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MAC and CUSA Say No To UConn Football- Independence Is Next

Fishy said:
Independence is the end of the football program.
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No, you're wrong. Independence would be a tough road, but what makes or breaks the football program in FBS is how well they play next two years. I suspect this upcoming year might be Edsalls last whether they play well or not. Bold move number one we now know, bold move number two next year.
 
Fishy said:
Independence is the end of the football program.
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Under the circumstance I think it’s better than to be branded with a fourth rate conference. Have Fox help engineer some P5 home and away games with their conferences - along with regional games(BC, Cuse, UMass and Rutgers) and then some home and away pay games and it could be a very attractive schedule.
A fair question, does UConn possess the competence and creativity to pull this off? True, not much evidence to support that.
 
Pudge said:
Here we are speculating

There’s no way a major institution with a NEW president wings it. MAC? CUSA?? There’s a long term analysis & a 448 page report somewhere. I don’t know what the scheme is ... but it’s not these tidbits

Major project by a new UConn President
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There has been an interest in doing this for some time, the kick in the pants came with the media contract. Suzy has an emotional reaction to that and DB did not like the numbers and then again she needed to repair her Presidential resume. Our basketball programs will be successful and she will point to this as a brilliant stroke when she interviews. The football part will be unspoken.
 
What if someone from ESPN told uconn that the Aac will be losing members in 2 years and uconn isnt one of them? Wouldn't it be wise to jump ship now . We dont know what the reasoning behind the decision was, its possible there were circumstances behind this.
 
OldGoldnBlue said:
Extremely foolish move by your president and big money donors. There is no reason to believe that UConn football couldn't be competitive in the AAC. You drop off was solely because of bad coaching hires, the correct hire could have you back competing at the top of the ACC in as little as 2-3 years. Just look at UAB being brought back from the dead for example.
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There is no reason to believe that UConn football couldn't be competitive in the AAC other than them never being competitive in the AAC and having the worst team in the country last year.
 
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Chief00 said:
Under the circumstance I think it’s better than to be branded with a fourth rate conference. Have Fox help engineer some P5 home and away games with their conferences - along with regional games(BC, Cuse, UMass and Rutgers) and then some home and away pay games and it could be a very attractive schedule.
A fair question, does UConn possess the competence and creativity to pull this off? True, not much evidence to support that.
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Why would Fox help UConn schedule? Do you really think they want to broadcast a game between one of their schools and some dinky independent? (Spoilers...they don't.)

UConn will play a bunch of contract massacres and former Yankee Conference teams early season, go through their mini-conference of UMass, Liberty and Army and then stuff a bunch of games with transitional programs or hurricane makeup games for the rest of the year.
 
Chief00 said:
Under the circumstance I think it’s better than to be branded with a fourth rate conference. Have Fox help engineer some P5 home and away games with their conferences - along with regional games(BC, Cuse, UMass and Rutgers) and then some home and away pay games and it could be a very attractive schedule.
A fair question, does UConn possess the competence and creativity to pull this off? True, not much evidence to support that.
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Fox could totally save this for us. Get us some decent games and televise them and if give us a chance. Of course the thing with visibility is it shows exactly how good, or how bad, you actually are. Football's performance will shape how this perceived. The narrative can be one of a power move or one of concession.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
What inspires this confidence?

I think they are winging it and now have no leverage.
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Shrug

Because I’ve been around major educational institutions. Because this is normal behavior at the beginning of an administration (do I have to cite examples). The timing isn’t random.
 
Fishy said:
Why would Fox help UConn schedule? Do you really think they want to broadcast a game between one of their schools and some dinky independent? (Spoilers...they don't.)

UConn will play a bunch of contract massacres and former Yankee Conference teams early season, go through their mini-conference of UMass, Liberty and Army and then stuff a bunch of games with transitional programs or hurricane makeup games for the rest of the year.
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They wanted us in the NBE and have $500 million invested in that. But, granted it’s unclear how far they will go to help.
 
I guarantee one thing for sure: the College Athletics landscape won’t look the same by 2026. Particularly Football

With some acknowledgement to a days worth of angst and bias, I believe UCF and USF (maybe packaged) would move. Houston too. Memphis & Cincinnati are more questionable

While I received a snappy bite yesterday ... the truth is Universities of some stature have far more expansive dreams. The ones you never thought of ... but they are State U. We are better having a core regional schedule and hope that develops into a conversation then into a conference. Yes. Dollars being spent on some campuses are eye opening. And they’re not settling for FCS status not TV experience nor Brand.
 
Fishy said:
Why would Fox help UConn schedule? Do you really think they want to broadcast a game between one of their schools and some dinky independent? (Spoilers...they don't.)

UConn will play a bunch of contract massacres and former Yankee Conference teams early season, go through their mini-conference of UMass, Liberty and Army and then stuff a bunch of games with transitional programs or hurricane makeup games for the rest of the year.
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Just like the Big East isn't happening.. Arrogant clown , message board tough guy .
 
