dose of attacking power would have amped up the pressure.

I sort of think Southgate conceded the draw when he subbed in low octane Jordan Freaking Henderson.
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GGG was making these subs anyway, so zero points for cleverness. But I would have been a crime to sub in Yedlin only to have Foden line up opposite him and put Rashford in the middle allowing Kane to drop a bit deeper. Once Southgate committed to Henderson and Rashford at their spots, it made it an easier decision to go with a pure defensive RB (I assume that's what Moore was). If he brings in another center forward as Wales did, he might have brought in a third CB and let CP and Reyna roam up top.

At the time, I felt like that's what he was doing and as soon as Southgate made his move, GG made his. Can't know unless someone asks him but that's my opinion.
 
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SubbaBub said:
GGG was making these subs anyway, so zero points for cleverness. But I would have been a crime to sub in Yedlin only to have Foden line up opposite him and put Rashford in the middle allowing Kane to drop a bit deeper. Once Southgate committed to Henderson and Rashford at their spots, it made it an easier decision to go with a pure defensive RB (I assume that's what Moore was). If he brings in another center forward as Wales did, he might have brought in a third CB and let CP and Reyna roam up top.

At the time, I felt like that's what he was doing and as soon as Southgate made his move, GG made his. Can't know unless someone asks him but that's my opinion.
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Putting in Moore over Scally was insane.

His substitution pattern and choices ardd red befuddling.
 
SubbaBub said:
I would do this. I don't know how good Iran is in the air. if they are very good, then this makes perfect sense because our guys suck. Going small/fast would be a good counter. GGG won't do it. He will play for the hail mary of catching lightning in the bottle from one of his reserves and claim he is a genius.
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We have to get the goals.

Iran is going to have CONCACAF level gamesmanship.

Jurgen is 100% right here.

 
outlaw said:
could not be more excited for 2pm - hope to see you guys on Pratt St / Vaughans!!

GO GO USA
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Best of luck to us. (I didn't expect us to get through, but if we do that would be great!)
 
ZooCougar said:
Putting in Moore over Scally was insane.

His substitution pattern and choices ardd red befuddling.
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It's insane if you were looking for a goal. Scally has like 3 caps. GGG was looking for a defensive minded RB to shadow Rashford. You can say that was too conservative, that he didn't use the more talented player, but it wasn't an insane choice. He puts Scally in and he ends up giving up a goal, GGG gets murdered for not playing Yedlin, which no one wanted based on his Wales performance, or keeping Dest in who was having a decent game for him. Chaotic but decent.

Moore gives up a goal and he gets murdered, too. So it came down to who he trusted more, which was Shaq. I can't blame him for that. I was 50/50 on leaving Dest in hoping for a goal but worried about his legs against a fresh sub.

Can't be too upset about his decision, especially since it worked out. Moore held his own under direct attacking down that side.
 
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