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LoTrader said:
I can't see Coach Rueck leaving OSU for UT. With the recruits OSU has coming next year, and, the team that is coming back next year, OSU is a legitimate contender for the National Championship. And I believe OSU will get some quality guards/wings from the 2020 class. Rueck now has OSU as a destination for great players from all over the country. 9 years later, Rueck is close to to bringing OSU to the promise land.
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This isn’t college football, so I can’t see any name who has established an upper echelon program moving.

I am sure there are plenty of Mid Major coaches that would jump at it —-but would a high profile program go that route ? Trish Fabbri at Q, I’d luv to see what she could do with the talent Tenn attracts.

Kara checks every box but the important previous coaching experience box - but I doubt anyone thinks she couldn’t do it - and she is smart enough to pick the right staff to fill in the blanks.

I am rooting that they take what I call the “Total Capitulation” approach —-

Offer Jen or Shea !!!! LOL
 
'nuff sed said:
This isn’t college football, so I can’t see any name who has established an upper echelon program moving.

I am sure there are plenty of Mid Major coaches that would jump at it —-but would a high profile program go that route ? Trish Fabbri at Q, I’d luv to see what she could do with the talent Tenn attracts.

Kara checks every box but the important previous coaching experience box - but I doubt anyone thinks she couldn’t do it - and she is smart enough to pick the right staff to fill in the blanks.

I am rooting that they take what I call the “Total Capitulation” approach —-

Offer Jen or Shea !!!! LOL
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Hiring Shea wouldn't be the worst idea for the Lady Vols (although I'm not sure Tennessee would pull the trigger and I'm not sure that Shea would ever accept). But hiring Jen seems like a questionable decision. While she was successful at Hartford, she is struggling at George Washington.

The years under her predecessor Tsipis:

2012-13: 14-16 (7-7) Massey 141
2013-14: 23-11 (11-5) Massey 68
2014-15: 29-4 (15-1) Massey 24
2015-16: 26-7 (13-3) Massey 42

Her 2+ seasons there:

2016-17: 20-10 (13-3), Massey 97
2017-18: 19-14 (10-6), Massey 82
2018-19: 6-11 (3-1), Massey 196

Big caveat: note that Tsipis had Jonquel Jones for the last three years.

She obviously needs more time to get her players and implement her system fully, but the early returns are not impressive enough to warrant serious consideration from Tennessee.
 
vowelguy said:
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He's a fan on Volnation who maintains that he could improve the LV and says he has contacted Holly about working one-on-one with some of the women, but she has declined his offers. His real goal is to be an assistant coach at the college level but says he's too old to go the traditional route of AAU coaching, etc. He calls himself Coach Jumper.
 
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Ok so I left out Lawson, Hammon, Meier.

Though I’m very skeptical Hammon has interest - she is on track to be a women’s pioneer as 1st female nba coach. Also skeptical on Kara. She calls games for her hometown Wizards and the key WCBb games.
 
Considering it clearly isn't working out with Holly, I don't see Tennessee hiring another person with zero head coaching experience. Ralph and Ivey would be at the top of my wishlist. Problem is, both will likely leave once Muffet/Geno retire. Candidates I'd want for the position include:

1. Gail Goestenkors-I don't think she'd come back, but she was a heck of a coach at Duke and I think would have an easier time recruiting players to Tennessee than she did at Texas. Stellar recruiter and great at developing her teams. If her heart was in it, I think she could turn the program around.

2. Scott Rueck-another one I don't see happening. I get the feeling that OSU is his dream school and he's working to build a powerhouse in the PNW. He's also married with 3 kids, moving from Oregon to Tennessee would be a pretty drastic change in atmosphere.

3. Courtney Banghart-has excellent results at Princeton. Realistic option.

4. Lisa Fortier-young coach with great results so far. Only 37 years old. Very realistic option.

5. Jenny Baranczyk-another good coach in the mold of Fortier. Realistic option.


I personally wouldn't want Walz at Tennessee....he's a solid coach but everything about his performance at Louisville has been all over the place. So many conditional offers, transfers, volume recruiting, up and down results, etc. He's had some good moments in the sun but I don't think he'd be a great fit.

Staley would be a solid option but I see zero chance of her leaving Columbia. She's building a powerhouse there and had a massive class coming in.

Vic Schaefer I'd take in a heartbeat but no way it's happening. He just got a big pay day and is beloved in Starkville.

