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May 2024 WNBA Thread, part II

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cancontent said:
Wow. That's a great breakdown. Hopefully that helps to kill the "most are her misses" narrative. Scary thought she'd only be behind Ezi by four without her misses though.
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Not among the Clarkistas - who have decided that rebounds are easy and shouldn’t be counted in double troubles. They only count in triple doubles. Really, only logo threes and assists count for much of anything. Turnovers don’t matter.
 
visitingcock said:
Not among the Clarkistas - who have decided that rebounds are easy and shouldn’t be counted in double troubles. They only count in triple doubles. Really, only logo threes and assists count for much of anything. Turnovers don’t matter.
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Yikes! By now I thought maybe you'd have gotten over Iowa's upset of the Gamecocks in '23, but apparently not...
 
The deacon said:
Yikes! By now I thought maybe you'd have gotten over Iowa's upset of the Gamecocks in '23, but apparently not...
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Not upset with Caitlin. Pulling for her as Bostons teammate. I have nothing against Hawkeyes Who are basketball fans who love her . She has some mad skills. I acknowledge that she is worthy of her all star selection

I can’t stand her worshippers who think she is the best player in the wnba NOW and deserves to recognized as the MOP this year. Rebounds, turnovers, and shooting percentages ARE meaningful stats
 
Next year with Golden State, and especially in 2026 with at least Toronto as well, excited to see a lot of these players, like a Destanni Henderson, like an A. Coates, like a Emma Cannon, who have existed on the periphery of the league hopefully able to secure solid roster spots.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
I'm going LA all the way on league worst. Dallas is only second worst at this point.
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A lively debate could be had here. Maybe these are 13A 13B maybe they are different dimensions of awful maybe well.....

The last Wing game with McCowean obviously throwing in the towel sticks in my mind. I contrast that with the youthful puppy like enthusiasm of Jackson as she picks up her second or third foul, the first quarter.

What I suppose we might agree upon is that it's no surprise these two are in a heated contest for the bottom of the league. Both injuries, a revamped roster, and challenges with chemistry characterize both franchises.

In support of your point of view anytime the local announcers are enthusiastically pumping up Ari McDonald you know you've got a roster that is questionable. The former kitties is as quick as lightning. She's quick as lightning. Anytime she's your best option in the back court I think you got to reflect on your roster with apologies to Barnes.
 
bbsamjj said:
Next year with Golden State, and especially in 2026 with at least Toronto as well, excited to see a lot of these players, like a Destanni Henderson, like an A. Coates, like a Emma Cannon, who have existed on the periphery of the league hopefully able to secure solid roster spots.
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Perhaps those types of players will be able to hang on to the last available roster spot on an expansion team. I'm guessing there will be an expansion draft which will allow these two teams to pick a couple of decent players off existing rosters. Then with players like Pbuckets coming out, I'm thinking of JuJuu, Johnson, even Hidalgo the expansion rosters will begin to fill up. Also looking overseas there might be more movement there.

But I suspect our favorite Fringe player may have a chance greater than zero after expansion of sticking for a while.
 
cancontent said:
Wow. That's a great breakdown. Hopefully that helps to kill the "most are her misses" narrative. Scary thought she'd only be behind Ezi by four without her misses though.
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If you take away Jewel Lloyd's misses from beyond the arc I think she's shooting 100%...scary

Edit: rereading this reply I can see that it's snarky. It was my clumsy effort to quote I believe it was Mark Twain who said there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

One analyst looks at Angel and sees less than 40% shooting. Another analyst sees all those offensive rebounds. I think they both provide a picture although incomplete of a extremely talented young lady.
 
Losing to the worst team in the league BY FAR has to rank up there as one of the biggest disappointments of the night.
 
Not sure I have this right, but taking last year’s WNBA won-lost records, extrapolating current won-lost records to the end of this season and aggregating every team’s two-year won-lost record, and considering that the NY Liberty has the right to swap its first-round pick in next year’s draft with the Phoenix Mercury’s first-round pick — does that all add up to the Liberty currently having the best odds to pick first in next year’s draft?
 
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Does Atlanta prefer Henderson over Dangerfield, or was it that Henderson was cheaper for them?
 
azfan said:
In support of your point of view anytime the local announcers are enthusiastically pumping up Ari McDonald you know you've got a roster that is questionable. The former kitties is as quick as lightning. She's quick as lightning. Anytime she's your best option in the back court I think you got to reflect on your roster with apologies to Barnes.
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She is looking pretty darn good tonight.
 
