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His release/set shot from 3PT looks similar to CV.

And one of the highlights above showed a J Lamb floater in the lane.
 
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Funny he plays low to the ground, not as low as Josh but similar minus explosiveness but his quickness is really good as is his handle. He’s 6’6 pushing it but plays big. See some good vision too would like to know more about his defense.
 
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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.
 
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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.

I take that with the context of him being a freshman and being asked to essentially handle all of the scoring load. My guess is not being the focal point of the offense will help those efficiency numbers quite a bit.
 
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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.

I wouldn't put that on a true freshman. I'm also not convinced Young is a high-major coach. Very flash-in-the-pan hire IMO.
 
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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.

Good post and the only guess I would have is the immediate move to get out of Dodge. Maybe something wasn't right and while it is a bit concerning they are kids and when unhappy things tend to spiral the wrong way. Kid can play, no doubter if interest is shared by he and DH. Could be a special player just watching the highlights. Love the fact he can make his FTs because he will get to the line.
 
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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.

I just look at Kenpom for the end of the year to see if it was competition level...

First 10: Clemson 72, Coppin st 327, USC Upstate 325, Lehigh 304, Delaware St. 346, Michigan State 7, Dayton 4, BYU 13 , Duke 5, Chattannooga 147. Average = 155

Next 12: Gardner Webb 218 , Virginia MI 257, UME 349, Virginia 42, Cuse 51, NC State 50, Wake 103, Cuse 51, UNC 84, BC 179, Miami 104, FSU 15, Average = 125

Last 10: Georgia Tech 64, BC 179, Pitt 111 , Miami 104, Duke 5, UVA 42 , Louisville 9 , Clemson 72 , Notre Dame 57, UNC 84, Average = 73

So yeah, the competition level clearly went up. But at the same time, he actually shot pretty well versus the early high-level competition: 5/12 (4/6) vs MSU, 5/13 (3/6) vs Dayton, 3/7 (0/2) vs Duke. That's not bad versus the first 3 legit opponents. That's 41% from the floor and 50% from deep. Maybe the hot shooting start wasn't sustainable... or teams got the scout and figured out his weaknesses at the rim.

The middle groups had some decent teams... Virginia, NC State, and of course FSU. But no one that would end up ranked in the end.

And in the last couple months of the season or whatever it was... vs Duke 3/10 (1/5), Louisville 2/9 (0/4). Ugly.

Clearly played his best ball at the beginning of the season. But it didn't *seem* to be associated with the lower-ranked teams exclusively. Kid played 4 top 20 teams in a row and hammered them all at a high %. That was legit basketball versus really, really good teams.

My guess would be he got scouted well and his teammates couldn't do much to help--Virginia Tech sucked this year, ended up ranked 105. If teams figured out he can't drive right or finish well at the rim, they could sell out on the 3-ball and allow gross long 2s that he seemed to settle for so much in highlights. He also was just required as the only/best option on the team to take bad, bailout shots. The Tech offense is terrible. TERRIBLE. In the highlights (the highlights!!) It looks like they have 2-3 guys in the paint most of the time--totally disorganized. There's also just the mental component involved too that none of us could ever predict.
 

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Something changed negatively in a big way as the season wore on when you look at his stats. Could it be level of competition was higher? "The freshman wall"? Possibly it was some other reason known only to Chief, but the decline really stands out. Thoughts?

The four lines below break out his season into three groups plus the whole year as follows: the first 10 games, the middle 12 games and the last 10 games.

First 10 games: 2 Pt%-45.8, 3 Pt%-45.2 and FT%-78.8.
Next 12 games: 2 Pt%-35.8, 3 Pt%-30.2 and FT%-80.0
Last 10 games: 2 Pt%-27.5, 3 Pt%-19.3 and FT%-74.2.

Full Season: 2 Pt%-37.0, 3 Pt%-31.6 and FT%-78.0.

Solid at the line all year and got off to a great start overall in those first 10 games.

First game of the year, on the road at Clemson (30 points on 12/23 on 2's, 4/8 on 3's and 5 rebounds) was one of nine games in double figures out of the first ten games. The fans probably thought they had a first team All-American.

However, during his awful last ten games, the ninth to last game, home to BC (29 points on 12/22 on 2's, 2/7 on 3's and 11 rebounds), was one of only five in double figures and the other four were the result of volume shooting. Here's his 2 Pt shooting numbers for the other nine games: 4/14, 3/15, 4/21, 1/8, 3/10, 2/9, 2/9, 3/12 and 4/11.
Thanks for the analysis. Watchdog very appropriate Boneyard name.
 

