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Kim English OUT as Providence’s HC

gsmooth said:
It really isn't a talent issue. Providence has some dudes on that team. The issue is they lacked cohesion. Kim English had a vision of what he wanted and I could see what he was trying to do, but his strategy was like submitting a rough copy of a research paper when the final draft is what was due. He needed to refine the identity he was trying to build and the strategy he was implementing.

After the season I am really curious where these players end up. I would like Jamier Jones in a UConn uniform. I think Hurley and staff can polish his basketball game with more discipline but allow him to utilize his explosive athleticism. Jamier stated his favorite player to watch to learn from is Stephon Castle.
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What was his vision? What was the identity he was trying to build and the strategy he was implementing?
 
superjohn said:
What was his vision? What was the identity he was trying to build and the strategy he was implementing?
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From what I have seen it coincides with what I was reading on Friar Talk from last year, or maybe at the end of 2024. Some well connected Friar fans were saying he was trying to build a fast paced fast break team which would create more total shots and possessions in a game. English was trying to have some 1-on-1 freelance offense with some designed concepts off a few on ball screens and PnRs where shots would be taken within 15 seconds of the shot clock. Basically he was trying to do what Nate Oats does at Alabama. The problem was he needed to harness that strategy and put in guardrails and since he didn't do that, we all see the mess PC became this year. One example, of many from this year, is Vaaks taking many ill advised shots. Vaaks is a skilled and talented player, but he needed guardrails and not a blank check version of a green light to shooting.

I attended both UConn games against PC so I could see certain things that TV viewers could not and vice-versa. I was watching English's mannerisms and gesticulations while he delivered his instructions he shouted even when the ball was at the other end of the court. I especially had really good view of this in the first game at the AMP as I was seated in the first row above the tunnel where the PC players and entered and exited which was behind PC's bench. He is constantly telling his players to speed dribble and push the ball off rebounds and even in the half court when they are passing the ball around he is imploring them to put their heads down and dribble drive immediately even if at times it meant not giving enough time for a ball screen or the other offensive players to get to the correct spots on the floor.
 
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Horatio said:
PILLAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know Danny has a policy of not poaching players from conference rivals but when English is gone and PC doesn’t have a coach he’s not poaching, as the PC players will be leaving anyway due to their not knowing who the replacement will be.
 
FearThePups said:
I know Danny has a policy of not poaching players from conference rivals but when English is gone and PC doesn’t have a coach he’s not poaching, as the PC players will be leaving anyway due to their not knowing who the replacement will be.
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I don’t want a single player from that suckhole program. Bunch of losers. I’m good with Hurley continuing to use the portal the way he has been.
 
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mbt0512 said:
My buddy who is a diehard PROV guy said to keep an eye on Joey Gallo (Merrimack coach—not to be confused with the MLB player or deceased mobster).. seems like a longshot to me but stranger things have happened.
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Maybe different guy w/Gallo's initials...

Too soon for Jared Grasso to reboot in Rhode Island?
 
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MJKI said:
There is no player in college sports I would rather have less than Vaaks. Maybe the most selfish player I have watched in years. Jump over to the PC board to see what they think about him. No D, no facilitating, hunting shots and shoot at a replacement level percentage. Hardest of passes of all time for me, and I cannot imagine Danny wanting him on the team
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He is the type of player that needs to learn what a good shot is and to commit on defense. He has all the tools on offense to be a fantastic player, he just takes a ton of contested/bad shots. The ball movement on PC was pretty poor overall.

gsmooth said:
It really isn't a talent issue. Providence has some dudes on that team. The issue is they lacked cohesion. Kim English had a vision of what he wanted and I could see what he was trying to do, but his strategy was like submitting a rough copy of a research paper when the final draft is what was due. He needed to refine the identity he was trying to build and the strategy he was implementing.

After the season I am really curious where these players end up. I would like Jamier Jones in a UConn uniform. I think Hurley and staff can polish his basketball game with more discipline but allow him to utilize his explosive athleticism. Jamier stated his favorite player to watch to learn from is Stephon Castle.
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Their biggest problem was/is defense. They didn't/don't have a coherent game plan there. They are too athletic to be so bad at defense. UConn may have some defensive issues but it does have a game plan and defensive philosophy.
 
Waquoit said:
I thought he'd be more successful by now at Georgetown. Now it looks like it isn't going to happen.
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Has 2 potential difference makers coming in next year. If he gets some talent in portal hopefully they become relevant again
 
PC should go after Jim Larranaga. I know he's 76 but he would be there just to change the culture, no out of this world expectations. An alum it's a job he may think about.
 
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John said:
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it's a mid-major program riding the coat tails of a Final Four appearance when Reagan was president.
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Horatio said:
I’ve been thinking about two of them for weeks now, but I didn’t want to get the threads closed.
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Potential fits aside, hasn’t Hurley made it pretty clear he’s not for going after players from other Big East rosters?
 
FearThePups said:
I know Danny has a policy of not poaching players from conference rivals but when English is gone and PC doesn’t have a coach he’s not poaching, as the PC players will be leaving anyway due to their not knowing who the replacement will be.
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Fair point. I just posted about that Hurley policy but this particular scenario may be an exception to the rule.
 
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