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Pudge said:
I guarantee one thing for sure: the College Athletics landscape won’t look the same by 2026. Particularly Football
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UConn has made the decision not to be part of that landscape. You like to spin these lofty visions about Stony Brook and Albany and whoever else - but the landscape is moving away from them, not towards them.
 
Fishy said:
UConn has made the decision not to be part of that landscape. You like to spin these lofty visions about Stony Brook and Albany and whoever else - but the landscape is moving away from them, not towards them.
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What exactly did you get out of yesterday?
 
Fishy said:
UConn has made the decision not to be part of that landscape. You like to spin these lofty visions about Stony Brook and Albany and whoever else - but the landscape is moving away from them, not towards them.
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Maybe we can schedule some games at Marist soon?
 
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Fishy said:
They spend every waking moment hoping to get into the conference we just left.
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Thats because its a major step up for them, both in football and basketball.
 
Fishy said:
That we'd rather be Villanova because we lack the will to try to be Virginia.
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We lack the regional specific long term traditional conference. Like Virginia

We are a Robust State U like Virginia. But when the decision point came ... UVA partners chose to crawl with Louisville & even VaTech who they wanted no part of

Yes. I think we are gonna be happier going to MSG. Play Villanova. Play Georgetown. Play Providence.

But fish out of water (see what I did there) often creates conflict - we are one of a kind in that Big East.

We do need a Dave Gavitt.

I won’t bite on your crapping on me - I just see ambitions amongst like minded football playing schools. And the MAC & CUSA & CAA & SunBelt aren’t a good fit. I have no idea on the future of TV money
 
UMass’ 2019 schedule is not that much worse than UConn’s. Get 6 home games and really 1 it’s not that bad.
 
Fishy said:
That we'd rather be Villanova because we lack the will to try to be Virginia.
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I don’t mean this to pick a fight - but ‘we’ is tough from people that don’t live here.

The path to Virginia is billions in investments in the state - come carry the load with those of us paying 6+% and watching the future value of our homes head towards zero with a debt that can’t be met.
 
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Hoophound said:
These conferences probably don’t want schools that always have one foot out the door. However, I don’t necessarily believe these conferences don’t want UConn. That seems a little sketchy to me. If I was playing a MAC or CUSA schedule, I would definitely want UConn or another similar school.
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Maybe our old pal Skip Holtz will help us get into C-USA. Think about this: Bob Diaco returns to PAWS-ARF every other year. I think we could raise considerable money for the buy-in just to make that happen.
 
CL82 said:
I don’t think so, but this is exactly why the leak yesterday was a kick in the nuts. Having this come out drips and drabs makes us look incredibly bad as an institution. Have we announced it all at once it would’ve seemed more cohesive. If fox doesn’t use its influence to get us a decent independent schedule, we’re screwed. I have to believe, I just have to, that the administration isn’t so foolish as to make this leap without a safety net. We will know soon. But if this is the case I may jump on the whaler I hate Suzy Lax bandwagon.
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You better jump fast, CL. Except for the BB only fans, that bandwagon is filling up fast. It's careening down a steep cliff on its way toward Armageddon.
 
B12 said:
The MAC is d-2 level. Seriously most games have a few thousand fans. They average buying over 10k tickets per game just to be in FBS.

There is no upside for UConn or the MAC in that situation.

UConn can make some $ for a couple of years playing road p-5 games but beyond that the likely destination is FCS. Indy won't work for Umass, NMSU, Idaho, or UConn IMO. BYU is making it work, and Liberty is going to get a shot because they have the $.

I suspect Liberty brass is offering a nice check for AAC membership. Would they turn down a few million per team as an entry fee. I guess we shall see as I have no doubt they would pay the FB members to join.
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Do we have more than a few thousand fans?
 
UConnNick said:
You better jump fast, CL. Except for the BB only fans, that bandwagon is filling up fast. It's careening down a steep cliff on its way toward Armageddon.
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I'll tell you I wish I could help establish the narrative. We can come out looking good as the team that favored regionality over chasing money or as a school that tried to run with the big boys and failed. The presser will go a long way in determining which way it breaks.
 
Tigers69 said:
No, you're wrong. Independence would be a tough road, but what makes or breaks the football program in FBS is how well they play next two years. I suspect this upcoming year might be Edsalls last whether they play well or not. Bold move number one we now know, bold move number two next year.
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How the heck would we be able to hire any decent coach as an Independent? If that's the plan it sucks.

Actually, if they just blindsided Randy with this mess, I'd expect him to be leaving on his own way sooner than next year.
 
CL82 said:
I'll tell you I wish I could help establish the narrative. We can come out looking good as the team that favored regionality over chasing money or as a school that tried to run with the big boys and failed. The presser will go a long way in determining which way it breaks.
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Or there's another possibility. We come off looking like a spoiled little brat that threw a temper tantrum when the big, bad AAC ignored us and wouldn't let us keep all of our toys.

I think the quote from Herbst after the AAC media deal snub said it all. She specifically referenced the ESPN+ thing by saying UCONN fans are used to gathering at sports bars and other spots to watch Husky games all over the country.

Could this whole thing be the result of something described pretty aptly by a cliche?

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!
 
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