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UConnDan97

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That would be short-sighted. A nearby rival would build local interest. Just like St John's makes money from UConn games in MSG, BC would make money from games with UConn.

They were probably happy that they were able to replace UMass with UConn next year. The fact that they seek UConn games on their schedule suggests they might not oppose our entry to the ACC. I think they know the ACC is in trouble and anything that strengthens it will help preserve the goose that's been laying golden eggs for them.
It wouldn't be any different than their shortsightedness in 2011 when they fought to keep us out. I hope you're right that perhaps new leadership there could lead to a different outcome, but I won't hold my breath...
 
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we all should be angry that the ACC didn't invite uconn in the past. but i don't think it will crumble and if they invite uconn soon, it would strengthen the conference. uconn in the acc makes sense.
For years I had pined to join the ACC. Our Olympic sports would have benefitted, particularly baseball, field hockey, men’s and women’s soccer and women’s lacrosse. Travel would be easier than that to the B1G.

But I now think the ACC is going to be in such disarray that the B1G is our “best” landing zone. Sure, if only the ACC comes calling, it beats football independence. But the B1G is where we ultimately want to be.

Although, as a longtime season ticketholder, I’d sure miss Hockey East.
 
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For years I had pined to join the ACC. Our Olympic sports would have benefitted, particularly baseball, field hockey, men’s and women’s soccer and women’s lacrosse. Travel would be easier than that to the B1G.

But I now think the ACC is going to be in such disarray that the B1G is our “best” landing zone. Sure, if only the ACC comes calling, it beats football independence. But the B1G is where we ultimately want to be.

Although, as a longtime season ticketholder, I’d sure miss Hockey East.
Considering the B1G media/conference payouts are like double the ACC at this point, that's a no brainer - it's just not going to happen
 
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It wouldn't be any different than their shortsightedness in 2011 when they fought to keep us out. I hope you're right that perhaps new leadership there could lead to a different outcome, but I won't hold my breath...

They avoided scheduling us then, they seek to schedule us now. The ACC has diminished in value and UConn has grown in value, just by maintaining its football place in spite of adversity while actually enhancing its basketball value.
 

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You think UConn has a bigger college presence than a lot of BIG colleges like Michigan, OSU, and Penn State in NYC?
Lol, your troll act is so laughable because you're stunningly uninformed and when you get called on it, you move the goal posts.

So first, you said that Connecticut had no presence in the NYCDMA. Apparently you are not aware that about a third of Connecticut's population is a part of the NYCDMA.

Apparently, you've never been to a Connecticut game at MSG either. If you had you would be acutely aware of how big a Connecticut presence there is at our games there.

I really have to laugh about how pitiful someone's life must be that they go on a teams fan site to troll. It's pretty sad, but at least if you're going to do it, maybe spend like five minutes on Google or something and actually learn something about us.
 
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Lol, your troll act is so laughable because you're stunningly uninformed and when you get called on it, you move the goal posts.

So first, you said that Connecticut had no presence in the NYCDMA. Apparently you are not aware that about a third of Connecticut's population is a part of the NYCDMA.

Apparently, you've never been to a Connecticut game at MSG either. If you had you would be acutely aware of how big a Connecticut presence there is at our games there.

I really have to laugh about how pitiful someone's life must be that they go on a teams fan site to troll. It's pretty sad, but at least if you're going to do it, maybe spend like five minutes on Google or something and actually learn something about us.
I was always talking about New York City. Not NY area. I grew up in CT then lived for 15 years in NYC from 1990 through 2004. NYC like any other major city like LA, San Francisco, Chicago, and even Miami are Pro sport cities. Are there like 200k UConn fans in a city of 8 million (Dan97 estimate). Sure that seems possible. You mention MSG. It holds 20,000 for a basketball game. In a city of 8 million that is a pretty small percent. But that is not a significant presence which you and others keep stating. Not going to respond to another post on this subject since it appears the meaning of significant presence has a different meaning to me.
 
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I was always talking about New York City. Not NY area. I grew up in CT then lived for 15 years in NYC from 1990 through 2004. NYC like any other major city like LA, San Francisco, Chicago, and even Miami are Pro sport cities. Are there like 200k UConn fans in a city of 8 million (Dan97 estimate). Sure that seems possible. You mention MSG. It holds 20,000 for a basketball game. In a city of 8 million that is a pretty small percent. But that is not a significant presence which you and others keep stating. Not going to respond to another post on this subject since it appears the meaning of significant presence has a different meaning to me.
I still think in metro NYC UConn and perhaps Rutgers can draw a reasonable crowd. Our friends at Syracuse haven't done as well from what I have seen.
 
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I still think in metro NYC UConn and perhaps Rutgers can draw a reasonable crowd. Our friends at Syracuse haven't done as well from what I have seen.
I would say UConn would draw a much bigger crowd than Rutgers given how good the men and women basketball teams have been. Rutgers is not even followed extensively in NJ.
 

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I was always talking about New York City. Not NY area. I grew up in CT then lived for 15 years in NYC from 1990 through 2004. NYC like any other major city like LA, San Francisco, Chicago, and even Miami are Pro sport cities. Are there like 200k UConn fans in a city of 8 million (Dan97 estimate). Sure that seems possible. You mention MSG. It holds 20,000 for a basketball game. In a city of 8 million that is a pretty small percent. But that is not a significant presence which you and others keep stating. Not going to respond to another post on this subject since it appears the meaning of significant presence has a different meaning to me.
I literally linked the NYT article supporting my claim of the UConn fan number inside NYC. Now, where's your data arguing against it?

