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Louisville Jeff Walz to Tennessee?

This doesn't seem like it would be true, but I'd welcome it. TN needs to be what it can be for the SEC to be more competitive.
 
PacoBlaze said:
I would hope that nobody in the TN AD office would contact a coach currently in the heat of the NC chase. I guess there are no tampering rules in the NCAA...
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Unless it's Geno congratulating a 12-year-old girl after the Little League World Series.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Why would Walz leave an established, elite program like Louisville, where he can become a legend over the next two decades, for a has-been program like Tennessee?
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Louisville Jeff Walz to Tennessee?

I don't hold so much glee for UT having a year that is not as successful as in the past. Say what you may about UT they were the model Uconn/Geno aspired to become. Pat, in her time, was generous (not at the end, Alzheimer?). Pat was among the toughest competitors, she is only second to Geno as to not wanting to loose, she took it seriously
The second part of that is: No program, or anything, anyone lasts forever. That day will come for all Universities, all programs, all people.
I have no issue with those that don't want to play UT again--that's fine.
I just don't want to be around when Western Tenn folks are posting with Glee--Why would he want to go to Uconn that's a has been program
 
How about we attend Holly's funeral first. This junior G man, hanging around a hotel, went fishing in the Louisvill Athletic Dept., yeah, right. He decided to bump his tweeter account (what I call it) . As Cam points out there is so much dumb about this little smoke trail and that's why you don't smell smoke.
 
Saw a rumor that John Wooden has agreed to come back from the afterlife and coach Tennessee, if Holly will retire for the good of basketball. The cries for a change have been enough to wake the dead.
 
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GDawg said:
Reporters would rather be first than be right. This ABSOLUTELY STINKS if you're a Louisville player and you have to read this crap somewhere, trying to get to the Final Four. And before you wanna dump on Louisville, cross UL out and put your favorite school's name/coach in their place.
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UConn had its name crossed out by Louisville for the ACC. karma is a bitch.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Why would Walz leave an established, elite program like Louisville, where he can become a legend over the next two decades, for a has-been program like Tennessee?
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What if you had friction with your boss at a school that is always one Bobby Petrino or Rick Pitino away from having its athletic department hammered?
 
Seems like a bit of a stretch. Waltz had built Louisville into a powerhouse. I don’t see why he leaves that for Tennessee. Although if it is true, he doesn’t have to offer every kid ranked in the top-50 each year...
 
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Boxerpups4me said:
This could be a ploy by walz to negotiate even more money on his contract, i cant imagine tennessee paying what it would take to get him here...kinda akin to the grumor rumors that plagued tennessee football
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I don't know what it is about Louisville coaches, but they've been floating their names for open.about to be open jobs to get a raise for years. Pitino, petrino and even Walz have been rumored to use this tactic.
 
Pure speculation, but could this just be the “truth”, edited for clicks?

Reporter: What if Tennessee backs up the cash truck for Walz?
Source: Then we’re prepared to lose him (i.e. we’re not going to pay him even more)

Reporter tweets: “Louisville is prepared to lose Walz to Tennessee”
Chaos ensues.

Maybe it is Walz and the AD “negotiating” anonymously.
 
Will Walz demand that they change the Tenn web site forums to Walz World from the Summit.
 
I think he has a higher ceiling at Tennessee, but let's wait till this tournament finishes. If he beats UConn in the Elite 8, there might be a slight argument for him staying at Louisville.

But I can't speak for him obviously. It would be more fun to have him in the SEC and our games vs Tennessee at the Hump could be epic for years to come, but I also don't wanna see Muffet wreck the ACC without her biggest competition around. I'll be happy with his choice either way.

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No way in Hades.

JW has a great program that he's put together over a decade. Tennessee is just one more southern school with a sinking basketball program. There is no attraction to him.

I think this is a hoax.
 
stick said:
I don't know what it is about Louisville coaches, but they've been floating their names for open.about to be open jobs to get a raise for years. Pitino, petrino and even Walz have been rumored to use this tactic.
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When Jurich was the AD, he basically held the taxpayers in Louisville hostage. They financed the new arena, and I'm not sure many folks there truly understand just how corrupt everything was in that deal. The taxpayers will be paying for that fiasco for many years to come.

When you have an AD willing to conduct business with a blank checkbook and no moral, ethical or legal retsraint, why not hold the guy up for ransom?
 
UConnNick said:
When Jurich was the AD, he basically held the taxpayers in Louisville hostage. They financed the new arena, and I'm not sure many folks there truly understand just how corrupt everything was in that deal. The taxpayers will be paying for that fiasco for many years to come.

