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Major congrats to Britney & Glory Johnson (and a bit of surprise)

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Wow, I didn't know that either! I wonder how the LV fan base feels about this. Congratulations to BG and GJ!
 
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Wow, I didn't know that either! I wonder how the LV fan base feels about this. Congratulations to BG and GJ!

There was a thread on this topic on VolNation a couple of month's back. The rhetoric got so bad, the moderators had to remove the thread.
 

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There was a thread on this topic on VolNation a couple of month's back. The rhetoric got so bad, the moderators had to remove the thread.

There's a thread on The Summitt on this very topic. I'd almost buy a subscription to read it.

Since BG played for Baylor, plays for an Arizona team, and plays in China, I wonder what the reaction of all of those bases would be as well.
 

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One other possible source of reaction: Team USA. This will be good measuring stick for the remaining vestiges of homophobia around the USA and much of the world. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.
 

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She better not give GloJo and slack when they play. Would be REALLY interesting if they both made the Olympic team.
 

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It shouldn't be. It is offensive.

When I was young, I always remember it being considered a slur. Now, it's pretty well accepted by at least some of the LGBTQ community. The Q, after all, does stand for "queer" (also "questioning")

From Wikipedia: "Queer is an umbrella term for sexual and gender minorities that are not heterosexual, or gender-binary. Originally meaning strange or peculiar, queer developed a usage as a pejorative term for homosexual in the late 19th century. Beginning in the late 1980s, some political and social LGBT groups began to reappropriate the word to establish community and assert a political identity, with it becoming the preferred term to describe some academic disciplines and gaining use as a descriptor of non-heterosexual identities.[1]Queer may be used by those who reject traditional gender identities as a broader, less conformist, and deliberately ambiguous alternative to LGBT."
 

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When I was young, I always remember it being considered a slur. Now, it's pretty well accepted by at least some of the LGBTQ community. The Q, after all, does stand for "queer" (also "questioning")

From Wikipedia: "Queer is an umbrella term for s e xual and gender minorities that are not heteros e xual, or gender-binary. Originally meaning strange or peculiar, queer developed a usage as a pejorative term for homos e xual in the late 19th century. Beginning in the late 1980s, some political and social LGBT groups began to reappropriate the word to establish community and assert a political identity, with it becoming the preferred term to describe some academic disciplines and gaining use as a descriptor of non-heteros e xual identities.[1]Queer may be used by those who reject traditional gender identities as a broader, less conformist, and deliberately ambiguous alternative to LGBT."

Maybe you are also gay, but I can tell you that it is NOT considered OK by any gay person I know, and that includes me. If anyone ever called me queer I would correct them quite promptly.
 

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Maybe you are also gay, but I can tell you that it is NOT considered OK by any gay person I know, and that includes me. If anyone ever called me queer I would correct them quite promptly.

Dan Savage, the syndicated advice columnist who founded the It Gets Better Project with his husband, is a big proponent of the word as an alternative to the ever-growing LGBTQIA etc. etc. acronym. So my perspective might be skewed by listening to his podcast. Nonetheless, I certainly am aware that not everyone is ok with it.

Personally, the way the OP used it didn't strike me as inappropriate. FWIW, I am bi but not really bothered with labels. As long as you don't call me late for dinner.
 

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Maybe you are also gay, but I can tell you that it is NOT considered OK by any gay person I know, and that includes me. If anyone ever called me queer I would correct them quite promptly.

I am not gay, but it is considered OK by just about EVERY gay person I know (and I know many). The word "queer" is simply no longer pejorative, but a defiant co-opting of a term to signify a sense of community and belonging. I'm with Orangutan on this.
 

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I am not gay, but it is considered OK by just about EVERY gay person I know (and I know many). The word "queer" is simply no longer pejorative, but a defiant co-opting of a term to signify a sense of community and belonging. I'm with Orangutan on this.
My experience with this is the same as yours. I suppose there could be some regional differences here. The gays I know have most definitely and defiantly co-opted the word and in doing so, have detoxified it. I have a young woman in my life that has long ago adopted me as a surrogate father. She is gay and the word is a non-issue in her life.

I'm happy for BS & GJ... May they have long and happy lives together.

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So now that I think about it, The "Q", "F" & "D" words....for the rest of you folks. :)
 

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In my experience, calling gay people "queers" is the equivalent of cigarette." I would NEVER want to be called a queer. I find it incredibly offensive and derogatory. I don't care who is trying to make it acceptable, but to me it rings the same as "."

If you have friends who let you call them "queers" you have a unique set if friends.
 

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I've never been a fan of setting words aside for use by only those who have membership in a group. Fighting bias with bias won't get us to a better place.

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Absolutely agree.

I was surprised in a thread a while back to find out that, for some, the "Q' in LGBTQ stood for Queer; in my limited exposure, the folks who used it (and were in that community) said it was "questioning". At the time of the thread, I read how respectable members of the LGBTQ . . . community had indeed "taken the word back".

At the same time, it has a long history as a pejorative term to many, so I plan to continue avoiding using it. I also wouldn't use the other words mentioned above, but have to say I did, indeed, hear a gay person use the "d" word to describe one of his female friends.
 
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