This will be the last time I feed the troll...
 
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A staggering 7 teams are not bowl eligible, yet UConn football was so bad they couldn't be brought in as 17. Now they are curb stomping UNC. Particularly funny that Utah and Okie State suck after voting no on UConn. And now the SEC dominates basketball. Too funny.
Memo to Yormark: UConn has enjoyed a rare above-average year in football, has won a bowl game, and has now concluded that it's too good for the B12. Please look elsewhere for expansion candidates.
 
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It's like trying to convince someone that the earth isn't flat. You're just going to get frustrated. He doesn't even comprehend that having around 200,000 UConn fans within New York's city limits is extremely significant.

If those same 200,000 people made their own city in Connecticut, it would be it the most populated city in our state...
Exactly. 200.000 sets of eyeballs is a lot of eyeballs. It's like he thinks you need 20% or something to have a "significant" percentage. You don't. 200K is significant. It's probably more than the Connecticut fanbase. How many people actually care about any team?
 
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The problem for us is that we beat the life out of UNC right in BC's back yard and out-drew BC's fan base in the same building (year over year) by a wide margin. This only reinforces BCs fear and their stance that they can't let us in. They know it would be the death of their programs...
Correct, which is why the Big 12 should invite us. They get us and destroy the Boston Mark for the ACC - this would be good for them with less media competition in these markets!
 
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With all due respect to Idaho, Connecticut is almost twice the population. Being the "fastest growing" has to be put in context...
When we're talking about the Big 12 there doesn't need to be any context. Like half of the states where Big 12 schools are located have low populations so being one of the fastest growing states in the country makes a big difference for a school like Boise when it comes to gaining potential membership.
 

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You keep celebrating every bit of bad news for non-P2 conferences. Two things you need to remember:

1) college sports could hit a tipping point of shrinking market size where enough schools are cut out that no one, including P2 fans, care about it.

2) if you are right, and fans consolidate to fans of just 2 conferences, it won’t be long before the P2 becomes the P1. Who do you think survives? The SEC or Big 10?
 

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I was always talking about New York City. Not NY area. I grew up in CT then lived for 15 years in NYC from 1990 through 2004. NYC like any other major city like LA, San Francisco, Chicago, and even Miami are Pro sport cities. Are there like 200k UConn fans in a city of 8 million (Dan97 estimate). Sure that seems possible. You mention MSG. It holds 20,000 for a basketball game. In a city of 8 million that is a pretty small percent. But that is not a significant presence which you and others keep stating. Not going to respond to another post on this subject since it appears the meaning of significant presence has a different meaning to me.
So now your argument is Connecticut fans pack MSG, they are the only Connecticut fans in the New York area? Seriously? Lol, did this sound good in your head before you actually typed it out? Are you aware that when Connecticut rejoined the big east the cost of tickets on the aftermarket shot up precipitously? Are you aware that St. John's and Seton Hall jack up the prices of the Connecticut game annually. Often it's cheaper to buy season tickets than just get the Connecticut game. Do you understand the market forces that are necessary to have that kind of impact on pricing?

Seriously, if you're going to try to troll, just spend five minutes on Google and try to learn something about us.
 
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No I was not wrong. People on the site were acting like UConn had significant presence in NYC. Having 200K out of 8 million is not significant percent of the population.
Not all 8 million are sports fans... Until the denominator is known you are both in a gray area of partial speculation. But bickering is a good look, so keep at it.
 

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That would be short-sighted. A nearby rival would build local interest. Just like St John's makes money from UConn games in MSG, BC would make money from games with UConn.

They were probably happy that they were able to replace UMass with UConn next year. The fact that they seek UConn games on their schedule suggests they might not oppose our entry to the ACC. I think they know the ACC is in trouble and anything that strengthens it will help preserve the goose that's been laying golden eggs for them.
The sense I get from BC alumni is that now that DeFilippo is gone, they recognize the error. In trying to be the only game in town, they wound up reducing interest in the programs. UConn in the ACC would boost BC and Syracuse both. This should have been obvious, even then (See Auburn and Alabama, Texas and A&M. USC and UCLA etc.), but Gene wanted to put an end UConn FBS aspirations. Local rivals increase overall interest in the sport and drive greater passion.
 

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You keep celebrating every bit of bad news for non-P2 conferences. Two things you need to remember:

1) college sports could hit a tipping point of shrinking market size where enough schools are cut out that no one, including P2 fans, care about it.

2) if you are right, and fans consolidate to fans of just 2 conferences, it won’t be long before the P2 becomes the P1. Who do you think survives? The SEC or Big 10?
Nelson,

As I'm very confident that you've already realized, Rufus is a self appointed shill for the B1G and has so little meaning in his life that he feels compelled to come to a message board for a school he has no connection to for the sole purpose of informing us about the stature of the B1G. What makes this even sadder is that he most likely is a fan of one of the also rans in the conference, who in due time will be receiving scraps in terms of conference revenues (as an alternative to receiving the boot).
 

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