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HoopsFan21 said:
Two women getting married? This really shouldn't be news. I know it would not be allowed in such bastions of freedom like Arizona or Texas, but in Connecticut this happens every day.
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It's big news because it's 2 WNBA players. Just think what big news it would be if LeBron James and Kobe Bryant announced their engagement.
 
easttexastrash said:
It's big news because it's 2 WNBA players. Just think what big news it would be if LeBron James and Kobe Bryant announced their engagement.
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Actually, I would buy a ticket to that - it would be very interesting to see.

casualties would be high
 
easttexastrash said:
Who uses the word "queer" anymore?
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"Queer" is a word that is actually extensively used by the LGBT community today and (generally) has no negative connotations when it is used. It generally encompasses homosexuality as a whole rather than gay men, lesbians, or other more "specific" experiences.
 
UCHuskies08 said:
"Queer" is a word that is actually extensively used by the LGBT community today and (generally) has no negative connotations when it is used. It generally encompasses homos e xuality as a whole rather than gay men, lesbians, or other more "specific" experiences.
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This word does carry negative connotations. I am gay, as are a lot of my friends, and we DO NOT like the word. WE find the word offensive. Maybe we are not involved enough in the "community" to know that it no longer carries negative connotations.

If you are gay and the word does not offend you, that is great. Maybe to some it is not offensive, and good for them. But I can tell you that my friends and I do not want to be called queers.
 
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I'm not sure if this is allowed per forum rules (mods, my apologies and please delete/edit if it is not), but it is my understanding that Diana & Penny are a couple. DT's new, sweet digs were purchased jointly with Penny.
 
I have also heard from several sources about Tina (and her girlfriend Adrianne Ross, also a basketball player).
 
easttexastrash said:
That's a shame that someone is only considered a basketball player without any acknowledgement of who they are as a person.
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Geno won't even acknowledge them as women basketball players! Just basketball players. Geno has said before that he doesn't care who is gay or not, and that it's not really his business just like someone's religion.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Geno won't even acknowledge them as women basketball players! Just basketball players. Geno has said before that he doesn't care who is gay or not, and that it's not really his business just like someone's religion.
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I agree. I do not believe that s e x ual preference is an issue at UConn. His statement goes far in saying just that - they are basketball players, everything else is MYOB.
 
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RadyLady said:
I agree. I do not believe that s e x ual preference is an issue at UConn. His statement goes far in saying just that - they are basketball players, everything else is MYOB.
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Exactly, and Geno loves "his kids" more than anything no matter what. Just listen to how his former players talk about him, and then of course there's this:
 
Would someone please duplicate this under their name, apparently, ETT has me on ignore.

easttexastrash said:
This word does carry negative connotations. I am gay, as are a lot of my friends, and we DO NOT like the word. WE find the word offensive. Maybe we are not involved enough in the "community" to know that it no longer carries negative connotations.

If you are gay and the word does not offend you, that is great. Maybe to some it is not offensive, and good for them. But I can tell you that my friends and I do not want to be called queers.
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I suspect it may be true that you are not connected into the right sections of the LGBTQ communities to be aware of its regular usage today. Here is PFLAG's statement which acknowledges the popular usage among young people today and the consternation it causes among some older members of the LBGT community. LINK TO PFLAG I shared the site of Outright Vermont because it is just one example of current usage and I would never expect you to just take my word for something so personal to so many.
 
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easttexastrash said:
This word does carry negative connotations. I am gay, as are a lot of my friends, and we DO NOT like the word. WE find the word offensive. Maybe we are not involved enough in the "community" to know that it no longer carries negative connotations.

If you are gay and the word does not offend you, that is great. Maybe to some it is not offensive, and good for them. But I can tell you that my friends and I do not want to be called queers.
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I'm not going to tell you what you should or your friends should personally want to be called, but I do want to reiterate that it is the default term in a lot of circles.
 
easttexastrash said:
That's a shame that someone is only considered a basketball player without any acknowledgement of who they are as a person.
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Are you deliberately misunderstanding? Hoops Fan didn't say Geno doesn't care about his players just that the UConn players' personal lives don't affect how he interacts with them. Gay/straight, white/black, rich/poor, urban/suburban, etc etc - it doesn't make a difference how Geno treats them.
 