GardenState said:
Not sure I have this right, but taking last year’s WNBA won-lost records, extrapolating current won-lost records to the end of this season and aggregating every team’s two-year won-lost record, and considering that the NY Liberty has the right to swap its first-round pick in next year’s draft with the Phoenix Mercury’s first-round pick — does that all add up to the Liberty currently having the best odds to pick first in next year’s draft?
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If Phoenix is one of the last four teams at the end the 2024 regular season, and if it has the lowest combined 2023 and 2024 win-loss record, then NY gets the highest odds of getting the first pick in the 2025 regular WNBA draft.

Currently (games through July 5), if Phoenix loses its next 3 games for a 10-13 record, there is a chance it becomes the 4th to the last team (over Atlanta (pick goes to Washington), Indiana and Chicago (pick goes to Indiana)). Its resulting 2-year record (19-44) would be the worst at that time.

Each team has 40 regular season games.
 
Kiah Stokes is just awful. Pitiful. Terrible.

But Becky Hammon coached one of the worst games I've seen her coach in a while.

Re The Deacon: A 6'3 player who does NOTHING offensively should at least be able to rebound. Your girl cannot do anything right.
 
Just when the Aces finally start to get on track, they go and lose to the worst team in the league...for the second time this season.
 
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Game went OT. LA led most of the extra session. They were up 2 late, got fouled, missed both FTs...and Vegas gave up an O board. Absolutely unforgivable.
 
Well, we can officially put "A'ja for MVP" to rest. The team (thanks, Becky!) has decided that's not going to happen this season. Shame because the rest of the candidates are MEH this year.
 
Also, it's hilarious to me that Kelsey Plum always wants the smoke when the team is winning but SHRINKS in the big moments. Biggest frontrunner I've seen in a while. Let's see what she has to say in the postgame presser...IF she shows up to it.
 
Wasted another huge game from Wilson 35 pts/12 reb/6 blocks. Plum had 21, Young w/ 18, 15 of which were in Q4 and OT.

Hamby nearly battled Wilson to a standstill, 28 pts/13 reb. 23 for McDonald (new career high I think I heard them say). Jackson had 14. Maybe the real star of the game though was Talbot, 13 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds, and several huge plays down the stretch. Seattle should've kept her when they had her. Nice player who can do a lot of different things. Thought she was better than KLS when they had both.
 
Chelsea Gray has been garbage the last two games. Imagine bricking on one end and giving up crucial buckets to Talbot (really?) on the other. Could not be me.

And finally, to Hamby: give it a rest. Take that weird energy somewhere else. Nobody's going to laud you for being on a team that's won a quarter of its games at the midway point. Enjoy your Super Bowl.
 
Baller29 said:
Yeah gray hasn’t been performing well offensively
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You're being kind. She has been nothing short of awful the last two games. Her TOs and bricks lately have been nausea-inducing.

On a more pleasant note, it's been great watching a player like Angel Reese this season. She has the "want to" that will serve her well in this league.
 
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MilfordHusky said:
Does Atlanta prefer Henderson over Dangerfield, or was it that Henderson was cheaper for them?
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I think Canada was healthy when they cut dangerfield. CD was signed by the sparks. So the dream had to find another guard
 
MilfordHusky said:
Does Atlanta prefer Henderson over Dangerfield, or was it that Henderson was cheaper for them?
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Don't know that answer but Crystal is now on a 7-day stint with Los Angeles. Didn't play last night, but she's there.
Talking about those 7-day (bounce around) contracts, I see Kiana Williams -- although still with the Storm -- is now signed to one of those.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Sky get a nice road win at Seattle. Carter and Reese w/ big games.
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And Seattle (now 13-7) had its four-game win streak - all by double-digit margins - snapped. At home in front of 10,000+.

I didn't watch the whole game, but Carter's ability to get to the paint via drives and pull-ups was relentless -- and really effective -- last night (she shot 15-24). Reese, besides the double-double, was 9-10 from the FT line, which will make her even more effective.
Mabrey's shooting slump continues, but she facilitated last night; garnering 7 assists and kept the ball moving to the right players.
 
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The Aces loss to LA is certainly "bad," but it was their second game in 2 nights, on the road, and guess what, it's the WNBA, every team is talented and pretty much every top team has a "bad" loss:

NY lost to Chicago AT HOME.
CT lost to Atlanta AT HOME.
MN lost at Dallas.
SEA just lost to Chicago AT HOME.

Unless something crazy happens, the MVP is Wilson's. Her stats are too good and I have a feeling Vegas will still finish in top 3 in league.
 
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