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The VT fan base seems to hate this kid. Calling him a ball hog, inefficient, saying he cared about himself and not the team. Some of this is just bitter fans upset that a player is leaving but there aren’t too many of them saying this is a big loss. Idk guys...
 
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The VT fan base seems to hate this kid. Calling him a ball hog, inefficient, saying he cared about himself and not the team. Some of this is just bitter fans upset that a player is leaving but there aren’t too many of them saying this is a big loss. Idk guys...
I've seen the complete opposite. I haven't exactly been searching it out but every single tweet I've seen was the exact opposite of what you're claiming
 
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This guy's name seemed like an anagram of something else, so I went through some anagrams to see if he's hiding his real name.

Lonely Slander
Sonny Dell Earl
Randy Sell Noel
Sandy Ell Loner
Are Dells Nylon
Loyal Nerd Lens
Neon Rally Sled

Which could it be...
 
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The VT fan base seems to hate this kid. Calling him a ball hog, inefficient, saying he cared about himself and not the team. Some of this is just bitter fans upset that a player is leaving but there aren’t too many of them saying this is a big loss. Idk guys...

Hurley knows what he’s doing. If that’s not obvious after his first 2 years then idk what to say. Hurley knows we need to continue bringing in talent that goes with his culture. I doubt he’d be interested in an inefficient ball hog that only cares about himself.
 

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Hurley knows what he’s doing. If that’s not obvious after his first 2 years then idk what to say. Hurley knows we need to continue bringing in talent that goes with his culture. I doubt he’d be interested in an inefficient ball hog that only cares about himself.
Impossible to argue there is no risk, but it's a risk seemingly every P5 school is willing to take. I'm sure Dan will make his expectations clear.
 
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Wow. Sucks for Virginia Tech and Mike Young after a surprisingly solid year and a good recruiting class coming in.

Yes please. Nolley reminds me a lot of Chris Clarke, a strong framed player who can play and defend literally any position in a pinch. He's the type of guy I love, great college player with no real obvious NBA projection.

nothing alike. Nolley wants to shoot. Not a great defender. Clarke is a do all the little thing guy.

Nolley is a 3/4 who I guess Wants to be a 2/3.
 
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I like how you say you think without any inside info. and then if it happens you get to say you said it.
Never said I have inside jnfo. You making that assumption has little to do with me. The insiders on this board are well identified
 
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Wow. Sucks for Virginia Tech and Mike Young after a surprisingly solid year and a good recruiting class coming in.

Yes please. Nolley reminds me a lot of Chris Clarke, a strong framed player who can play and defend literally any position in a pinch. He's the type of guy I love, great college player with no real obvious NBA projection.
He’s not really like Chris Clarke, not at all.
 

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Did I see people say he shoots like Vital and Polley?

 
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a big shooter and PF all in one. he checks both boxes on hurley's wish list. If there's another scholly available what would he do with it? best available? russell? etienne?

hopefully nolley can play stretch 4 in 2020 and then shift down to SF in 2021 once akok is back. that would mean AJ has to play SG in 2021 but that works since bouk will probably be gone by then
 
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Nolley is actually very similar to Bouknight when it comes to attacking to score, once they get the ball in their hands they are thinking what’s the most efficient/easiest way to get this ball into the hoop.

He has one of the best pull-up jumpers as well as mid-range jumpers in the entire nation. He’s not gonna give you much when it comes to passing, defense, & creating for others, but is ultimately a true scorer. He’s someone I can see who can average 20.0 ppg for the rest of his college career.

Having him & Bouknight on the wings would be fun to watch, especially offensively!

Go get him Hurley!
 

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Nolley is actually very similar to Bouknight when it comes to attacking to score, once they get the ball in their hands they are thinking what’s the most efficient/easiest way to get this ball into the hoop.

He has one of the best pull-up jumpers as well as mid-range jumpers in the entire nation. He’s not gonna give you much when it comes to passing, defense, & creating for others, but is ultimately a true scorer. He’s someone I can see who can average 20.0 ppg for the rest of his college career.

Having him & Bouknight on the wings would be fun to watch, especially offensively!

Go get him Hurley!
Lotta hyperbole here.
 
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It wasn't because of competition. He was killing it early in the year against good teams. I watched him play a few games early, he's really good.
He’s a jump shooter playing in first collegiate season. What happens with jump shooters when the get tired, they don’t shoot as well.

I wouldn’t put much thought into why his numbers dip- this kid can play & it would be a over the top get & would put us in a definite line to make the NCAA tournament & possible making even a Sweet 16.
 
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