HuskyNan said:
Are you deliberately misunderstanding? Hoops Fan didn't say Geno doesn't care about his players just that the UConn players' personal lives don't affect how he interacts with them. Gay/straight, white/black, rich/poor, urban/suburban, etc etc - it doesn't make a difference how Geno treats them.
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I'm not ETT, but I cringed when I read Marlborough's post. I'm happy about the idea that we shouldn't coach players differently depending on their sexual orientation, but it reminded me of the old "I don't care whether you're white, black, purple, or blue with green polka dots" bit. The reality is that people are treated differently because of their sexuality (even by well intentioned people subconsciously) and the act of pretending that you treat everyone the same (when nobody really does) has the affect of perpetuating injustices against people who aren't straight.

Edited to add: Someone's sexual orientation is a component who they are, does affect their lived experiences, and to flippantly say that no one is gay at UConn because everyone is treated the same is disrespectful of that reality. Most straight people don't realize that being straight HAS had an affect on their lives, because they had the privilege of growing up in a society where their sexual orientation was the default.
 
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Icebear said:
Would someone please duplicate this under their name, apparently, ETT has me on ignore.





I suspect it may be true that you are not connected into the right sections of the LGBTQ communities to be aware of its regular usage today. Here is PFLAG's statement which acknowledges the popular usage among young people today and the consternation it causes among some older members of the LBGT community. LINK TO PFLAG I shared the site of Outright Vermont because it is just one example of current usage and I would never expect you to just take my word for something so personal to so many.
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I don't like it and never will, no matter which organizations have decided to make it acceptable. Maybe it IS a generational thing and the younger generation is willing to embrace the term. I am not. It has been used in a very negative way in the past and I will never think of this word as a "generaliztion" of all people who do not fall under the description of "sexual normality."

I do not identify with transgendered people, thus I do not wish to be under the "umbrella" with the transgended community. I prefer LBGT as each group is represnted as an idividual group, an each has unique characteristics. Call me a queer if you want, but to me it shows utter disprespect.
 
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ndmb said:
I'm not going to tell you what you should or your friends should personally want to be called, but I do want to reiterate that it is the default term in a lot of circles.
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And I disagree with that "default." I am a gay man...I do not identify myslef as "queer."

What I am trying to say is that the word "queer" is not accepted by all (probably most) and it is very risky for a straight person to use that word to identify anyone. Use it at your own risk of sounding like a biggot when speaking to a person who may be offended by the word.
 
Icebear said:
Would someone please duplicate this under their name, apparently, ETT has me on ignore.





I suspect it may be true that you are not connected into the right sections of the LGBTQ communities to be aware of its regular usage today. Here is PFLAG's statement which acknowledges the popular usage among young people today and the consternation it causes among some older members of the LBGT community. LINK TO PFLAG I shared the site of Outright Vermont because it is just one example of current usage and I would never expect you to just take my word for something so personal to so many.
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I suggest that PFLAG change its name to PQUEERS and see how well that goes over.
 
ndmb said:
I'm not ETT, but I cringed when I read Marlborough's post. I'm happy about the idea that we shouldn't coach players differently depending on their s e xual orientation, but it reminded me of the old "I don't care whether you're white, black, purple, or blue with green polka dots" bit. The reality is that people are treated differently because of their s e xuality (even by well intentioned people subconsciously) and the act of pretending that you treat everyone the same (when nobody really does) has the affect of perpetuating injustices against people who aren't straight.

Edited to add: Someone's s e xual orientation is a component who they are, does affect their lived experiences, and to flippantly say that no one is gay at UConn because everyone is treated the same is disrespectful of that reality. Most straight people don't realize that being straight HAS had an affect on their lives, because they had the privilege of growing up in a society where their s e xual orientation was the default.
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I personally am:

Female
White
Heterosexual
Married
A college graduate
A mom
A sister
An accountant
A reader of books
A band parent
A history buff
A gardener
A forum administrator
Treasurer of the Band Parents' Association.....

There must be a hundred labels I could stick on myself. Each has influenced my personal growth and how I treat others. I refuse to use one as My Identity because I am more than that and so is every other LGBTQ person in the world. If LGBTQ people want to be viewed as LGBTQ only or if they view their relationships with others through that single part of their identity, they are selling themselves short. People are more than just their sexuality.