When you have an AD willing to conduct business with a blank checkbook and no moral, ethical or legal retsraint, why not hold the guy up for ransom?
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Why is Louisville's AD so shady? From arena deals to the coaches they choose to run their highest profile programs.
 
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A moment of silence for the hopes of Coach Jumper..........................(he COULDDA been there tomorrow, but NO!)
 
PacoBlaze said:
Does anyone find it odd that he did not flat out deny the rumor????
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Not in the least. That sounds to me like ADspeak, or perhaps it should be called ADnonspeak, as a strong indicator that he's already outta there.
 
UConnNick said:
Not in the least. That sounds to me like ADspeak, or perhaps it should be called ADnonspeak, as a strong indicator that he's already outta there.
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Which I was sorta inferring by the use of the "???s".
Guess I should have been a bit more specific.
 
I'm starting to doubt that Holly is even going to be fired. The only plausible reason for a delay could be that their MBB team is still in the tournament and they don't want there to be a distraction. It's possible that the result might simply be that Holly needs to replace 1 or more assistants. I think we'd all agree that Holly's a great recruiter and that she really just needs a great X's and O's person to take care of strategy and a great player development person for practices. I can definitely see a scenario where she's back next year.
 
Lets just say Waltz does come to Tennessee..there really won't be any rebuilding to do other than him getting in the players that fit his system. He will have a team loaded with talent, even more so than what he will have next season at Louisville, provided that the current roster and the incoming class stay intact. He will inherit a program that laid the groundwork for WCBB and still has huge name recognition and a large fan base. I imagine he would recruit very well here...Basically the Tennessee job is akin to what the Alabama football job was when Nick Saban was hired.

Anyhow, I digress and will drift back down to reality and predict Tennessee will actually hire Kelly Jolly Harper, which would be a much, much cheaper option
 
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vowelguy said:
I will say ... if UConn & Lou meet on Sunday ... the Albany crowd should greet Jeff with a rousing rendition of "Rocky Top." :p
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That would be some gamesmanship right there and it doesn't cross the line, IMO.
 
Boxerpups4me said:
Lets just say Waltz does come to Tennessee..there really won't be any rebuilding to do other than him getting in the players that fit his system. He will have a team loaded with talent, even more so than what he will have next season at Louisville, provided that the current roster and the incoming class stay intact. He will inherit a program that laid the groundwork for WCBB and still has huge name recognition and a large fan base. I imagine he would recruit very well here...Basically the Tennessee job is akin to what the Alabama football job was when Nick Saban was hired.

Anyhow, I digress and will drift back down to reality and predict Tennessee will actually hire Kelly Jolly Harper, which would be a much, much cheaper option
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I agree with everything you wrote, except Tennessee doesn't need to go "cheap." I don't think handing out money is even an issue at Tennessee. On that note, Harper could go to Louisville. It's only one state over from Missouri, and if she's a good candidate for Tennessee, she certainly can be a good candidate for Louisville.


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cockhrnleghrn said:
I'm starting to doubt that Holly is even going to be fired. The only plausible reason for a delay could be that their MBB team is still in the tournament and they don't want there to be a distraction. It's possible that the result might simply be that Holly needs to replace 1 or more assistants. I think we'd all agree that Holly's a great recruiter and that she really just needs a great X's and O's person to take care of strategy and a great player development person for practices. I can definitely see a scenario where she's back next year.
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Hey, I think that is probably what is taking so long to announce it. I don't think AD Fulmer wants to look like he is diverting attention away from the great success the Men are having in the NCAA this season.

I think what really cost Holly this season was her inability to discipline the players off the court. There were huge chemistry issues between players and the coaching staff and I think it all just came to a head after the NCAA loss to UCLA. I think she is done and already put in her resignation and all that is left to do is announce the specifics and if she is taking a job in the AD office..

BTW, looking forward to watching that great South Carolina class come in next year and play..
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
I'm starting to doubt that Holly is even going to be fired. The only plausible reason for a delay could be that their MBB team is still in the tournament and they don't want there to be a distraction. It's possible that the result might simply be that Holly needs to replace 1 or more assistants. I think we'd all agree that Holly's a great recruiter and that she really just needs a great X's and O's person to take care of strategy and a great player development person for practices. I can definitely see a scenario where she's back next year.
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Not sure I'd agree to that. Good recruiter? Sure. As the head coach Holly would still be required to surprise and approve the X's and O's being drawn up- I see no ability in Holly to even to distinguish between an X and and an O. The program needs new leadership. Expertise at the top is required-That is not Holly.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Why is Louisville's AD so shady? From arena deals to the coaches they choose to run their highest profile programs.
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One word...money. It's a commuter school with lousy academics, but the people who live in Louisville are insanely loyal to the school, whether they have any direct connection to it or not. Over half the student body is from Jefferson County, living at home with mommy and daddy. It started out in the 1920's as a municipal college. The state took it over many years later, 1960's I think. That may explain the local, blindly loyal fanbase. The school can do no wrong.