Kara Lawson would be a great choice for an assistant IMO, but no way is she a real candidate with no coaching experience. Hammon isn't leaving the men's game anytime soon and honestly doesn't have experience coaching in women's basketball.
 
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Fightin Choke said:
Hiring Shea wouldn't be the worst idea for the Lady Vols (although I'm not sure Tennessee would pull the trigger and I'm not sure that Shea would ever accept). But hiring Jen seems like a questionable decision. While she was successful at Hartford, she is struggling at George Washington.

The years under her predecessor Tsipis:

2012-13: 14-16 (7-7) Massey 141
2013-14: 23-11 (11-5) Massey 68
2014-15: 29-4 (15-1) Massey 24
2015-16: 26-7 (13-3) Massey 42

Her 2+ seasons there:

2016-17: 20-10 (13-3), Massey 97
2017-18: 19-14 (10-6), Massey 82
2018-19: 6-11 (3-1), Massey 196

Big caveat: note that Tsipis had Jonquel Jones for the last three years.

She obviously needs more time to get her players and implement her system fully, but the early returns are not impressive enough to warrant serious consideration from Tennessee.
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I'd be very interested in Shea if I was Tennessee, although going from Pat's handpicked predecessor to Geno's pupil likely wouldn't go over well with the fan base. To Shea's credit, I recall her saying some very nice things about Pat (something to the effect that she'd love her daughter to play for her) and I believe her mom has ties to Tennessee or Pat. Shea is also from NC so she'd be coming closer to where she grew up.

Jen had some good seasons at Hartford but her results haven't been all over the place. I don't think she'd be a candidate.


I do fear that Tennessee would target Nikki Fargas of LSU or Kellie Harper at Missouri State since they're alums. Fargas has had mediocre results at LSU (a traditionally strong program), and Harper has done quite well at mid-majors but didn't do well at NC State. I'd rather see her coach at a different P5 and find success at a higher level first before Tennessee hires her.
 
Fightin Choke said:
Hiring Shea wouldn't be the worst idea for the Lady Vols (although I'm not sure Tennessee would pull the trigger and I'm not sure that Shea would ever accept). But hiring Jen seems like a questionable decision. While she was successful at Hartford, she is struggling at George Washington.

The years under her predecessor Tsipis:

2012-13: 14-16 (7-7) Massey 141
2013-14: 23-11 (11-5) Massey 68
2014-15: 29-4 (15-1) Massey 24
2015-16: 26-7 (13-3) Massey 42

Her 2+ seasons there:

2016-17: 20-10 (13-3), Massey 97
2017-18: 19-14 (10-6), Massey 82
2018-19: 6-11 (3-1), Massey 196

Big caveat: note that Tsipis had Jonquel Jones for the last three years.

She obviously needs more time to get her players and implement her system fully, but the early returns are not impressive enough to warrant serious consideration from Tennessee.
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Massey is meaningless to me.

It’s what you do with what you have to work with.

Recruiting - it takes time to build local and area relationships when you’re moving into new geography.

I think the recent w-l record reflects that.

I spend a decent amount of time in DC and am usually looking to find something to do when I’m down there after hours - perhaps I’ll take in a couple games.

I forgot to put the /sarc tag on my post....but Jen with the talent currently on the Tenn roster ? Watch out.
 
Anyone know what Melanie Balcomb is up to? Her last SEC stop resulted in better offensive efficiency and a National Championship for South Carolina.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
No. Jodi is extremely well respected at Texas and had a fair influence in the current coach selection. The impact of any of these coaches is primarily on their immediate successor. In that respect, Jodi isn't a factor, but at least until recently she was often seen at UT games, and interviewed at times.
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Certainly wasn't trying to knock Jodi, but unlike the next coach at TN or at Stanford or ND, or CT I don't get the sense they are competing against Jodi, they are simply the next TX coach and the fan base rates them based on their record, not as that record compares to a previous coach.
 
Sue Semrau has taken her team to two Elite Eights, a Sweet 16, and a round of 32 in her last four seasons...and from a program without a huge WBB brand.
 
If any of you guys/gals care to check out volnation, a poster there posted a tweet from a nashville radio sports host basically saying that holly warlick could be out as coach before the end of the season..

This is interesting because i cant imagine warlick stepping down BEFORE the end of the season no matter how bad things get

 
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Boxerpups4me said:
If any of you guys/gals care to check out volnation, a poster there posted a tweet from a nashville radio sports host basically saying that holly warlick could be out as coach before the end of the season..