If LGBTQ players in Geno's program want to be viewed as a gay woman that plays basketball, she's doomed to be disappointed because Geno - who may or may not know that the woman is gay - wants to talk about her failure to drive to the hoop consistently more than he wants to discuss a certain part of her identity. If you think that Geno should know about his players' sexuality, I couldn't disagree more strongly. It's none of his business. If players want to discuss it with him, I would guess he'd most likely listen but I don't think he should go out of his way to learn who his players are dating any more than he should be asking them what religion they are.
 
vowelguy said:
Well this disappoints me greatly. Makes me want to vomit actually.

Marrying a Vol?? Gross!
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Have to agree with you. There are just certain things you don't do. Having any kind of relationship with a LadyLike, gag me with a spoon.

:cool:
 
HuskyNan said:
I personally am:

Female
White
Heteros e xual
Married
A college graduate
A mom
A sister
An accountant
A reader of books
A band parent
A history buff
A gardener
A forum administrator
Treasurer of the Band Parents' Association.....

There must be a hundred labels I could stick on myself. Each has influenced my personal growth and how I treat others. I refuse to use one as My Identity because I am more than that and so is every other LGBTQ person in the world. If LGBTQ people want to be viewed as LGBTQ only or if they view their relationships with others through that single part of their identity, they are selling themselves short. People are more than just their s e xuality.

If LGBTQ players in Geno's program want to be viewed as a gay woman that plays basketball, she's doomed to be disappointed because Geno - who may or may not know that the woman is gay - wants to talk about her failure to drive to the hoop consistently more than he wants to discuss a certain part of her identity. If you think that Geno should know about his players' s e xuality, I couldn't disagree more strongly. It's none of his business. If players want to discuss it with him, I would guess he'd most likely listen but I don't think he should go out of his way to learn who his players are dating any more than he should be asking them what religion they are.
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You're setting up a straw man here. I don't think that ANYODY wants to be viewed solely through any singular part of their identity. I don't think that people are not more than just their sexuality. I do not think that Geno should know about each player's sexuality. I don't think that he should go out of his way to learn who his players are dating.
 
It is not uncommon for some gays to refer to straight people as "breeders." I do not like the use of that phrase as it smacks of negativity.
 
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meyers7 said:
Have to agree with you. There are just certain things you don't do. Having any kind of relationship with a LadyLike, gag me with a spoon.

:cool:
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Except that I have always liked Glory. Of all the Vols, she was a nose to the grindstone type of player who never took a play off. maybe if it were some other Vol.....
 
easttexastrash said:
I don't like it and never will, no matter which organizations have decided to make it acceptable. Maybe it IS a generational thing and the younger generation is willing to embrace the term. I am not. It has been used in a very negative way in the past and I will never think of this word as a "generaliztion" of all people who do not fall under the description of "s e xual normality."

I do not identify with transgendered people, thus I do not wish to be under the "umbrella" with the transgended community. I prefer LBGT as each group is represnted as an idividual group, an each has unique characteristics. Call me a queer if you want, but to me it shows utter disprespect.
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I didn't say you should accept it or use it. I was pointing simply that it has become a common usage among younger people within the LGBTQ community. It was only that reality that I was conveying. No matter how you or how many of one's personal friends deny it it is a term embraced by many within the LGBTQ community and is not considered as a negative by them. It as a big tent or umbrella term.
 
easttexastrash said:
I suggest that PFLAG change its name to PQUEERS and see how well that goes over.
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Like it or not PFLAG and the Human Rights Campaign have both been organizations that have been pioneers in the work to promote affirmation and acceptance and advocacy for LGBTQ persons and both use "queer."
 
Icebear said:
I didn't say you should accept it or use it. I was pointing simply that it has become a common usage among younger people within the LGBTQ community. It was only that reality that I was conveying. No matter how you or how many of one's personal friends deny it it is a term embraced by many within the LGBTQ community and is not considered as a negative by them. It as a big tent or umbrella term.
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It's also a term that doesn't reinforce gender roles, which (combined with the fact that you couldn't string together enough letters to encompass every gender or sexual identity) is why the name has risen to prominence in the younger generation.
 
It is interesting that there are words - descriptive nouns shunned in the past that are seeing a resurgence with today's youth, those who were not born at the time the words were seen as disparaging. "Queer" is one of them and the "N-word" is another. Bill Cosby has a great rant about that.

File this one under "Know your history"
 
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