For many years the school allowed the AD to be run totally autonomously from the rest of the school. Jurich is a Las Vegas gambling type. Nobody was watching, so he got away with bloody murder. He surrounded himself with yes men and like minded creeps. It's no wonder Petrino and Pitino worked for him. They were just as sleazy as he was, maybe even more so.

The school used the AD to raise its national profile, the same thing UCONN did when the men's and women's BB programs took off in
the early 1990's. UCONN parlayed its sudden national notoriety into finally getting the state legislature to pony up the $$$ to rebuild its horribly neglected campus, which has transformed the entire school. Louisville's problem is they did it by breaking every conceivable rule, both financially and otherwise, with no oversight. And it's still a lousy academic commuter school, although they're improving on that to some extent.

You do have to grudgingly admire Jurich for one thing. He elevated the school's profile and completely blindsided UCONN's passive administration to worm his way into the ACC. We were up against a riverboat gambling type with nothing to lose. We sat by and watched him get a fourth rate academic institution, with a history of NCAA cheating in a class by itself, into the ACC.
 
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Is this “insider info” like all the “insider info” about which college the top high school prospects are going to? If it is then I’ll take a pass on this whole topic.
 
SimpleDawg said:
I agree with everything you wrote, except Tennessee doesn't need to go "cheap." I don't think handing out money is even an issue at Tennessee. On that note, Harper could go to Louisville. It's only one state over from Missouri, and if she's a good candidate for Tennessee, she certainly can be a good candidate for Louisville.


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Just to add to that..in 2009 tennessee paid pat summit 1.4 mil, which in todays dollars is nearly 1.7 mil. So, i guess maybe it is possible tennessee would be willing to be big bucks for a big name coach
 
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Boxerpups4me said:
This could be a ploy by walz to negotiate even more money on his contract, i cant imagine tennessee paying what it would take to get him here...kinda akin to the grumor rumors that plagued tennessee football
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Tennessee has a lot of money.
 
Tennessee has a lot of money BUT, they are currently paying Butch Jones $200,000 per month ($2.4 Million per year) until August 2021.

They will have to pay off Holly, then pay the new coach's salary.

They have several billionaire boosters, but that is a lot of money.

Why would Walz leave Louisville where he is king?

At Tennessee, after a couple of years, if he doesn't make the final four at a minimum, the fans will be ready to run him out of town, and they are an especially Vicious fan base. Ultimately, his record at Tennessee will always be compared to Pat Summit's record.
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
A few cautionary notes...

--- Gene Henley is the Tennessee athletics beat writer for the Times Free Press. This is very different than an ESPN reporter or a Louisville Courier Journal reporter presenting this news/scoop.

-- Jeff Walz is under contract through 2024-2025, per the contract extension he signed after the 2017-2018 season. The contract extension he signed included an extension of the original deal by three years, plus a $50,000 raise.

--- Walz's current contract -- before the extension -- runs through 2022 and pays him $1.15 million annually.

--- Walz's contract with Louisville has a buyout provision, which was part of last year's contract negotiations.

Irrespective of whether Walz takes the job or whether Gene Henley is accurate, these are a few points to consider, at this point in time.
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Cam, thanks! One addition and one question. I believe that Jeff's contract also includes incentives for performance that run to $200K per year or more. Do you know the terms of the buyout provision?
 
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vowelguy said:
1 tweet from an unclear source is smoke?
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Not sure what is the truth, but am aware of several cases at other schools where a "source" associated with a competitor started the "rumor" to disrupt one or both school's programs.
 
HopJim said:
Not sure what is the truth, but am aware of several cases at other schools where a "source" associated with a competitor started the "rumor" to disrupt one or both school's programs.
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How much more can the Vol Nation be disrupted?? Hmm? I think this could be a plus for Jeff--non-contender for Holly. Her world has been a rolly Coaster for a few years. I too don't know the truth, only a select few do, but rumors are rumors.
 
Alibi Ike said:
Tennessee has a lot of money BUT, they are currently paying Butch Jones $200,000 per month ($2.4 Million per year) until August 2021.

They will have to pay off Holly, then pay the new coach's salary.

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Holly's buyout is not much on 2 years left on a contract for $690k/yr. It's not cost prohibitive like Geno's.
 
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