This is interesting because i cant imagine warlick stepping down BEFORE the end of the season no matter how bad things get
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I truly doubt the accuracy of that tweet. No inside information, but I don't think Holly quits before end of season and I don't think UT is in financial position to terminate her at this point.
 
RandomFan85 said:
I truly doubt the accuracy of that tweet. No inside information, but I don't think Holly quits before end of season and I don't think UT is in financial position to terminate her at this point.
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I agree with you..its hard for me to believe that would happen
 
Rizzotti? Haha, no. I love Jen, but she's not getting it done at GW (yet).

Yes on Semrau, had thought of her earlier but forgot to include her.
 
Fightin Choke said:
Hiring Shea wouldn't be the worst idea for the Lady Vols (although I'm not sure Tennessee would pull the trigger and I'm not sure that Shea would ever accept). But hiring Jen seems like a questionable decision. While she was successful at Hartford, she is struggling at George Washington.

The years under her predecessor Tsipis:

2012-13: 14-16 (7-7) Massey 141
2013-14: 23-11 (11-5) Massey 68
2014-15: 29-4 (15-1) Massey 24
2015-16: 26-7 (13-3) Massey 42

Her 2+ seasons there:

2016-17: 20-10 (13-3), Massey 97
2017-18: 19-14 (10-6), Massey 82
2018-19: 6-11 (3-1), Massey 196

Big caveat: note that Tsipis had Jonquel Jones for the last three years.

She obviously needs more time to get her players and implement her system fully, but the early returns are not impressive enough to warrant serious consideration from Tennessee.
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At GW, Tsipis and his initial recruiting coordinator Megan Duffy did a good job of surrounding Jones with some very fundamentally solid and smart guards. And Duffy, a former All-American point guard herself, coached them up. Tsipis, of course, is trying to turn the U.S.S. Wisconsin around by rebuilding high school and AAU contacts in the Midwest, and Duffy, after a stint coaching Katelynn Flaherty at Michigan, is now in charge of her own show in Miami (Ohio).
 
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I think Nikki Fargas has as much chance being named head coach of UT as Tyler Summitt, although LSU fans would be thrilled. Holly, TS and the very mediocre performance of Fargas has brought some reality to those fans who simply wanted to see the Pat Summit line continue.

Courtney Banghart is right where she belongs. There are some questions about her relating to non-Princeton type players, which is why she didn't get the USC job.
 
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Fightin Choke said:
I think he sees himself as more of an assistant coach right now. If he could just get onto Holly's staff, a lot of the problems plaguing the LV would be fixed.

Or so it goes...
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I trust you are not serious on this. Coach Jumper has been banned by Holly from coaching any of her players during the off-season due to his very pointed criticism directed at her coaching. Before any player can work with personal trainers, they have to be approved by the school/coach and Coach Jumper, most assuredly is not.
I find some of the names bemusing and downright dumb.
Many on VolNation keep bringing up Gail G which is bizarre as she WAS HORRIBLE at Texas and what makes anyone think she would be better at Tenn. she has now been out of the networking game for 6 years as well.
Lindsey Gottlieb was also mentioned and her trend is spiraling down. Her resume is average at best and no way would I turn this over to someone whose record is regressing.
To me, Wes Moore at 61, seems too old for a move especially given what he’s building at NC State but he was an assistant at Tenn.

NONE of the Tenn former players who are now coaches have done anything to warrant getting this program and frankly, they need to find new blood/pedigree to advance this program into 2020’s. Pat’s philosophy was outdated 10 years ago.

I think it is great theatre to watch and something UConn can learn from. If, for example, Kara does reconsider coaching and takes the job and is successful, that might pave the way for Shea, Sue Bird or Diana Taurasi to come in. If she fails, then UConn would need to rethink a priority on experience in recruiting and D1 coaching.
 
DefenseBB said:
Lindsey Gottlieb was also mentioned and her trend is spiraling down. Her resume is average at best and no way would I turn this over to someone whose record is regressing.
To me, Wes Moore at 61, seems too old for a move especially given what he’s building at NC State but he was an assistant at Tenn.
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Cal fans would LOVE to have another school hire Gottlieb away from them.
 
DefenseBB said:
Many on VolNation keep bringing up Gail G which is bizarre as she WAS HORRIBLE at Texas and what makes anyone think she would be better at Tenn. she has now been out of the networking game for 6 years as well.
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GGs time at UT was complicated. But the story was that she wanted to keep Jody's assistants but the AD pressed her to clean house. In doing so, Clarissa Davis-Wrightsil - who was very popular with the TX HS coaches - was pissed off and poisoned her name in-state. A UT coach without local TX support is troubled from the start.
 
vowelguy said:
GGs time at UT was complicated. But the story was that she wanted to keep Jody's assistants but the AD pressed her to clean house. In doing so, Clarissa Davis-Wrightsil - who was very popular with the TX HS coaches - was pissed off and poisoned her name in-state. A UT coach without local TX support is troubled from the start.
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That (C D-W)is also what I heard through the folks I knew at the time. I didn't know (one way or the other) about what GG wanted to do with Jody's assistants.

This is what I was referring to earlier in the thread - it is always the coach that follows a legend that has some issues. Even Vivian when she came to Rutgers faced some opposition as TG (Grentz) was beloved by a lot of the fan base at Rutgers. Effects linger, and could have been worse if CVS wasn't a legend in her own right and quite successful in spite of the Grentzie effect, as a friend called it.

GG just couldn't match all the pieces together at Texas - i.e. pleasing the locals, be they HS coaches or even some of the fan base. Too bad, really, because I am one who thinks she was a really fine coach.
 
Fightin Choke said:
I think he sees himself as more of an assistant coach right now. If he could just get onto Holly's staff, a lot of the problems plaguing the LV would be fixed.

Or so it goes...
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Not what I've read recently. He's ready to step in.
 
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DefenseBB said:
I trust you are not serious on this. Coach Jumper has been banned by Holly from coaching any of her players during the off-season due to his very pointed criticism directed at her coaching. Before any player can work with personal trainers, they have to be approved by the school/coach and Coach Jumper, most assuredly is not.
I find some of the names bemusing and downright dumb.
Many on VolNation keep bringing up Gail G which is bizarre as she WAS HORRIBLE at Texas and what makes anyone think she would be better at Tenn. she has now been out of the networking game for 6 years as well.
Lindsey Gottlieb was also mentioned and her trend is spiraling down. Her resume is average at best and no way would I turn this over to someone whose record is regressing.
To me, Wes Moore at 61, seems too old for a move especially given what he’s building at NC State but he was an assistant at Tenn.

NONE of the Tenn former players who are now coaches have done anything to warrant getting this program and frankly, they need to find new blood/pedigree to advance this program into 2020’s. Pat’s philosophy was outdated 10 years ago.

I think it is great theatre to watch and something UConn can learn from. If, for example, Kara does reconsider coaching and takes the job and is successful, that might pave the way for Shea, Sue Bird or Diana Taurasi to come in. If she fails, then UConn would need to rethink a priority on experience in recruiting and D1 coaching.
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Coach Jumper is one of the greatest sources of unintentional comedy on VolNation. The epitome of the delusional Vol fan. Constantly tooting his horn about how *he* is the coach who can restore the program to greatness. His byline is "I can be there tomorrow." If in fact he's telling the truth about mailing his lunatic "offers" of his services to the administration, I'm sure they already have restraining orders against him :D
 
DefenseBB said:
I trust you are not serious on this. Coach Jumper has been banned by Holly from coaching any of her players during the off-season due to his very pointed criticism directed at her coaching. Before any player can work with personal trainers, they have to be approved by the school/coach and Coach Jumper, most assuredly is not.
I find some of the names bemusing and downright dumb.
Many on VolNation keep bringing up Gail G which is bizarre as she WAS HORRIBLE at Texas and what makes anyone think she would be better at Tenn. she has now been out of the networking game for 6 years as well.
Lindsey Gottlieb was also mentioned and her trend is spiraling down. Her resume is average at best and no way would I turn this over to someone whose record is regressing.
To me, Wes Moore at 61, seems too old for a move especially given what he’s building at NC State but he was an assistant at Tenn.

NONE of the Tenn former players who are now coaches have done anything to warrant getting this program and frankly, they need to find new blood/pedigree to advance this program into 2020’s. Pat’s philosophy was outdated 10 years ago.

I think it is great theatre to watch and something UConn can learn from. If, for example, Kara does reconsider coaching and takes the job and is successful, that might pave the way for Shea, Sue Bird or Diana Taurasi to come in. If she fails, then UConn would need to rethink a priority on experience in recruiting and D1 coaching.
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I was giving his pitch. Let's just say I have serious reservations about his ability to lead the LV back to greatness.
 
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